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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19295 Posts
June 10 2013 00:28 GMT
#41
I will never give up my [shield] tag! Fanboy whaiting!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
June 10 2013 00:35 GMT
#42
IMO I think Blizzard should take the time to address these type of tickets. They should just give them the tag if they can prove they have a significant organization in the sc2 scene. I also think that if a group of friends got that tag first and do play the game (even if its team games once in a while), they should have the final say.

No automatic system. Just people making use of their judgement would easily fix this issue.
Try another route paperboy.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
June 10 2013 00:53 GMT
#43
That's one thing about the SC2 community that I never liked, so many lame tryhard people that put you on ignore. You own them on ladder, they call you a cheesy fag and leave the game, you wanna trashtalk back and challenge for a regame and they just dodge and ignore you...

Like 10 years ago me and some homies from highschool made a broodwar clan. All was fine and dandy until one day suddenly other people with the same tag where hanging out in our clan chat channel and claimed it for them.
Trashtalk ensued and after maybe an hour shit got real and there was to be a clanwar for the right to the chat channel.
I called some friends that weren't online:
"Yo man, get your ass on bnet."
"I have homework to do, my mom will kill me."
"Dude we have to slay these nerds right now, for the fatherland!"
The clanwar started and it was really close because we were mostly normal map players and they fmp players so we played on both maps, but in the end we won, they accepted their defeat and the chat channel was ours again.

That's how situations like this should be resolved but sadly too many dodging nerds are around these days.

Sorry for offtopic, just got hit by a massive nostalgia bomb
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 10 2013 00:55 GMT
#44
We want to have a very professional tag like LaG and not lLaGl because it makes us look slow and not fast enough to pick up that name.

but isnt it true that you were slow and no fast enough to pick up the name? lol
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
June 10 2013 00:58 GMT
#45
On June 10 2013 09:06 Cinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 09:01 Windows 7 wrote:
That is quite stupid, nobody will remember logging in for 3 minutes just to keep a clan tag, unless as the previous one said someone intends to bother somebody.


If they can't be bothered to log on to actually use the tag, why should they be entitled to it? It doesn't have to be three minutes a day, the specifics are arbitrary. There should be some sort of practice, though.

Having clans expire due to inactivity will have far more negative impacts than positive ones.


What are the negative impacts here?


You forget that these clans also have a lot of members, and they will be dissolved if you choose to abandon a clan. Also, some clans are quite small, and just because you have a break from the game does not make them any less entitled to keep that tag, maybe they have used it for ages as well. TaG isn't pro, so it doesn't serve the community anything to give them their tag, unless the other clan which is holding their tag is simply a troll. That is the reason why blizzard most likely reserved tags for the pro teams, because it has benefits for the community and eSports, while an amateur team having their tag does not.

Also, you could have used the tag on battlenet for two years(eventually) and then because you're not on for a short time, you lose it. It's simply not worth the time for blizzard to make these changes, even if it's a simple one.


WC3 had a clan decay system.

Don't log in for a few weeks? its gone
Herper
Profile Joined January 2011
501 Posts
June 10 2013 01:02 GMT
#46
I don't agree with it. They got it first and should keep it, even if they were bronze players. But, blizzard could put a 1 year inactivity for the clan members. Meaning if not a single member logs in for 1 year, it would be deleted.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
June 10 2013 01:04 GMT
#47
On June 10 2013 10:02 Herper wrote:
I don't agree with it. They got it first and should keep it, even if they were bronze players. But, blizzard could put a 1 year inactivity for the clan members. Meaning if not a single member logs in for 1 year, it would be deleted.


1 year is a bit too long =D. 1 month seems reasonable if EVERY single member does not log on.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 10 2013 01:05 GMT
#48
Why should a tag be unique? Names aren't.
I had a good night of sleep.
aNGryaRchon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States438 Posts
June 10 2013 01:18 GMT
#49
I have to agree with this
Power overwhelming!!!
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
June 10 2013 01:20 GMT
#50
On June 10 2013 10:05 Koshi wrote:
Why should a tag be unique? Names aren't.


inb4 50 different EG's, its a terrible idea lol
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
June 10 2013 01:22 GMT
#51
While I agree the idea (but post on TL prob won't help it much), OP's situation has little to do with it. Unless clean leader being a dbag or clan leader being inactive is a valid reason to scrap a whole clan, I don't get how it would help OP in anyway.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 10 2013 04:14 GMT
#52
On June 10 2013 10:22 ragz_gt wrote:
While I agree the idea (but post on TL prob won't help it much), OP's situation has little to do with it. Unless clean leader being a dbag or clan leader being inactive is a valid reason to scrap a whole clan, I don't get how it would help OP in anyway.

