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calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 13:42:28
August 04 2013 13:42 GMT
#101
On August 04 2013 22:38 AgentW wrote:
Qualifying for two consecutive Ro16, knocking out players, when you're not sure if you'll be able to attend the offline Ro16 and onward just doesn't seem right.


Technically none of the non-US resident player can be sure they'll be able to attend Ro16 though.
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
August 04 2013 13:42 GMT
#102
Not again!
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 04 2013 13:43 GMT
#103
On August 04 2013 22:42 calh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 22:38 AgentW wrote:
Qualifying for two consecutive Ro16, knocking out players, when you're not sure if you'll be able to attend the offline Ro16 and onward just doesn't seem right.


Technically none of the non-US resident player can be sure they'll be able to attend Ro16 though.

Fair enough, but when you've been denied entry before because of an issue that hasn't been resolved, you should think twice about re-upping until you can set things straight.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Spectralx
Profile Joined November 2010
United States198 Posts
August 04 2013 13:48 GMT
#104
Region Lock for heavens sake please.
Spectral - Paralyzed Quadriplegic Gamer
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
August 04 2013 13:58 GMT
#105
esports visa, make it happen.

I understand why people would like a region lock, but no point in sending a bunch of players who will just lose all their matches at the finals anyway.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 04 2013 14:00 GMT
#106
Well, if he overstayed his visa, it's his fault for sticking in US region. There is no chance he will be able to get a visa within 10 years.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
August 04 2013 14:09 GMT
#107
Well this is strange as the USA does see eSports as sport and VISA's shoudn't be a problem

Well, now according to Riot Games eSports manager Nick Allen (speaking to Gamespot), after a long back and forth with the government, the U.S. finally now recognizes eSports players as professional athletes, and will grant them visas under that identifier. This will dramatically streamline the process for foreign players to enter the U.S. for events, and it’s a big victory for the scene.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/07/14/the-u-s-now-recognizes-esports-players-as-professional-athletes/
....
shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
August 04 2013 14:14 GMT
#108
On August 04 2013 23:09 Marchinko wrote:
Well this is strange as the USA does see eSports as sport and VISA's shoudn't be a problem

Show nested quote +
Well, now according to Riot Games eSports manager Nick Allen (speaking to Gamespot), after a long back and forth with the government, the U.S. finally now recognizes eSports players as professional athletes, and will grant them visas under that identifier. This will dramatically streamline the process for foreign players to enter the U.S. for events, and it’s a big victory for the scene.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/07/14/the-u-s-now-recognizes-esports-players-as-professional-athletes/


Forbe's article didn't mention how the USA only sees players in the LCS as professional athletes.
Graphics@shiroiusagi_ | shiroiusagi.net
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 04 2013 14:14 GMT
#109
More Visa issues
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
August 04 2013 14:15 GMT
#110
People who blame Blizzard for this - get a grip. He overstayed far too long last year and now he's paying for it. If you wanna blame Blizzard, you could say it's their fault not negotiating Jim's and Macsed's visas in time for which their team management is also to blame. And don't even try to justify it saying 'yeah, but you need booked flights etc'. They should've started official negotiation with immigration office way ahead to explore all the options, not wait for last minute.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 14:22:32
August 04 2013 14:21 GMT
#111
On August 04 2013 22:48 Spectralx wrote:
Region Lock for heavens sake please.

What region do you lock Chinese players into?
Or Australians?
Or South Africans?
Or Euros in the US, or Americans in Europe?
Or Koreans in Europe or the US?

Saying "region lock" is the most pointless thing in the world and IMO should be something that there's a rule against.
HOLY CHECK!
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
August 04 2013 14:21 GMT
#112
I am shocked, shocked to hear the Violet is messing up another WCS bracket by being a no show......
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 04 2013 14:23 GMT
#113
On August 04 2013 23:21 Lonyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 22:48 Spectralx wrote:
Region Lock for heavens sake please.

What region do you lock Chinese players into?
Or Australians?
Or South Africans?
Or Euros in the US, or Americans in Europe?
Or Koreans in Europe or the US?

Saying "region lock" is the most pointless thing in the world and IMO should be something that there's a rule against.


China, it has it's own scene, give it the support it deserves.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 04 2013 14:25 GMT
#114
It's highly questionable whether he should have entered season 2 when his visa was not at all a certainty.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
August 04 2013 14:26 GMT
#115
Continental region locks, with Korea as it's own "Continent" sounds good to me.

Split up the current NA prize pool among the other continents, should make a lot of people happy.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
August 04 2013 14:31 GMT
#116
This sucks for viOlet but this also sucks for HwangSin/Top or whoever else could have had viOlets spot and been able to attend.

Hopefully viOlet gets this visa situation sorted out soon because I miss having him at events.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
midnight999
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States257 Posts
August 04 2013 14:42 GMT
#117
Visas: killing e-sports since forever. sigh...
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 04 2013 14:44 GMT
#118
This should surprise nobody. Last time the US let viOlet in, he abused his visa and overstayed. He broke the law. That's their perspective and it happens to be correct. I know online we're all one big happy family, but countries take this stuff seriously. viOlet and his management really screwed up. Honestly, viOlet should probably try to switch regions, because it's going to continue to be hard/impossible for him to get into the US for years.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 14:51:49
August 04 2013 14:50 GMT
#119
Overstay is pretty bad for Visa, for normal people, they may never get a visa again in their whole life, ofc talking about US visa, not European countries, don't know policies there.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
August 04 2013 14:55 GMT
#120
Clearly.. This is bad

..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
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