EPT[Interview] Stork after soju - Page 4
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 31 2013 00:56 Velr wrote: Isn't he like just dissmissing the Destinies and "late" Idras? People that get tons of viewers because they play "decent/good" but mainly because they rage and create General drama? Which is a perfectly fine position? Yeah, kinda. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
Q: After entering the SC2 era, fans [...] (T/N don’t know what this means). What is wrong with SC2? A: SC1 was fun because every game was different, and it depended on your performance that game. On the contrary, in SC2 each game looks the same. Just turtle till 200 supply and fight. When in a disadvantage, if you could not harass your opponent, you would lose straight-on as well. Maybe that is why even if your favourite team lost, you did not think the opponents played particularly well. But this is all in the standpoint of the viewer. For the progamers, both SC1 and SC2 are meaningful. They have to work hard and prepare for all the competitions and prove themselves with results. Ouch. I feel a little bit of I told you so coming on. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:34 Sabu113 wrote: Ouch. I feel a little bit of I told you so coming on. It would be if we are talking about WoL, however... | ||
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FrodaN
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On October 30 2013 22:11 Plexa wrote: This is such an insanely good interview wow. hahaha. Circa-2003 Stork is a one and only guy haha. That's a gem Plexa. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Especially his opinion of streaming is just sad. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Really nice interview though. Hope Stork will be able to visit an oversea tournament ... with a non german like crowd. Interesting view on the streaming, makes me respect him alot. | ||
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On October 31 2013 00:20 lemmata wrote: As to be expected of a translation of a translation, the translation is pretty bad. That said, it is still an interesting interview. Stork seems to be mainly unhappy about streamers on Afreeca who are destroying the public image of pro gamers. If you watch those streams, many are constantly swearing, begging for money, treating fans who don't donate balloons like shit, and just overall acting like ignorant assholes. I think that Bisu/Mind/hero/killer probably behave decently for the most part. Sea's stream is pretty darn embarrassing at times, but he's far from the worst in terms of this behavior. There's been a conservative movement in Korea to include computer gaming as one of the 4 Great Evils of society to be targeted by the government (along with alcohol, drugs, and gambling). The public image of pro gamers is important to ensuring the survival of the industry. I won't agree with everything Stork said, but he is 1) not condemning all streaming on Afreeca (only the ones embarrassing themselves and the pro gaming community) 2) saying that pro gamers should feel some personal responsibility to their profession. Finally, I just want to say that this interview made me so sad. Reading between the lines, it seems that Stork has been dealing with some serious depression issues that required treatment. When he says that the medicine he was prescribed (by a psychiatrist) contributed to his weight gain, I cannot help but think that it is also affecting his level of play by inhibiting certain neural pathways. Seems like you know a lot about what's going on "inside" there, was that in large part because of Match fixing scandal, or maybe it was happening before, like even in 2005-2006 peak years? | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
Never again. | ||
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itsdaniel
Austria334 Posts
Finally, I just want to say that this interview made me so sad. Reading between the lines, it seems that Stork has been dealing with some serious depression issues that required treatment. When he says that the medicine he was prescribed (by a psychiatrist) contributed to his weight gain, I cannot help but think that it is also affecting his level of play by inhibiting certain neural pathways. I want to see the role models you have admitting so much truth about their personality & issues... ofc everyone out there is so stable, perfect & genuine.. this is such a truthful interview, there won't be a lot more | ||
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
He's such a role model in many ways. Man, 10 years in the same team. Wow. | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3047 Posts
Stork doesn't criticize the concept of BW afreeca streaming. He condemns the progamers who break their previous image to beg for money, start cursing at fans, etc (and I can name a few). That's why he also talks about the pride of being a progamer. He believes that if you were a progamer, even if you retire, you should keep your image infront of your fans. Especially if you're going to do personal streaming that involves the game that helped you gain the fans in the first place. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2633 Posts
Thanks for the Interview! | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
Yet Terror is like the most popular streamer. Well, except maybe bisu. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Here's the original Korean text and my direct translation for the streaming part. + Show Spoiler [Original Korean] + - 그래도 은퇴한 선수들은 개인방송을 통해서 팬들을 찾고 있잖아요. 인기가 장난이 아니던데, 부럽지는 않아요? ▶ 저는 개인방송에 대해서 굉장히 부정적이거든요. 방송에서 망가지는 모습을 보니까 안타까워요. 조작 사건과 관련된 선수도 방송을 하잖아요. 그러니 더더욱 개인방송에 대해 좋은 인상을 받기가 어렵죠. 저는 프로게이머로서의 프라이드가 강해요. 관중들이 한 둘씩 오는 것이 아니라 몇 만 명씩 와서 환호를 하잖아요. 그런 팬들이 좋아했던 것은 궁극적으로 그 선수의 플레이잖아요. 개인방송을 하는 사람들 중에 일부는 그런 환상을 모두 깨는 동시에, 팬들을 돈으로 보는 행동을 해요. 분명히 대회장에서 보면 정말 멀쩡했거든요. 그런데 돈을 위해 그렇게까지 변한다는 점이 무척 아쉬워요. 순수한 의도면 모를까 돈을 위한 방송은 하지 않았으면 좋겠어요. 물론 안 그런 선수들도 있지만요. - Still, many retired progamers are interacting with their fans via their personal streams. [These streamers/streams] are quite popular, are you perhaps jealous of them? ▶ My view on those personal streams is very negative. It's sad to see them embarrass themselves in their broadcasts. Besides, even those associated with the matchfixing scandal are streaming, and that makes it even harder to view the streams in a positive light. I take great personal pride in being a progamer. Fans don't come one by one, they come by the tens of thousands to cheer [for the progamers/teams]. For those fans, the core motivation behind their loyalty is the player's skill. Some of the [ex-progamer] streamers shatter those images while broadcasting, and [even do things that show] they treat the fans as money [and nothing more]. All of these guys were perfectly fine before [when I met them / was with them in eSports stadiums/competitions]. That's why it's so disappointing to see these guys turn [into what I described above] just for money. Streaming for [enjoyment of the game, etc.] is fine, but I hope they don't stream for the sole purpose of making money. Of course, not all streamers are like that. So in this case, the translation in the OP is not too far off... maybe this thread won't be closed like the iloveoov's lol. | ||
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lemmata
468 Posts
On October 31 2013 02:35 itsdaniel wrote: I want to see the role models you have admitting so much truth about their personality & issues... ofc everyone out there is so stable, perfect & genuine.. this is such a truthful interview, there won't be a lot more I agree. Maybe you misunderstood me. Stork is not my role model. I like Stork as a fan. Therefore, it makes me sad to hear that he's been going through difficult stuff. I want him to do well and be happy with his life. I am not disappointed in him for being depressed or seeking treatment. | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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Ctesias
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