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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On August 04 2013 18:27 opisska wrote:Why is WCS America always in USA anyway. Isn't it supposed to mean the whole continent? Just make the offline part in any Latin American country, they let in almost everyone (sometimes you have to pay a small official fee, sometimes a small inoffical as well, but that's small change compared to the prize pool  ). It would be awesome if NASL made WCS S3 Finals in Canada!
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this is weird, I had a feeling violet is close to retirement, hopefully this wont push him to do so
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Only Zerg Player i like watching...sad
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On August 04 2013 18:32 juicyjames wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2013 18:27 opisska wrote:Why is WCS America always in USA anyway. Isn't it supposed to mean the whole continent? Just make the offline part in any Latin American country, they let in almost everyone (sometimes you have to pay a small official fee, sometimes a small inoffical as well, but that's small change compared to the prize pool  ). It would be awesome if NASL made WCS S3 Finals in Canada!
Isn't getting Canadian visa also difficult? Maybe less than US, but still?
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well i hope blizzard changes the policy regarding visa, at the very least for people who already had to forfeit once.
and i know it might not be fair to take it out on the players, but honestly, this is a tournament for the entertainment of the viewers, and not for the players, the players only get money because viewers are watching, and you cannot really watch walkovers, i dont know what they will do, but especially for chinese players it seems rather difficult, so they would need to do something for their sc2 scene.
on the other hand, violet already had a visa and only has problems now because he violated (<,<) the terms that came with it, so i dont really feel sorry for him.
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Sad news for Violet, it will be interesting to see what Blizzard does to try and fix this next season.
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He overstayed, he shouldn't expect any other result, staying in the US for longer than you are allowed has consequences.
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Really sad to see visa issues again (and it´s always the US -.-) But it´s good to see that Blizzard has recognised this problem and pledged to deal with it.
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On August 04 2013 18:39 Naphal wrote: well i hope blizzard changes the policy regarding visa, at the very least for people who already had to forfeit once.
and i know it might not be fair to take it out on the players, but honestly, this is a tournament for the entertainment of the viewers, and not for the players, the players only get money because viewers are watching, and you cannot really watch walkovers, i dont know what they will do, but especially for chinese players it seems rather difficult, so they would need to do something for their sc2 scene.
on the other hand, violet already had a visa and only has problems now because he violated (<,<) the terms that came with it, so i dont really feel sorry for him. Blizzard doesn't have a policy regarding visas. You need a visa to get into the US if you are from certain countries. That's a US government requirement. The only way Blizzard can "change the policy" is by not holding WCS AM in the USA, thereby changing the visa policy to the policy of the Canadian/Mexican etc government, rather than the US government.
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Spot could have gone to a player who can attend, Violet is going to have trouble getting in the US at all for a long time (maybe until sc is officially a sport?)
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Another victim of visa issues. I feel so bad for these players who can't travel abroad because of this.
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On August 04 2013 18:48 pretender58 wrote: Really sad to see visa issues again (and it´s always the US -.-) But it´s good to see that Blizzard has recognised this problem and pledged to deal with it.
Tbh, it's more Violet fault than anything this time.
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LoL needs to come in and save SC2 for the better of ESportS. Their players have an easier time getting VISA issues right? Now that they are recognized for being professional athletes who compete at the pinnacle of greatness
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On August 04 2013 18:59 tshi wrote: LoL needs to come in and save SC2 for the better of ESportS. Their players have an easier time getting VISA issues right? Now that they are recognized for being professional athletes who compete at the pinnacle of greatness
Why would LoL ( Riot ) care ? They got through a lot of work and negotiation to get this advantage. They won't just say " Oh, and if you could do the same for my competitor who didn't move a finger, that'd be nice. "
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United States23455 Posts
Riot also pays their players salaries. They're basically all "employees" of Riot while they play in the LCS, getting a set amount of salary for every season they play in.
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On August 04 2013 19:02 Fionn wrote: Riot also pays their players salaries. They're basically all "employees" of Riot while they play in the LCS, getting a set amount of salary for every season they play in.
Wouldn't paying every Premier / Challenger league player a nominal sum (i.e. 1 dollar, or a peppercorn) circumvent the whole problem then?
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Just let them play online, much better than having multiple players in the Ro16 forfeit.
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While I can sympathize, and see how it sucks, this is pretty much entirely his own fault and I can't help feeling like his manager basically robbed another player of a spot in WCS America. Yeah I do understand hoping you'll get a visa in time, but that's a pretty hopeful thing when you've been staying illegally in USA.
Who you should really feel sorry for are the Chinese players, not Violet.
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America's killing esports
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Welcome to America, the most free country in the world!
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