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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 04 2013 16:10 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 05:58 painkilla wrote:On July 04 2013 05:54 GTPGlitch wrote:On July 04 2013 05:31 Scville wrote:
Azubu Symbol ''...In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''
''In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''
I'm pretty sure those mediocre code s players are better than TLO and Snute.
And why the fuck MVP is only rank 8? Seriously he almost defeated Innovation in a bo5 and Jangbi is rank6 because he won some bo1? Oh my god
And parting isn't in top 10 anymore because he lost a bo1 against Supernova? Jesus Christ.
And while Parting plays against 100x harder opponents and is still 6-4, Taeja is in top 10 because he barely won against TLO and Snute.
Such a joke.
You're taking this waaaaaaay to seriously lol This has no effect on anything, it's just for fun. Stop freaking out and learn to accept the opinions of others~ It should be obvious now that power rank is Proleague power rank with some consolation places for esf players. Not necessarily bad since PL is the only weekly thing. But the criteria should be clear : We put a lot of weights for matchs in PL in this power rank. Well I guess this is true, I do find it really weird that ~75% of the ranking values are based on one tournament. With my job I can never watch proleague, meaning that I have not even seen 50% of the players on this ranking compete in the last month. The other 20% is based on a Bo1 in OSL and then the last 5% of the other ~100 SC2 tournaments that have been happening the last months. That seems kind of stupid to me.
While I agree that Proleague influences the rankings too much, it isn't a result of some inherent bias from the writers. The reason PL has a big impact on the rankings is that it is the most regular high level tournament right now. It's not the highest level tournament (that is WCS KR), but it gives us the most number of games that we can use to gauge the level of the players involved. OSL has only started and has only provided a small sample of games, so it is difficult to use that to measure player's skill over the span of the month. It can only contribute so much to how the rankings have been made. But now that we are in the Ro16 with regular Best of 3s, we should see the OSL results factoring a lot more into the Power Rankings. There aren't many other high level tournaments that occurred in June. To suggest that MLG or Dreamhack is of a higher skill than PL is not believable. Only WCS KR, the WCS Grand Finals, (and GSTL if they make it a serious tournament) can be considered an equal or better test of skill than Proleague right now.
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Only one zerg in top 10...that's something new.
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10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree.
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On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree.
So basically the Power Rankings should just be WCS KR and Proleague Rankings. Polt, Mvp and Taeja deserve their spot on the list, and with how soO, Dear and Stats played at MLG, the gap between KeSPA and the rest of the world really isn't that huge.
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On July 04 2013 16:20 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:10 4ZakeN87 wrote:On July 04 2013 05:58 painkilla wrote:On July 04 2013 05:54 GTPGlitch wrote:On July 04 2013 05:31 Scville wrote:
Azubu Symbol ''...In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''
''In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''
I'm pretty sure those mediocre code s players are better than TLO and Snute.
And why the fuck MVP is only rank 8? Seriously he almost defeated Innovation in a bo5 and Jangbi is rank6 because he won some bo1? Oh my god
And parting isn't in top 10 anymore because he lost a bo1 against Supernova? Jesus Christ.
And while Parting plays against 100x harder opponents and is still 6-4, Taeja is in top 10 because he barely won against TLO and Snute.
Such a joke.
You're taking this waaaaaaay to seriously lol This has no effect on anything, it's just for fun. Stop freaking out and learn to accept the opinions of others~ It should be obvious now that power rank is Proleague power rank with some consolation places for esf players. Not necessarily bad since PL is the only weekly thing. But the criteria should be clear : We put a lot of weights for matchs in PL in this power rank. Well I guess this is true, I do find it really weird that ~75% of the ranking values are based on one tournament. With my job I can never watch proleague, meaning that I have not even seen 50% of the players on this ranking compete in the last month. The other 20% is based on a Bo1 in OSL and then the last 5% of the other ~100 SC2 tournaments that have been happening the last months. That seems kind of stupid to me. While I agree that Proleague influences the rankings too much, it isn't a result of some inherent bias from the writers. The reason PL has a big impact on the rankings is that it is the most regular high level tournament right now. It's not the highest level tournament (that is WCS KR), but it gives us the most number of games that we can use to gauge the level of the players involved. OSL has only started and has only provided a small sample of games, so it is difficult to use that to measure player's skill over the span of the month. It can only contribute so much to how the rankings have been made. But now that we are in the Ro16 with regular Best of 3s, we should see the OSL results factoring a lot more into the Power Rankings. There aren't many other high level tournaments that occurred in June. To suggest that MLG or Dreamhack is of a higher skill than PL is not believable. Only WCS KR, the WCS Grand Finals, (and GSTL if they make it a serious tournament) can be considered an equal or better test of skill than Proleague right now.