You see, TL tends to get more feedback then Bnet forums. I've tried before on them and they just get pushed down without bumps or replies from mods.
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
June 10 2013 04:20 GMT
#53
On June 10 2013 09:06 Cinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 09:01 Windows 7 wrote:
That is quite stupid, nobody will remember logging in for 3 minutes just to keep a clan tag, unless as the previous one said someone intends to bother somebody.


If they can't be bothered to log on to actually use the tag, why should they be entitled to it? It doesn't have to be three minutes a day, the specifics are arbitrary. There should be some sort of practice, though.

Having clans expire due to inactivity will have far more negative impacts than positive ones.


What are the negative impacts here?


You forget that these clans also have a lot of members, and they will be dissolved if you choose to abandon a clan. Also, some clans are quite small, and just because you have a break from the game does not make them any less entitled to keep that tag, maybe they have used it for ages as well. TaG isn't pro, so it doesn't serve the community anything to give them their tag, unless the other clan which is holding their tag is simply a troll. That is the reason why blizzard most likely reserved tags for the pro teams, because it has benefits for the community and eSports, while an amateur team having their tag does not.

Also, you could have used the tag on battlenet for two years(eventually) and then because you're not on for a short time, you lose it. It's simply not worth the time for blizzard to make these changes, even if it's a simple one.


>If you abandon a clan

If you abandon the clan, you shouldn't deserve to be the owner anyway. What kind of counter logic is that? If a player cannot remain active and doesn't bother to at least log in to check on his beloved clan, then he shouldn't be able to keep it.

You also shouldn't have to pay money to the person currently owning it (as another poster recommended). That's beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned.
Death comes in many forms
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 10 2013 04:21 GMT
#54
On June 10 2013 13:20 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 09:06 Cinim wrote:
On June 10 2013 09:01 Windows 7 wrote:
That is quite stupid, nobody will remember logging in for 3 minutes just to keep a clan tag, unless as the previous one said someone intends to bother somebody.


If they can't be bothered to log on to actually use the tag, why should they be entitled to it? It doesn't have to be three minutes a day, the specifics are arbitrary. There should be some sort of practice, though.

Having clans expire due to inactivity will have far more negative impacts than positive ones.


What are the negative impacts here?


You forget that these clans also have a lot of members, and they will be dissolved if you choose to abandon a clan. Also, some clans are quite small, and just because you have a break from the game does not make them any less entitled to keep that tag, maybe they have used it for ages as well. TaG isn't pro, so it doesn't serve the community anything to give them their tag, unless the other clan which is holding their tag is simply a troll. That is the reason why blizzard most likely reserved tags for the pro teams, because it has benefits for the community and eSports, while an amateur team having their tag does not.

Also, you could have used the tag on battlenet for two years(eventually) and then because you're not on for a short time, you lose it. It's simply not worth the time for blizzard to make these changes, even if it's a simple one.


>If you abandon a clan

If you abandon the clan, you shouldn't deserve to be the owner anyway. What kind of counter logic is that? If a player cannot remain active and doesn't bother to at least log in to check on his beloved clan, then he shouldn't be able to keep it.

You also shouldn't have to pay money to the person currently owning it (as another poster recommended). That's beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned.

Actually if we had contact with him, we would definitely be willing to pay money....
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
June 10 2013 04:25 GMT
#55
On June 10 2013 13:21 Xonix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 13:20 Shin_Gouki wrote:
On June 10 2013 09:06 Cinim wrote:
On June 10 2013 09:01 Windows 7 wrote:
That is quite stupid, nobody will remember logging in for 3 minutes just to keep a clan tag, unless as the previous one said someone intends to bother somebody.


If they can't be bothered to log on to actually use the tag, why should they be entitled to it? It doesn't have to be three minutes a day, the specifics are arbitrary. There should be some sort of practice, though.

