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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote: He's saying Blizzard shouldn't have let viOLet compete to begin with... well i am not a native speaker but "blizzards policy/stance REGARDING visa" as a formulation does not say they are involved with visas (not at all), but rather how they think or act based on it? or do i write fundamentally wrong english here? | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
On August 04 2013 18:57 Noocta wrote: Tbh, it's more Violet fault than anything this time. How you can say that this is rather Violet's fault? "Hi guys viOLet's manager here, long story short when you spend too much time in the U.S. in the prior year, getting a VISA can be difficult." In other words: Violet lived more in America than in South Korea at year 2012 (<- this is the prior year). Blizzard announce their WCS stuff (later) at 3rd April 2013. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 04 2013 19:25 Ronski wrote: They might aswell region lock WCS America, would decrease the amount of nasty surprises by 90% Also the level of play | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:14 m0ck wrote: These constant abandonment from players outside the US is the best argument for a region lock. There should be consequences for not showing up for the matches you signed up for.. No, it is not. It is a good argument for - doing it not in the US (not likely for commercial reasons) - players/teams doing better preparation for these matters - extra penalisation of players who fail to obtain visas - Blizzard lobbying for SC2 recognition as a sport. But you want the region lock, so youtry to use it as an argument for it, even though it isn't. These are very isolated cases, there are 11 koreans in the Ro16 and 10 of them seem to make it. | ||
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Taefox
1533 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:26 Dingodile wrote: How you can say that this is rather Violet's fault? "Hi guys viOLet's manager here, long story short when you spend too much time in the U.S. in the prior year, getting a VISA can be difficult." In other words: Violet lived more in America than in South Korea at year 2012 (<- this is the prior year). Blizzard announce their WCS stuff (later) at 3rd April 2013. On August 04 2013 18:12 Dodgin wrote: He stayed in the US illegally for a long time in 2012 and now they're not letting him back in, his manager lied and said it would all be fixed far before ro16 season 2 but well here we are. it's not Violet's fault but WHO ? | ||
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joelee1995
China2 Posts
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DinosaurJones
United States1000 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
poor guy really can't catch a break. and can blizzard just call up riot already to figure out how they worked their way around this problem? | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:40 DinosaurJones wrote: So it's possible that we might have 3 walkovers on the ro16 for WCS AM? Violet cannot be there and Jim and Macsed may also not be able to make it... that's pretty bad :/ Macsed got a visa though, didn't he? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:23 Naphal wrote: well i am not a native speaker but "blizzards policy/stance REGARDING visa" as a formulation does not say they are involved with visas (not at all), but rather how they think or act based on it? or do i write fundamentally wrong english here? Nope, everything you wrote was pretty clear. The guys responding to you didn't read it thoroughly. | ||
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Amaril
Germany105 Posts
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
This. No one would watch that. | ||
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Luiwtf
England217 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:26 Dingodile wrote: How you can say that this is rather Violet's fault? "Hi guys viOLet's manager here, long story short when you spend too much time in the U.S. in the prior year, getting a VISA can be difficult." In other words: Violet lived more in America than in South Korea at year 2012 (<- this is the prior year). Blizzard announce their WCS stuff (later) at 3rd April 2013. How isn't that Violet's fault? He chose to compete in WCS America twice, the first time knowing he'd been in the US illegally which would mean that it's unlikely he's going to get a Visa, and the second time after already being declined a Visa a few months prior. Assuming he did stay in the US illegally (I've read that he did a few times, but cba checking since I don't really care about Violet) this is hardly surprising or undeserved. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:47 Amaril wrote: Thats why its a terrible idea to do SC2 Events in america! All WCS NA Events should be held in Germany or Korea. Isn't there a minimum age requirement for competing in Germany? That's hardly ideal... | ||
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
Wonder how EG-TL and Axiom has managed to avoid all these issues. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 04 2013 19:06 LittleRedBoy wrote: Welcome to America, the most free country in the world! You think other countries don't have visas? America just happens to be the most popular country to go to for tournaments, many European countries have issues with Russian players, for instance. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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DinosaurJones
United States1000 Posts
Last I heard both of them were still in question. I'd be happy to be wrong though! | ||
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arie3000
153 Posts
On August 04 2013 19:10 Gamegene wrote: you really think our government is that incompetent when it comes to these kinds of issues? Well...  Joking aside, this is a pretty sad situation, and I think holding the finals next year in Canada might be an option. Alternatively, Blizz should indeed put the RO16 players on the payroll for the duration of the tournament (and not for 1$, but somewhat reasonable salary - maybe employ them in their home country so this can count as a 'work visit', which is probably easier to get. IMHO after a dropout, #17 should get a spot, so no-one gets the advantage of a walkover, and we get to see more matches  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:55 arie3000 wrote: Well... Joking aside, this is a pretty sad situation, and I think holding the finals next year in Canada might be an option. Alternatively, Blizz should indeed put the RO16 players on the payroll for the duration of the tournament (and not for 1$, but somewhat reasonable salary - maybe employ them in their home country so this can count as a 'work visit', which is probably easier to get. IMHO after a dropout, #17 should get a spot, so no-one gets the advantage of a walkover, and we get to see more matches Work visas are super expensive. Like $5,000-$10,000 expensive. And they dont give you one for a week long event. | ||
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