Still it seems weird that ~95% of the ranking is based on tournaments that require you to be living in Korea.
I think this MLG for instance showed that the KESPA players are not necessarily so god-like as people like to think, KESPA have the strongest players in general but still in this MLG their 3 qualified players got beat several times by both different foreigners and ESF players. Maybe something to have in mind before basing 75% of the rankings on a KESPA only tournament...
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On July 04 2013 16:38 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree. So basically the Power Rankings should just be WCS KR and Proleague Rankings. Polt, Mvp and Taeja deserve their spot on the list, and with how soO, Dear and Stats played at MLG, the gap between KeSPA and the rest of the world really isn't that huge.
I don't know man. You guys know how I feel already about special events and Western Tournaments so whateves. What can you do about it. At least they mention Symbol & I guess you guys sort of have to give a nod to Stardust once again. Watchagoingdoaboutit. `\('.')/`
On July 04 2013 16:39 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:20 lichter wrote:On July 04 2013 16:10 4ZakeN87 wrote:On July 04 2013 05:58 painkilla wrote:On July 04 2013 05:54 GTPGlitch wrote:On July 04 2013 05:31 Scville wrote:
Azubu Symbol ''...In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''
''In the OSL Ro32, though he eventually made it through, it was the same story as last month, as he only beat mediocre players in ZvZ to do so.''
I'm pretty sure those mediocre code s players are better than TLO and Snute.
And why the fuck MVP is only rank 8? Seriously he almost defeated Innovation in a bo5 and Jangbi is rank6 because he won some bo1? Oh my god
And parting isn't in top 10 anymore because he lost a bo1 against Supernova? Jesus Christ.
And while Parting plays against 100x harder opponents and is still 6-4, Taeja is in top 10 because he barely won against TLO and Snute.
Such a joke.
You're taking this waaaaaaay to seriously lol This has no effect on anything, it's just for fun. Stop freaking out and learn to accept the opinions of others~ It should be obvious now that power rank is Proleague power rank with some consolation places for esf players. Not necessarily bad since PL is the only weekly thing. But the criteria should be clear : We put a lot of weights for matchs in PL in this power rank. Well I guess this is true, I do find it really weird that ~75% of the ranking values are based on one tournament. With my job I can never watch proleague, meaning that I have not even seen 50% of the players on this ranking compete in the last month. The other 20% is based on a Bo1 in OSL and then the last 5% of the other ~100 SC2 tournaments that have been happening the last months. That seems kind of stupid to me. While I agree that Proleague influences the rankings too much, it isn't a result of some inherent bias from the writers. The reason PL has a big impact on the rankings is that it is the most regular high level tournament right now. It's not the highest level tournament (that is WCS KR), but it gives us the most number of games that we can use to gauge the level of the players involved. OSL has only started and has only provided a small sample of games, so it is difficult to use that to measure player's skill over the span of the month. It can only contribute so much to how the rankings have been made. But now that we are in the Ro16 with regular Best of 3s, we should see the OSL results factoring a lot more into the Power Rankings. There aren't many other high level tournaments that occurred in June. To suggest that MLG or Dreamhack is of a higher skill than PL is not believable. Only WCS KR, the WCS Grand Finals, (and GSTL if they make it a serious tournament) can be considered an equal or better test of skill than Proleague right now. Still it seems weird that ~95% of the ranking is based on tournaments that require you to be living in Korea. I think this MLG for instance showed that the KESPA players are not necessarily so god-like as people like to think, KESPA have the strongest players in general but still in this MLG their 3 qualified players got beat several times by both different foreigners and ESF players. Maybe something to have in mind before basing 75% of the rankings on a KESPA only tournament...
