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FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
January 20 2014 18:48 GMT
#2021
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
January 20 2014 18:55 GMT
#2022
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.

The editor is awesome, the problem is that the arcade system was absolutely broken upon release and is still really bad, and they have not been able to fix it.
FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
January 20 2014 18:56 GMT
#2023
On January 21 2014 03:55 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.

The editor is awesome, the problem is that the arcade system was absolutely broken upon release and is still really bad, and they have not been able to fix it.


true, we'll have to wait starcraft 3 for a decent arcade system :D
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
January 20 2014 18:58 GMT
#2024
The sc2 graphics with the bw units is something to get use to... my body was not ready for this.
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17545 Posts
January 20 2014 18:59 GMT
#2025
don't be surprised if Blizzard decides its not worth the "investment" to "re-invent the wheel" for the 6th time.

i wouldn't be shocked at all if Blizzard decides to create WC4 with the MOD Kit for SC2.
They're already creating HOTS with it.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
January 20 2014 19:03 GMT
#2026
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.
aka Kalevi
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:09:13
January 20 2014 19:04 GMT
#2027
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.

That's just like, your opinion, man

Edit: There are some that do find this game "great"
Edit2: Just saying that large sweeping statements, while having merit, do not have that much merit.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
January 20 2014 19:04 GMT
#2028
On January 21 2014 03:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
don't be surprised if Blizzard decides its not worth the "investment" to "re-invent the wheel" for the 6th time.

i wouldn't be shocked at all if Blizzard decides to create WC4 with the MOD Kit for SC2.
They're already creating HOTS with it.


Is unlikely that they will develop WC4 on a dated engine, but prepare yourself to play the old warcraft campaigns on the sc2 engine the next Blizzconn. WoW is turning 10, they're making the units for the SC2's engine.. pretty obvious!
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:09:17
January 20 2014 19:05 GMT
#2029
On January 21 2014 04:04 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.

That's just like, your opinion, man


Not only mine. Alot of people think there is somethink wrong with the design of sc2.

EDIT: I know there are still a lot of people who think the game is great, but the number of actual sc2 ladderplayers is decreasing.
aka Kalevi
IeZaeL
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy991 Posts
January 20 2014 19:07 GMT
#2030
On January 21 2014 04:04 FrozenProbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
don't be surprised if Blizzard decides its not worth the "investment" to "re-invent the wheel" for the 6th time.

i wouldn't be shocked at all if Blizzard decides to create WC4 with the MOD Kit for SC2.
They're already creating HOTS with it.


Is unlikely that they will develop WC4 on a dated engine, but prepare yourself to play the old warcraft campaigns on the sc2 engine the next Blizzconn. WoW is turning 10, they're making the units for the SC2's engine.. pretty obvious!

That would be awesome.
Author of Coda and Eastwatch.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 20 2014 19:08 GMT
#2031
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.

I know. If I don't yell at and bash my teammates in dota 2, they will never get better at the game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:10:38
January 20 2014 19:09 GMT
#2032
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.


rotfl, and you think that a gigantic videogame company cares about your bashing? lol the only thing they cares about is money, if lotv won't sell a lot of copies maybe they will change something, but everyone knows that lotv will be a success, milions of copies in the first week.. and you know why? Because a lot of people does not care a shit about multiplayer, they want to see how the story ends (or maybe not, after 15 years).

Stop being so optimistic, you don't count a shit for Blizzard. And you like everyone else in this forum will buy LotV, no matter what.. even if they develop even more retarded units.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
January 20 2014 19:11 GMT
#2033
Guys if you remove smart cast on irradiate then vessels are even better at killing mutas since all the irradiates will stack instantly -_-. Doesn't do jack.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:17:17
January 20 2014 19:12 GMT
#2034
On January 21 2014 04:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.

I know. If I don't yell at and bash my teammates in dota 2, they will never get better at the game.


