EPTBalance patch this week - Hellbats nerfed, Banshees buffed…
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EFermi
United States165 Posts
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:22 KawaiiRice wrote: jesus christ not cloakshees........ would rather play vs hellbats I think I speak for all people who are not high masters when I ask you to elaborate. | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:51 Topdoller wrote: I guess Protoss will need to go early Robo v Terran again, or use hallucination more often to scout for proxies Well, the 1 gate into robo is the super standard way to play right now but in WoL for example there was a 3gate timing attack of one base that was designed to a) defend aggression and b) hit a teching terran hard. I remember Parting and HerO throwing it in the mix every now and then to not get predictable in the way they dealt with one base terran. I'm not sure if it's viable in HotS (probably not due to widow mine drops being so popular) but the banshee change alone for example would kill that. Basically the point I'm trying to make is it might restrict protoss to predictable standard play (1 gate robo) too much which in turn can be exploited by crazy builds. This is all theorycrafting though so don't take this as how I think it will play out. | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:54 Wingblade wrote: My meme got deleted, but the idea is the same. Terran had the HIGHEST winrate in May. Not sure what you are looking at. http://aligulac.com/reports/ I meant June. And aligulac is quite horrid and not accepted by anyone. TLPD is much more accurate. | ||
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b0ub0u
Canada445 Posts
They come very early and if we are not on top of things we loose workers and mining time. Terrans were given 2 units that come very early and can completely change an engagement if we are not careful. | ||
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Cheeseling
Ukraine132 Posts
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Taefox
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:54 Wingblade wrote: My meme got deleted, but the idea is the same. Terran had the HIGHEST winrate in May. Not sure what you are looking at. http://aligulac.com/reports/ That counts foreign results as well. Can be disregarded. On July 09 2013 04:01 b0ub0u wrote: lol @ people saying Hellbats were not an issue in TvZ. Maybe at high level but not everyone play pro. I am only diamond but I find it very difficult to deal with burst and splash damage from Hellbats or even Widow Mines. They come very early and if we are not on top of things we loose workers and mining time. Terrans were given 2 units that come very early and can completely change an engagement if we are not careful. The game cannot be balanced around two levels of play at once. Not possible. | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On July 09 2013 04:00 Rhaegal wrote: I meant June. And aligulac is quite horrid and not accepted by anyone. TLPD is much more accurate. Where are TLPD's statistics then? I haven't seen them. And on what basis is Aligulac horrid and not accepted? Because it doesn't support your viewpoint? | ||
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Zoku
307 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:55 Aunvilgod wrote: I think I speak for all people who are not high masters when I ask you to elaborate. Most likely a preference thing for Kawaiirice, but the idea is, in the same way that the hellbat made TvT kinda stupid, the banshee buff will do the same thing. | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On July 09 2013 04:03 Zoku wrote: Most likely a preference thing for Kawaiirice, but the idea is, in the same way that the hellbat made TvT kinda stupid, the banshee buff will do the same thing. Not so sure. Banshees do much less terrible, terrible damage. Or can be shut down so much easier if you will. A turret in each mineral line won't stop hellbats but surely will stop Banshees. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On July 09 2013 04:01 b0ub0u wrote: lol @ people saying Hellbats were not an issue in TvZ. Maybe at high level but not everyone play pro. I am only diamond but I find it very difficult to deal with burst and splash damage from Hellbats or even Widow Mines. They come very early and if we are not on top of things we loose workers and mining time. Terrans were given 2 units that come very early and can completely change an engagement if we are not careful. Not much different from terran getting his army stormed or fungaled without babysitting. All races have its moments of unforgivingness. Game is always balanced around high level of play. Blizzard sometimes helps us lower league players but in most cases if you see fungal you need to react in time to dodge it. If you see a widow mine - same thing. | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
I meant June. And aligulac is quite horrid and not accepted by anyone. TLPD is much more accurate. TLPD current top five: Sen Stephano Socke M00nGLade Nerchio Aligulac current top five: INoVation Life MVP Polt Hyun Anyone who "accepts" that TLPD is somehow more accurate is probably on meth. Does anyone on earth really believe that if the TLPD top 5 played the Aligulac top 5 that they wouldn't be utterly stomped? Because if so, I've got this awesome bridge for sale. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 09 2013 04:02 Wingblade wrote: Where are TLPD's statistics then? I haven't seen them. And on what basis is Aligulac horrid and not accepted? Because it doesn't support your viewpoint? That is how all statistics are validated on TL, by who's view they support. Where have you been? | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On July 09 2013 04:03 Zoku wrote: Most likely a preference thing for Kawaiirice, but the idea is, in the same way that the hellbat made TvT kinda stupid, the banshee buff will do the same thing. Banshees require much more micro, they get shut down easier, are heavier investment and don't deal such a huge damage in seconds. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On July 09 2013 04:05 Plansix wrote: That is how all statistics are validated on TL, by who's view they support. Where have you been? I had suspected as much. I just didn't expect that much bias, I thought TL was way better than that. The worst part is he is using "statistics" that he has yet to even cite. | ||
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