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Sweden107 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:30 Henk wrote: It's only 100 gas - build time is still the same. Just get a spore at the front if you still have problems dealing with it. Mining 100 gas takes time. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:30 Heyoka wrote: Banshee cloak change seems strange to me so we'll see how it plays out. Can't imagine many people being mad about the hellbat change though. the same type of people who were mad when infestors got nerfed | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:01 Bagi wrote: Why on earth would ever transition into mech when mech isn't substantially more powerful and you need a whole different upgrade path for it? We do not have BW tanks in SC2. Bio into air and mech into air are both viable transitions, bio into mech will never happen. I said I want to see it. It's friggin cool. it might | ||
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midnight999
United States257 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:32 VmY wrote: For anyone wondering, I just tried to go for a 1 gas cloak banshee (11 gas/13rax) and when the banshee starts I'm still somewhere between 50 and 70 gas short for 100/100 cloak. That sounds OK. 1 gas cloak banshee seems a bit OP. | ||
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SpeedyBozar
England56 Posts
I am not saying it is a big change. But any buff to air units while Zerg doesn't get any buff to his anti-air is fucking stupid. In the last three months I have seen hundreds of ZvT's and definately more than 70% of Zerg's wins was caused by some kind of all in. | ||
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AwesomeFossum
United States312 Posts
On July 09 2013 02:33 Entirety wrote: Blizzard just nerfed INnoVation! If he's truly a good player, he'll adapt. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
Hellbats still wreck lings, so we'll see how TvZ goes. | ||
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Zoku
307 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:35 SpeedyBozar wrote: It is total bullshit. I have just watched Fantasy vs. Snute today - Fantasy went for a banshee and a viking. Killed 7 overlords with the viking and because Snute didn't go for mutas, he never ever moved out from his base coz he had no anti-air. Zerg has two anti-air somehow decent units. Mutas are so fragile vs. Terran and hydras are just crap unless you go roach hydra which is not cost effective in late game. I am not saying it is a big change. But any buff to air units while Zerg doesn't get any buff to his anti-air is fucking stupid. In the last three months I have seen hundreds of ZvT's and definately more than 70% of Zerg's wins was caused by some kind of all in. queens... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I hear they are pretty good at stuff, including killing banshees. Plus spores. | ||
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TXRaunchy
United States131 Posts
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midnight999
United States257 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:35 SpeedyBozar wrote: It is total bullshit. I have just watched Fantasy vs. Snute today - Fantasy went for a banshee and a viking. Killed 7 overlords with the viking and because Snute didn't go for mutas, he never ever moved out from his base coz he had no anti-air. Zerg has two anti-air somehow decent units. Mutas are so fragile vs. Terran and hydras are just crap unless you go roach hydra which is not cost effective in late game. I am not saying it is a big change. But any buff to air units while Zerg doesn't get any buff to his anti-air is fucking stupid. In the last three months I have seen hundreds of ZvT's and definately more than 70% of Zerg's wins was caused by some kind of all in. Queens? | ||
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mihajovics
179 Posts
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SupaDupaFlyPro
Italy47 Posts
On July 09 2013 02:34 purakushi wrote: My question is if hellbats are going to shoot blue flames after the upgrade. that would be awsome! | ||
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massivez
Belgium653 Posts
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sdnnvs
Brazil33 Posts
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VmY
Netherlands1286 Posts
It's the only thing that matters, really. | ||
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Crow!
United States150 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:13 Clazziquai10 wrote: This may make cloak banshees off 1 gas a real possibility now.  That's probably the biggest impact this patch will have. It's a crazy change because the Hellbat nerf directly makes mech TvP worse, but the cloak cost decrease actually can make mech TvP better as well. In wings of liberty one of the only viable mech TvP openings was cloak banshee into mech, one can hope. And this also sounds weird, but hopefully the cloak cost decrease gives Terran more all-in opportunities vs Protoss, as currently there are very few that can break through the mocore nexus. Overall...don't really like that they weakened Hellbats vs P/Z as they weren't an issue there, it was just TvT that was the problem (although i'm sure Z/P players disagree). | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:36 NotSorry wrote: kind of disappointed, I really liked the hellbat drop style, considering only Inno and Flash were capable of doing it right it obviously wasn't too easy. You missed out NA last hope Drunkenboi. I think he is a "Hellbat master" too if memory serves me correct | ||
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