Are you implying that saying nothing will solve the issues people have with the game? If there wouldnt have been people who bashed Blizzard for the lack of chat channels and this REAL ID stuff we would still have to ask for everyones e-mail (outside of bnet often) to pm someone.

On January 21 2014 04:09 FrozenProbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.


rotfl, and you think that a gigantic videogame company cares about your bashing? lol the only thing they cares about is money, if lotv won't sell a lot of copies maybe they will change something, but everyone knows that lotv will be a success, milions of copies in the first week.. and you know why? Because a lot of people does not care a shit about multiplayer, they want to see how the story ends (or maybe not, after 15 years).

Stop being so optimistic, you don't count a shit for Blizzard. And you like everyone else in this forum will buy LotV, no matter what.. even if they develop even more retarded units.


You are beeing to pessimistic. I always hope that there are at least a few talented Blizzard that actually care about the game they are creating.
aka Kalevi
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:16:13
January 20 2014 19:14 GMT
#2035
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.

HoTS made sc2 worse? Oh god you didnt remember end of WoL....
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 20 2014 19:16 GMT
#2036
On January 21 2014 04:12 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:08 Plansix wrote:
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.

I know. If I don't yell at and bash my teammates in dota 2, they will never get better at the game.


Are you implying that saying nothing will solve the issues people have with the game? If there wouldnt have been people who bashed Blizzard for the lack of chat channels and this REAL ID stuff we would still have to ask for everyones e-mail to pm someone.

Nope. I'm implying that it's a terrible way to communicate. Constructive criticism is fine. Bashing and calling people ode iota for not following the communities every suggestion is pretty useless.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
January 20 2014 19:19 GMT
#2037
On January 21 2014 04:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.

HoTS made sc2 worse? Oh god you didnt remember end of WoL....


I meant before the dumb queen patch
aka Kalevi
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
January 20 2014 19:22 GMT
#2038
Why are you all discussing what might happen with Starbow and comparing it to SC2? Who the fuck cares? I'll play the game until there are only two people left...how's that? And if suddenly SC2BW exploded and there were a lot of players? Yeah, you know what, the games are similar enough and have the gameplay that I'm looking for that I might play that too!

It's really boring reading the last few pages of this thread and seeing such destructive conversations T_T. I was hoping for a bug report, even, that would be more exciting!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:39:54
January 20 2014 19:39 GMT
#2039
On January 21 2014 04:19 404AlphaSquad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On January 21 2014 04:03 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:48 FrozenProbe wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:42 404AlphaSquad wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The Blizzard-hate in here reminds me of a 12 year old spoiled brat who now "hates his parents".

Blizzard has done great work making a fantastic MOD Kit.
BLizzard's team deserves a fuck-tonne of credit for it.

For any Blizz CM's reading this thread.
Keep up the great work Blizzard.
The guys who say they hate you really love you.


Yeah their editor is great. Their game is not.


The game and the editor are awesome, the only problem is the multiplayer design/balance. SC2 is WAY more than the multiplayer, campaign is cool, arcade is cool, editor is cool.. yeah after 3 years the multi sucks, they can fix it with the last expansion.. if they don't we'll play starbow (or the next big mod that will be out with lotv).

I don't understand why we've to bash Blizzard for that. Sure, they can improve the e-sport part of the game, but SC2 is not a bad game at all.


Multiplayer is what Starcraft 2 is all about. HOTS was already supposed to fix it and in fact it made it worse. We have to criticise/bash Blizzard for that! Otherwise they wont react and think everything is fine.

HoTS made sc2 worse? Oh god you didnt remember end of WoL....


I meant before the dumb queen patch

Thing is HoTS fixed winfestor/GGlord. HoTS added harrashment possibilities for protoss and mothershipcore that allows protoss to move out of his base. It fixed biggest problems of WoL (balance not design).
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
January 20 2014 19:39 GMT
#2040
Does anybody know why broodwar maps have so much unbuildable space?`And if we are to treat starbow as something else than broodwar sc2, why don't do the mapmakers the same and let us build where it looks buildable?
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