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Canada16217 Posts
On November 12 2013 09:15 AoWAraGorn wrote:
I'm so glad i quit this game a couple of months ago and switched to LoL...
Anyone, who seriously still believes that this balance team is capable of creating a balanced and fun-to-watch game, must be completely blind. Blizzards balance team just doesnt have the guts to put in major changes to actually create balance and especially a lot of options ingame. They said now for like TWO YEARS that they wanted to make mech viable, and have even made it worse, and there are actually people LIKING these changes? People actually think that a balance team, that cannot make a composition viable in 2 years time, NOT EVEN with the addon, can manage to create a balanced game?
They made unnecessary changes in WoL that werent even community approved and COMPLETELY destroyed the game with it(queen/overlord change), and still they make questionable or at least unnecessary and not enough tested changes?
This was once my favorite game to watch besides from balancing, there was nothing i liked more for a time than to watch pro level Starcraft matches. But even the entertainment factor got ruined by the balance team. I just dont even enjoy watching this game anymore, which i once so liked. And why? Cuz u see THE SAME SHIT every game, 3 CC all over the place. The last time terran had 1 base pressuring option WITHOUT commiting and allining, was 2 years ago, and since thats gone now thanks to MSC and queendralisks, its just reaper into 3cc all day every day. And since they won't change mech properly, ull also see the same lategame compositions in just every single game. Sad....
so ignorant it's hilarious. why even bother posting here?
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On November 12 2013 09:18 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 09:10 NovemberstOrm wrote:
people should quit bitching and actually play the game. It's maybe because we care a lot about it, playing it a shit ton ? I play a lot Starcraft 2 and as a terran I KNOW that the oracle will be a fucking pain in the ass (it already is but much more now..). The WM is the key unit in TvZ, and with this massive nerf, it will be so fucking impossible to win without gimmicky play.
The nerf isn't that massive. Originally they were going to nerf it to like 1.0 or something from whatever it's at now. That would have been a massive change. With the nerf it got now, it's not that bad.
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I'm so glad i quit this game a couple of months ago and switched to LoL...
I agree, I'm so glad you quit too.
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Oracle buff is retarded, it was already one of the strongest units in the game. Also tanks now 2.8 instead of 2.7, making insignificant change barely noticeable. As always Blizzard has no idea of their game...
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Thank god for the WM change. Now it takes 2 widow mines (based on my tests on the balance maps) to take out a pack of lings instead of just 1. Also, as a Zerg player, I just have to say to everyone, watch the fuck out! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAH Tunneling roaches are fíng scary now.
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Terran gets put straight into the dumpster if these changes go ahead :\ There goes my dream of gm on t 
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On November 12 2013 09:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 09:15 AoWAraGorn wrote:
I'm so glad i quit this game a couple of months ago and switched to LoL...
Anyone, who seriously still believes that this balance team is capable of creating a balanced and fun-to-watch game, must be completely blind. Blizzards balance team just doesnt have the guts to put in major changes to actually create balance and especially a lot of options ingame. They said now for like TWO YEARS that they wanted to make mech viable, and have even made it worse, and there are actually people LIKING these changes? People actually think that a balance team, that cannot make a composition viable in 2 years time, NOT EVEN with the addon, can manage to create a balanced game?
They made unnecessary changes in WoL that werent even community approved and COMPLETELY destroyed the game with it(queen/overlord change), and still they make questionable or at least unnecessary and not enough tested changes?
This was once my favorite game to watch besides from balancing, there was nothing i liked more for a time than to watch pro level Starcraft matches. But even the entertainment factor got ruined by the balance team. I just dont even enjoy watching this game anymore, which i once so liked. And why? Cuz u see THE SAME SHIT every game, 3 CC all over the place. The last time terran had 1 base pressuring option WITHOUT commiting and allining, was 2 years ago, and since thats gone now thanks to MSC and queendralisks, its just reaper into 3cc all day every day. And since they won't change mech properly, ull also see the same lategame compositions in just every single game. Sad.... so ignorant it's hilarious. why even bother posting here?