How is that at all weird? Let's throw random numbers shall we? 95% of the competition is in Korea. Watchoogoingtodoaboutit. `\('.')/' Your talking about Soo, Stats and Dear as if they won any individual tournaments before let alone competed overseas. Nah man, there are a lot of other variables in play and I'd say the Western Koreans or anyone with experience at Western LANs should be more used to it. Other than Code B and the first time they took a stab at Courage in BW. They're just not used to that kind of format. Shits bound to happen. MLGs, HSC's are a different cup of tea and should be treated as such. It's kind of funny because my argument supporting your behalf would be, "well, shit. There just weren't that many players let alone landmines in the last MLG for them." It's like stepping back in time when a certain few individuals went far. That wasn't a very good performance by the KeSPA boys. No denying it. They flunked the test. Next time I'd like to see more players & better results.
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On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree.
Yeah, KESPA all the way. Why not take the top 10 ranking of PL and be done with it.
Here you go, the 10 best SC2 players in the world nice and easy, just copy-paste PL statistic page:
1:Flash
2:Rain
3:INnoVation
4:sOs
5:Hydra
6: Zest
7:Roro
8:herO
9:Effort
10:Soulkey
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On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.
BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!!
this explains the meaning of life^
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Hm interesting choices... Not sure I have any comments in particular beyond that. There sure is a lot of discussion about this, to be sure.
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On July 04 2013 16:44 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree. Yeah, KESPA all the way. Why not take the top 10 ranking of PL and be done with it. Here you go, the 10 best SC2 players in the world nice and easy, just copy-paste PL statistic page: 1:Flash 2:Rain 3:INnoVation 4:sOs 5:Hydra 6: Zest 7:Roro 8:herO 9:Effort 10:Soulkey
Hydra #1 zerg gogo
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On July 04 2013 16:47 asdfOu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.
BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!! this explains the meaning of life^
I'm still not entirely sold on MVP.
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On July 04 2013 16:50 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:47 asdfOu wrote:On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.
BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!! this explains the meaning of life^ I'm still not entirely sold on MVP.
When you consider the opportunities Mvp's actually had to play recently, which is literally only WCS EU, WCS Finals, and a go4sc2 cup, I'd say he's pretty much made the most out of them.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 04 2013 16:44 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree. Yeah, KESPA all the way. Why not take the top 10 ranking of PL and be done with it. Here you go, the 10 best SC2 players in the world nice and easy, just copy-paste PL statistic page: 1:Flash 2:Rain 3:INnoVation 4:sOs 5:Hydra 6: Zest 7:Roro 8:herO 9:Effort 10:Soulkey
Anyone who thinks Hydra, Zest, RorO, herO and EffOrt are among the Top20 players are delusional.
Why are you so butthurt about their methodology anyway? Fact is, Proleague has more games. People will value someone who is 20-5 much more than someone who is 5-1.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 04 2013 16:50 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:47 asdfOu wrote:On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.
BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!! this explains the meaning of life^ I'm still not entirely sold on MVP.
I'M STILL NOT ENTIRELY SOLD ON YOUR SANITY
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On July 04 2013 16:59 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:44 4ZakeN87 wrote:On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree. Yeah, KESPA all the way. Why not take the top 10 ranking of PL and be done with it. Here you go, the 10 best SC2 players in the world nice and easy, just copy-paste PL statistic page: 1:Flash 2:Rain 3:INnoVation 4:sOs 5:Hydra 6: Zest 7:Roro 8:herO 9:Effort 10:Soulkey Anyone who thinks Hydra, Zest, RorO, herO and EffOrt are among the Top20 players are delusional. Why are you so butthurt about their methodology anyway? Fact is, Proleague has more games. People will value someone who is 20-5 much more than someone who is 5-1.
lichter, you're confusing me. You say that Proleague is a valid way to evaluate players' performances in SC2, but precede that by saying #s 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 in Proleague (as of Round 5) are clearly not top 20?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 04 2013 17:03 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:59 lichter wrote:On July 04 2013 16:44 4ZakeN87 wrote:On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree. Yeah, KESPA all the way. Why not take the top 10 ranking of PL and be done with it. Here you go, the 10 best SC2 players in the world nice and easy, just copy-paste PL statistic page: 1:Flash 2:Rain 3:INnoVation 4:sOs 5:Hydra 6: Zest 7:Roro 8:herO 9:Effort 10:Soulkey Anyone who thinks Hydra, Zest, RorO, herO and EffOrt are among the Top20 players are delusional. Why are you so butthurt about their methodology anyway? Fact is, Proleague has more games. People will value someone who is 20-5 much more than someone who is 5-1. lichter, you're confusing me. You say that Proleague is a valid way to evaluate players' performances in SC2, but precede that by saying #s 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 in Proleague (as of Round 5) are clearly not top 20?
