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I tended to use it quite a bit as it came out but have the feeling it hurts more than it does good for Protoss at least.
I found for me that I started to rely on it more getting a bit sloppier with properly setting up my hotkeys. Also the option of having it sometimes hurt me by using all army in response to a drop and moving there with everything instead of just a control group. Also losing position on observers constantly because it get's selected was horrible.
It's useful if used with care, just for hotkeying all units of a kind etc. For zerg especially I feel it's useful. It's also fine for just having an all army button to retreat or advance like the typical 1-a move but for protoss it sucks that you select observers, for zerg overseers (though that is generally not too bad). It would be very handy if you could tweak it, for example remove overseers or observers from the selection. For terran I like it quite a bit though, not really anything you can select you don't want to, your mines for example are stuck anyway.
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On August 22 2013 05:36 kaluro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 04:14 Lorch wrote: Nope and I'd rather hang myself than doing so. That button is such a disgrace, anyone who ever spent time playing zerg in bw will understand. I hate using all army on one control, I can't micro like that at all.
@nerchio: U using 3 control groups and winning is the biggest joke in all of esports. I feel you have misread the main post. as I said I use it as an alternative to egg-hotkeying, selecting all zerg/banelings/overseers and putting them on 1, selecting all mutalisks, putting them on 2 etc. I don't use that button as a control group by itself at all, putting all my units in 1 control group. Either you have not read the OP, or you misread it ^_=.
I did read it and I understood what you do (though it sounds about 500 times harder than ctrl clicking eggs), but I still feel like such a buttom shouldn't exist. Now the the second sentence was more towards using it as a control group substitute like some people do and not towards what you are doing, I should have made that clearer.
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I use it all the time to find observers and ctrl-click to group tech units. I do tend to hit it in panic situations as well though, and that's something I need to get away from.
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On August 22 2013 04:14 Lorch wrote: Nope and I'd rather hang myself than doing so. That button is such a disgrace, anyone who ever spent time playing zerg in bw will understand. I hate using all army on one control, I can't micro like that at all.
@nerchio: U using 3 control groups and winning is the biggest joke in all of esports. You're just mad, it's not Starcraft1 anymore and this button is very useful
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I'm a masters Terran and I use it from time to time to grab units that just came out of production/ in reinforcement pile/ manage units being rallied. I think it's more useful for Terran than Zerg or Protoss due to them having to leave units around at bases more than Terran does.
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I dont use it but ive seen forGG use it in tvp when he's rallying units to the front to try and smash a protoss in an extended fight. Units get there 2/3 hp but much faster then normal since they've been stimmed twice.
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When playing terran you can spam F2 and T for quick reinforcements at the front!
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It's very useful for Monobattles.
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Wow, a staggering 52% thus far, does NOT use the button at all. But you still see Nerchio and Snute using the button occassionally, for certain things.
Not sure what to think of this :-)!
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I find it not only useless, but outright dangerous for 1v1, because it can mess up all the positions of individual units I have cleverly created before and forgot about ...
On the other hand, I find it pretty usefull in 4v4 - I off-race in 4v4s and thus I can't really do more than just macro and send units for someone to micro, so I may as well just send them all and they will sort them out. Also, it was perfect in the campaign I just finished (I know...) with all the heros and revived zerglings and whatever just to make sure the all a-move in the right general direction (which is, sadly, the winning startegy on Brutal).
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This sounds maybe a bit strange, but i use it to find my observers. Sometimes the rally of by robo is off, and when in panic mode (a DT in your base) it's very handy
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A lot of rudeness in this thread.
I think Nerchio (and Snute although he isn't being singled out by anyone here) deserve more respect when it comes to in game knowledge.
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I use it when I play P since I have pylons around the map for scouting, usually during late-game. I don't use it for T since I use Marines to scout around the map and usually have drops going around.
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I think it takes away control. It makes me feel really awkward. I've unbound it for that reason. I prefer just a really diverse hotkey setup that allows me to control everything I want or need to.
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On August 21 2013 05:33 kaluro wrote: If anyone has any advice in regards to army control with (or without?) that button, please do join in.
I am currently curious about who uses the SAAUB button, and why and when, and who doesn't. whether it's a large or just a minor part of the community, keep the votes coming.
I use this button way too often. So the scoutlings which were sent to check for expansion running back 
I am still not sure if I should change my scouting methods (for example use overlords) or if I should use the button less often.
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I think this option is the best buff terran could hope for (is it makes it imba? ofc not).
The simple reason is that terran units are most hard to hotkey since terrans cant hotkey eggs or warpins as they get created, they make a unit, wait a while, and only then they can hotkey it.
Plus, in TvZ for example, thats another reason how terrans can really put alot of pressure, rally to the zerg 4th, and while the pressure is on going - Select all army + stim, and the pressure on the zerg is really constant. Another great example of usage is when terrans losing the battle, while their rally point was pointed to aggresion, instead of now looking on the mini map and wasting alot of APM on control the bad rally bio (that is rallying into his death), just select all army and retreat. 2 simple clicks.
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Master T here, I use that button all the time. It's actually a thing that changes the game for me since Hots... it just feels more comfortable.
The only problem I have right now using it, is when I have marines spread on the map to scout, and when I press space (select all) during a battle all the marines gather to the battle.
But it's just because I am lazy. One solution I have is to use scvs instead to scout the map.
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Nope, only when I panic
the problem with select all army is that it puts specific units out of position. ie, zealots in the back without a way of charging forward, sentries where they cant ff, colossus in the front etc
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I rebound it to ctrl+A. How intuitive!
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I play Zerg and I don't use this button as I just add all my eggs to my control groups and rally them from there. This is also laziness because I simply don't want to override muscle memory from WoL to make use of this marginally useful button.
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