It's not ignorant at all. What exactly did he say that isnt true. They HAVE been saying for 2 years they want to make mech viable, and they haven't been able to do so. If this was a university exam they would not only get an F, theyd be out on their asses and banned from campus.
I mean seriously, why on earth could they let this game finish in the first place without having a proper trackingturret on the tank, on the hellion, the immortal... the list goes on. Thats such a blatant fuckup lol.
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Ladder is about to get seriously pissed off at my cheesy burrowed roach play >:D
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On November 12 2013 09:21 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 09:18 Faust852 wrote:On November 12 2013 09:10 NovemberstOrm wrote:
people should quit bitching and actually play the game. It's maybe because we care a lot about it, playing it a shit ton ? I play a lot Starcraft 2 and as a terran I KNOW that the oracle will be a fucking pain in the ass (it already is but much more now..). The WM is the key unit in TvZ, and with this massive nerf, it will be so fucking impossible to win without gimmicky play. The nerf isn't that massive. Originally they were going to nerf it to like 1.0 or something from whatever it's at now. That would have been a massive change. With the nerf it got now, it's not that bad.
Yey, I dunno, it's still huge I think. And the tank buff is no way enough to close the gap the WM nerf will make.
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On November 12 2013 09:21 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 09:18 Faust852 wrote:On November 12 2013 09:10 NovemberstOrm wrote:
people should quit bitching and actually play the game. It's maybe because we care a lot about it, playing it a shit ton ? I play a lot Starcraft 2 and as a terran I KNOW that the oracle will be a fucking pain in the ass (it already is but much more now..). The WM is the key unit in TvZ, and with this massive nerf, it will be so fucking impossible to win without gimmicky play. The nerf isn't that massive. Originally they were going to nerf it to like 1.0 or something from whatever it's at now. That would have been a massive change. With the nerf it got now, it's not that bad.
mines will do 0 dmg to regenerating muta and no longer os blings when the match up is balanced. But it's not that bad yeah...
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Wow that oracle buff.... even sooner proxy oracle and way harder to catch with marines o_O
And the petty siege tank buff got reduced even more? Really Blizzard? It has a million counters. 7% extra attack speed is not going to change that. Make it a unit to be feared.
Widow mine nerf, don't know. It was strong but also needed.. Terrans got pretty little benefit from HotS with the hellbat nerfed into oblivion and a reduced widow mine. It's a bit sad. Maybe I should switch races.
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The oracle change is pure sillyness. I think the tank/widow mine changes won't be a huge difference. In fact, the reduction of WM friendly fire somewhat offsets the lower damage in ZvT.
I strongly dislike where the protoss metagame is at the moment. The combination of storm, warpgate and mcore makes every build order extrordinarilly forgiving. Scouted DT openers, proxy oracles, and massive army control failures can lead into normal games. As an example, T at 200 supply vs P at 120 supply could potentially be an even game. Reverse the supplies and it will be GG in under two minutes.
I love the idea of having mech be viable, but I do not understand how it can happen without completely destroying TvT.
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I am completely serious now, we should see more mines tx to this nerf. T will need even more mines, like srsly who will make tanks? dunno if sad or funny
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Canada16217 Posts
On November 12 2013 09:24 Snusmumriken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 09:19 NovemberstOrm wrote:On November 12 2013 09:15 AoWAraGorn wrote:
I'm so glad i quit this game a couple of months ago and switched to LoL...
Anyone, who seriously still believes that this balance team is capable of creating a balanced and fun-to-watch game, must be completely blind. Blizzards balance team just doesnt have the guts to put in major changes to actually create balance and especially a lot of options ingame. They said now for like TWO YEARS that they wanted to make mech viable, and have even made it worse, and there are actually people LIKING these changes? People actually think that a balance team, that cannot make a composition viable in 2 years time, NOT EVEN with the addon, can manage to create a balanced game?
They made unnecessary changes in WoL that werent even community approved and COMPLETELY destroyed the game with it(queen/overlord change), and still they make questionable or at least unnecessary and not enough tested changes?