That list includes Wings of Liberty games, which is irrelevant to today's power rank because this is a different game. Also, form during the last two months is important. Those players have been pretty crummy in the HoTS rounds. I still laugh when I see Hydra is the best zerg, because as I mentioned earlier that is totes a sack of zergballs
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On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree.
Why do some people keep pretending that Polt won MLG against foreigners only? There were 3-4 Kespa players, who got there after winning a stacked Kespa qualifier (that many Kespa fans said "might as well replace the whole tournament " lololol), and those players were pooped on by either Polt or another low-level foreigner from Sweden. Why do people like to ignore data when it goes against their bias?
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On July 04 2013 16:55 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:50 StarStruck wrote:On July 04 2013 16:47 asdfOu wrote:On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.
BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!! this explains the meaning of life^ I'm still not entirely sold on MVP. When you consider the opportunities Mvp's actually had to play recently, which is literally only WCS EU, WCS Finals, and a go4sc2 cup, I'd say he's pretty much made the most out of them.
That's sort of my point. Way, way, way too limited & that's why it's hard to measure him. I need to see a lot more from him against top level competition. The games against Innovation wasn't enough for me. I don't even feel like talking about the forGG games or group stage of that WCS Finals either. I have serious doubts.
On July 04 2013 17:10 painkilla wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:26 408xParadox wrote:
10. Taeja: Won HSC7 and got deep at Dreamhack? Stomped some foreigners and gets #10 over Symbol who is top 16 in the OSL right now, and has had multiple deep runs in the last three GSL's?
9. Polt: Wins an MLG against foreigners, why is he considered?
8. Mvp: Even the description says why he shouldn't be top 10.
7. Fantasy: I actually agree with this one. (Before the games against First.) RO16 OSL and tearing up Proleague.
6. Jangbi: Tearing up Proleague, but didn't make RO16 in the OSL, could be top 10, but definitely not #6. More along the lines of a 9 or 10.
5. sOs: Totally agree.
4. Rain: Totally agree
3. Flash: Totally agree.
2. Soulkey: Totally agree.
1. INnoVation: Totally agree. Why do some people keep pretending that Polt won MLG against foreigners only? There were 3-4 Kespa players, who got there after winning a stacked Kespa qualifier (that many Kespa fans said "might as well replace the whole tournament " lololol), and those players were pooped on by either Polt or another low-level foreigner from Sweden. Why do people like to ignore data when it goes against their bias?
Small sample; not as many landmines; like I said earlier Soo, Stats, Dear have a bad track record when it comes to individual tournaments; these guys don't travel overseas; foreign format to them; etc. At the end of the day the Koreans on Western teams have a slight advantage when it comes to these type of experiences. The other guys are sort of oblivious to it. This MLG had a very retro feel to it. Nothing like the last few and it's a very small sample size like I said before.
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On July 04 2013 16:50 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 16:47 asdfOu wrote:On July 04 2013 05:20 Yonnua wrote:
Mvp narrowly loses to Innovation in WCS semis, nearly takes him out, certainly coming closer than anybody else at that tournament. Eighth place.
BUT JANGBI AND FANTASY DID REALLY WELL IN PROLEAGUE GUYS!!! this explains the meaning of life^ I'm still not entirely sold on MVP.
All the players that Mvp beat in WCS Finals (Ryung, Kangho, forGG) are way better than your average Kespa
players, which again are the source of most wins (hence power rank points) for your favorite Kespa players (Flash, Rain, Fantasy etc). That and the close series with Innovation.
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Greatr read, love the power ranks!
Hoping for some competition for the #1 spot in the next edition, crossing my fingers for a sick Flash month ;-)
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