EPTViolet forfeits WCS AM Ro16 Season 2 due to Visa Issues -…
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DsT-Napoleon
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:54 DinosaurJones wrote: Last I heard both of them were still in question. I'd be happy to be wrong though! Macsed got one, Jim's still not confirmed (probably won't get one) On August 04 2013 21:00 DsT-Napoleon wrote: Perhaps he shouldn't have entered in NA? It was either that or EU (which is shit latency-wise from China) - KR requires you to physically be there all season. | ||
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:55 arie3000 wrote: Well...  Joking aside, this is a pretty sad situation, and I think holding the finals next year in Canada might be an option. Alternatively, Blizz should indeed put the RO16 players on the payroll for the duration of the tournament (and not for 1$, but somewhat reasonable salary - maybe employ them in their home country so this can count as a 'work visit', which is probably easier to get. IMHO after a dropout, #17 should get a spot, so no-one gets the advantage of a walkover, and we get to see more matches  No, Canada is not an option - blizzard was pretty clear they plan to move the whole ro32 into LAN. How people residing in korea get their visas sorted in the future is not their concern, unless they actually need one to live in a team house in US. With chinese players blizzard has a responsibility, since they screwed the whole region over. | ||
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Amaril
Germany105 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Isn't there a minimum age requirement for competing in Germany? That's hardly ideal... 16 | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 04 2013 21:03 rename wrote: No, Canada is not an option - blizzard was pretty clear they plan to move the whole ro32 into LAN. How people residing in korea get their visas sorted in the future is not their concern, unless they actually need one to live in a team house in US. With chinese players blizzard has a responsibility, since they screwed the whole region over. Exactly. There is no grantees that they won't have other problems in Canada. Other players have had to deal with this problem, like Demuslim, who spent the money to get a work Visa and is on a US based team. And really, Violet did this to himself by overstaying his visa/getting 90 visas over and over to stay in the US. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
Yeah. I'm just saying, FlaSh and Life won the most prestigious titles of their respective games when they were 15. If I'm not mistaken Creator was also 15 when he won TSL4 and WCS KR 2012. There's other examples I'm sure. Hell you guys have HeRoMaRiNe who's been pretty good lately right? :/ | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On August 04 2013 21:00 DsT-Napoleon wrote: Perhaps he shouldn't have entered in NA? Perhaps Blizzard shouldn't host WCS AM in the USA. | ||
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DinosaurJones
United States1000 Posts
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archonOOid
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
I heard that some players from Europe and similar regions have traveled to the U.S. on the visa waiver program where you're allowed to stay up to 90 days without visa. But if I remember correctly, that program specifically states that occupational activities are not covered. Wonder how tournament competitions with prize money fit in with that. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On August 04 2013 21:02 Zealously wrote: Macsed got one, Jim's still not confirmed (probably won't get one) It was either that or EU (which is shit latency-wise from China) - KR requires you to physically be there all season. Yet another way the KR region is markedly different from the other two. Where is the consistency? I thought that was the point of this whole abomination of a tournament. | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
On August 04 2013 18:21 Gamegene wrote: it hurts reading about every visa issue ever since LCS cleared this problem :/ Even if they did start doing that special "sport competitor visa" or whatever it is I still think Violet would have trouble getting one. It seems that he was illegally staying in the US for a very long time, they're not going to forget that. What I'm about to say may be incredibly unpopular, and I really do like the guy, but is it time to consider banning Violet from competing in season 3 (for AM only). That's two walkovers now, whether it was his fault or not is irrelevant. I've played in regional leagues for my local football and hockey teams and if a team ever conceded two walkovers it was instant relegation. If the guy has no chance to attend the live RO16 event then he's costing other players a spot and also making the tournament look like a complete joke. WCS is how it is now and we have to get used to that, but come 2014 I hope Blizzard make some big changes to avoid all this mess. | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
On August 04 2013 18:08 VieuxSinge wrote: How come he is the only Korean with visa issues? I'd imagine it has something to do with him living in America for most of 2012. It still sucks that he keeps getting shut down though. Makes the worst WCS region that much worse when we can't get some of the players to come | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
On August 04 2013 21:30 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Yeah. I'm just saying, FlaSh and Life won the most prestigious titles of their respective games when they were 15. If I'm not mistaken Creator was also 15 when he won TSL4 and WCS KR 2012. There's other examples I'm sure. Hell you guys have HeRoMaRiNe who's been pretty good lately right? :/ Heromarine + Show Spoiler + (the capitalisation in his name is so stupid) | ||
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marcjpb
Canada64 Posts
On August 04 2013 18:31 Waxangel wrote: so violet overstayed his visa and is having trouble getting back surprise -_-? If this is the case, its very poor management from his team. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
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Santi
Colombia466 Posts
On August 04 2013 18:27 opisska wrote: Why is WCS America always in USA anyway. Isn't it supposed to mean the whole continent? Just make the offline part in any Latin American country, they let in almost everyone (sometimes you have to pay a small official fee, sometimes a small inoffical as well, but that's small change compared to the prize pool ).Thats not really true, back in 2012 WCS Colombia Qualifers held in Bogota, Colombia, WhiteRa was going to come for TtEsports and do some marketing stuff for them at the Campus Party but his visa was denied. | ||
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Akimbo
Canada105 Posts
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On the other hand, there has to be some sort of punishment being dolled out here by Blizzard/WCS/whatever ruling body resides over this. Qualifying for two consecutive Ro16, knocking out players, when you're not sure if you'll be able to attend the offline Ro16 and onward just doesn't seem right. On August 04 2013 22:38 Plansix wrote: I love how people keep assuming that people wouldn't have visa issues in other countries. You have to ask to enter another country and they might not let you in. I also love how people keep saying "why not host it in another country?" like it's practical and cost efficient to do so. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 04 2013 22:33 Santi wrote: Thats not really true, back in 2012 WCS Colombia Qualifers held in Bogota, Colombia, WhiteRa was going to come for TtEsports and do some marketing stuff for them at the Campus Party but his visa was denied. I love how people keep assuming that people wouldn't have visa issues in other countries. You have to ask to enter another country and they might not let you in. Was Violet the one who stayed in the US because he was seeing a girl? Or is that someone else? | ||
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