This was once my favorite game to watch besides from balancing, there was nothing i liked more for a time than to watch pro level Starcraft matches. But even the entertainment factor got ruined by the balance team. I just dont even enjoy watching this game anymore, which i once so liked. And why? Cuz u see THE SAME SHIT every game, 3 CC all over the place. The last time terran had 1 base pressuring option WITHOUT commiting and allining, was 2 years ago, and since thats gone now thanks to MSC and queendralisks, its just reaper into 3cc all day every day. And since they won't change mech properly, ull also see the same lategame compositions in just every single game. Sad.... so ignorant it's hilarious. why even bother posting here? It's not ignorant at all. What exactly did he say that isnt true. They HAVE been saying for 2 years they want to make mech viable, and they haven't been able to do so. If this was a university exam they would not only get an F, theyd be out on their asses and banned from campus. I mean seriously, why on earth could they let this game finish in the first place without having a proper trackingturret on the tank, on the hellion, the immortal... the list goes on. Thats such a blatant fuckup lol.
Alright i'll give it to him that the first half is fair but the 2nd part is idiotic
But even the entertainment factor got ruined by the balance team. I just dont even enjoy watching this game anymore, which i once so liked. And why? Cuz u see THE SAME SHIT every game, 3 CC all over the place. The last time terran had 1 base pressuring option WITHOUT commiting and allining, was 2 years ago, and since thats gone now thanks to MSC and queendralisks, its just reaper into 3cc all day every day. And since they won't change mech properly, ull also see the same lategame compositions in just every single game. Sad....
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On November 12 2013 08:31 Faust852 wrote:
Stupid patch, fucking useless. Just delete terran from the game it would be the same.
Upgrade change ? Only affect TvT,
Tanks ? Only affect TvT,
Oracles ? YEY SO STRONK LATEGAME NOW ! IT S NOT LIKE SOS AND DUCKDEOK WON THEIR TVP WITH PROXY ORACLES.
Mines ? Lmao, 49% WR in TvZ but nerfing the unit to dead will be much better.
Fucking Blizzard and their fucking ideas.
Tanks only effect T v T - sure thing buddy
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On November 12 2013 09:28 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 08:31 Faust852 wrote:
Stupid patch, fucking useless. Just delete terran from the game it would be the same.
Upgrade change ? Only affect TvT,
Tanks ? Only affect TvT,
Oracles ? YEY SO STRONK LATEGAME NOW ! IT S NOT LIKE SOS AND DUCKDEOK WON THEIR TVP WITH PROXY ORACLES.
Mines ? Lmao, 49% WR in TvZ but nerfing the unit to dead will be much better.
Fucking Blizzard and their fucking ideas.
Tanks only effect T v T - sure thing buddy
Maybe when they decide to remove the Viper I might think doing some tanks in TvZ.
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On November 12 2013 09:24 sAsImre wrote:
mines will do 0 dmg to regenerating muta and no longer os blings when the match up is balanced. But it's not that bad yeah...
How do people like this even post on this forum? Man, things have gone downhill.
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On November 12 2013 09:10 NovemberstOrm wrote:
people should quit bitching and actually play the game.
will that save problems for me, cause from what I heard is that the game is balanced around some Koreans who play 10+hrs a day, and everyone below that faces a big inbalance and further optimizing this game for Korean Pros does make the game more balanced -right, but not more fun to play.
If a lesser player keeps winning with simple 50-70 apm "strategies" (or cheeses), while another trys to wear him down with his 200 apm multitasking strategy and the game says well you are both diamond/Master league (whatever that says), thats not a fair competition anymore and that is what I meant with there is too much randomness und too easy to execute but fatal strategies with units that are getting stronger, faster etc, while this isn't adressing the problems at all..
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so back to playing WoL for terran, good job blizzard.
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On November 12 2013 09:30 lowercase wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 09:24 sAsImre wrote:
mines will do 0 dmg to regenerating muta and no longer os blings when the match up is balanced. But it's not that bad yeah... How do people like this even post on this forum? Man, things have gone downhill.
This guy is close to GM. What league are you to argue with him ?
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