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On August 04 2013 18:49 Lonyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 18:39 Naphal wrote:
well i hope blizzard changes the policy regarding visa, at the very least for people who already had to forfeit once.
and i know it might not be fair to take it out on the players, but honestly, this is a tournament for the entertainment of the viewers, and not for the players, the players only get money because viewers are watching, and you cannot really watch walkovers, i dont know what they will do, but especially for chinese players it seems rather difficult, so they would need to do something for their sc2 scene.
on the other hand, violet already had a visa and only has problems now because he violated (<,<) the terms that came with it, so i dont really feel sorry for him. Blizzard doesn't have a policy regarding visas. You need a visa to get into the US if you are from certain countries. That's a US government requirement. The only way Blizzard can "change the policy" is by not holding WCS AM in the USA, thereby changing the visa policy to the policy of the Canadian/Mexican etc government, rather than the US government.
maybe i phrased that wrong, blizzards policy (or better stance if i used that word wrong) regarding visas should be:
any player must be able to participate in the offlinematches, if a player already failed to do so once and/or his situation makes participation unlikely, he should be prevented from playing in that wcsregion.
of course i know that visas are government related and have nothing to do with a gaming company.
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On August 04 2013 19:05 petrox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 19:02 Fionn wrote:
Riot also pays their players salaries. They're basically all "employees" of Riot while they play in the LCS, getting a set amount of salary for every season they play in. Wouldn't paying every Premier / Challenger league player a nominal sum (i.e. 1 dollar, or a peppercorn) circumvent the whole problem then?
you really think our government is that incompetent when it comes to these kinds of issues?
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They might aswell region lock WCS America, would decrease the amount of nasty surprises by 90%
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Of course it sucks for violet, but simply playing in the korean wcs would be an easy soultion for every korean progamer with visa issues.
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The only people that consistently get their visa's denied are the Chinese players. Blizzard could just employ them (like Riot did, but far less people) and the problem would seize to exist. It would also make up a bit for the way the Chinese were treated at the start of this years WCS.
Violets situation is different because he and/ or his management fucked up as I understand it. Doesn't make it suck any less but yeah..
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please I want Axiom to pick up Violet they need the zerg too :s also shame these visa issues happen.
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2nd time in a row lol there has to be some big troubles.
Also sad that Xy couldn't play the match why isn't that also in the news with the rescheduled Top match? T_T
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I remember old GD show episode where they talked about this. I doubt even Blizzard can do much when a player fucks up his visa himself.
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oh ffs again?!
wtf already :/
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This sucks! 2 seasons in a row 
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Whilst its sad for Violet that he cant compete, at the end of the day it is a regional event for the Americas after all. This has nothing to do with Blizzard and is a personal issue between the player and the country he is attemping to work in
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They should make multiple entry visas a requirement for joining PremierLeague lol
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On August 04 2013 19:07 Naphal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 18:49 Lonyo wrote:On August 04 2013 18:39 Naphal wrote:
well i hope blizzard changes the policy regarding visa, at the very least for people who already had to forfeit once.
and i know it might not be fair to take it out on the players, but honestly, this is a tournament for the entertainment of the viewers, and not for the players, the players only get money because viewers are watching, and you cannot really watch walkovers, i dont know what they will do, but especially for chinese players it seems rather difficult, so they would need to do something for their sc2 scene.
on the other hand, violet already had a visa and only has problems now because he violated (<,<) the terms that came with it, so i dont really feel sorry for him. Blizzard doesn't have a policy regarding visas. You need a visa to get into the US if you are from certain countries. That's a US government requirement. The only way Blizzard can "change the policy" is by not holding WCS AM in the USA, thereby changing the visa policy to the policy of the Canadian/Mexican etc government, rather than the US government. maybe i phrased that wrong, blizzards policy (or better stance if i used that word wrong) regarding visas should be: any player must be able to participate in the offlinematches, if a player already failed to do so once and/or his situation makes participation unlikely, he should be prevented from playing in that wcsregion. of course i know that visas are government related and have nothing to do with a gaming company.
So you say you understand and yet still say Blizzard need to change their policy when its completely out of their hands?
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On August 04 2013 20:03 lichter wrote:
They should make multiple entry visas a requirement for joining PremierLeague lol
Visas require fees to be paid.
You want people who are from countries which don't have a WCS, through Blizzard's choice, to pay for visa applications on the off chance they might get into WCS AM premier league?
Or you think Blizzard should pay for those visa fees?
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On August 04 2013 18:31 Waxangel wrote:
so violet overstayed his visa and is having trouble getting back
surprise -_-?
nope...
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Is it easier to get a visa for Canada or the US ? Guess if that's the case Canada should host the NA finals.
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On August 04 2013 20:08 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 19:07 Naphal wrote:On August 04 2013 18:49 Lonyo wrote:On August 04 2013 18:39 Naphal wrote:
well i hope blizzard changes the policy regarding visa, at the very least for people who already had to forfeit once.
and i know it might not be fair to take it out on the players, but honestly, this is a tournament for the entertainment of the viewers, and not for the players, the players only get money because viewers are watching, and you cannot really watch walkovers, i dont know what they will do, but especially for chinese players it seems rather difficult, so they would need to do something for their sc2 scene.
on the other hand, violet already had a visa and only has problems now because he violated (<,<) the terms that came with it, so i dont really feel sorry for him. Blizzard doesn't have a policy regarding visas. You need a visa to get into the US if you are from certain countries. That's a US government requirement. The only way Blizzard can "change the policy" is by not holding WCS AM in the USA, thereby changing the visa policy to the policy of the Canadian/Mexican etc government, rather than the US government. maybe i phrased that wrong, blizzards policy (or better stance if i used that word wrong) regarding visas should be: any player must be able to participate in the offlinematches, if a player already failed to do so once and/or his situation makes participation unlikely, he should be prevented from playing in that wcsregion. of course i know that visas are government related and have nothing to do with a gaming company. So you say you understand and yet still say Blizzard need to change their policy when its completely out of their hands?
He's saying Blizzard shouldn't have let viOLet compete to begin with...
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These constant abandonment from players outside the US is the best argument for a region lock. There should be consequences for not showing up for the matches you signed up for..
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ForGG,Violet,the china guys...This is getting annoying.
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