Having clans expire due to inactivity will have far more negative impacts than positive ones.


What are the negative impacts here?


You forget that these clans also have a lot of members, and they will be dissolved if you choose to abandon a clan. Also, some clans are quite small, and just because you have a break from the game does not make them any less entitled to keep that tag, maybe they have used it for ages as well. TaG isn't pro, so it doesn't serve the community anything to give them their tag, unless the other clan which is holding their tag is simply a troll. That is the reason why blizzard most likely reserved tags for the pro teams, because it has benefits for the community and eSports, while an amateur team having their tag does not.

Also, you could have used the tag on battlenet for two years(eventually) and then because you're not on for a short time, you lose it. It's simply not worth the time for blizzard to make these changes, even if it's a simple one.


>If you abandon a clan

If you abandon the clan, you shouldn't deserve to be the owner anyway. What kind of counter logic is that? If a player cannot remain active and doesn't bother to at least log in to check on his beloved clan, then he shouldn't be able to keep it.

You also shouldn't have to pay money to the person currently owning it (as another poster recommended). That's beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned.

Actually if we had contact with him, we would definitely be willing to pay money....


It's great and all you're willing to pay, but that still shouldn't be necessary.
Death comes in many forms
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 10 2013 04:27 GMT
#56
On June 10 2013 13:25 Shin_Gouki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 13:21 Xonix wrote:
On June 10 2013 13:20 Shin_Gouki wrote:
On June 10 2013 09:06 Cinim wrote:
On June 10 2013 09:01 Windows 7 wrote:
That is quite stupid, nobody will remember logging in for 3 minutes just to keep a clan tag, unless as the previous one said someone intends to bother somebody.


If they can't be bothered to log on to actually use the tag, why should they be entitled to it? It doesn't have to be three minutes a day, the specifics are arbitrary. There should be some sort of practice, though.

Having clans expire due to inactivity will have far more negative impacts than positive ones.


What are the negative impacts here?


You forget that these clans also have a lot of members, and they will be dissolved if you choose to abandon a clan. Also, some clans are quite small, and just because you have a break from the game does not make them any less entitled to keep that tag, maybe they have used it for ages as well. TaG isn't pro, so it doesn't serve the community anything to give them their tag, unless the other clan which is holding their tag is simply a troll. That is the reason why blizzard most likely reserved tags for the pro teams, because it has benefits for the community and eSports, while an amateur team having their tag does not.

Also, you could have used the tag on battlenet for two years(eventually) and then because you're not on for a short time, you lose it. It's simply not worth the time for blizzard to make these changes, even if it's a simple one.


>If you abandon a clan

If you abandon the clan, you shouldn't deserve to be the owner anyway. What kind of counter logic is that? If a player cannot remain active and doesn't bother to at least log in to check on his beloved clan, then he shouldn't be able to keep it.

You also shouldn't have to pay money to the person currently owning it (as another poster recommended). That's beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned.

Actually if we had contact with him, we would definitely be willing to pay money....


It's great and all you're willing to pay, but that still shouldn't be necessary.

Idk I just want the tag back. Do I really want my players to represent us at MLG Anaheim with lLaGl?
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 04:32:06
June 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#57
On June 10 2013 09:53 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
That's one thing about the SC2 community that I never liked, so many lame tryhard people that put you on ignore. You own them on ladder, they call you a cheesy fag and leave the game, you wanna trashtalk back and challenge for a regame and they just dodge and ignore you...

Like 10 years ago me and some homies from highschool made a broodwar clan. All was fine and dandy until one day suddenly other people with the same tag where hanging out in our clan chat channel and claimed it for them.
Trashtalk ensued and after maybe an hour shit got real and there was to be a clanwar for the right to the chat channel.
I called some friends that weren't online:
"Yo man, get your ass on bnet."
"I have homework to do, my mom will kill me."
"Dude we have to slay these nerds right now, for the fatherland!"
The clanwar started and it was really close because we were mostly normal map players and they fmp players so we played on both maps, but in the end we won, they accepted their defeat and the chat channel was ours again.

That's how situations like this should be resolved but sadly too many dodging nerds are around these days.

Sorry for offtopic, just got hit by a massive nostalgia bomb


That's an awesome story. Clanwar for channel ownership. :D Glad you guys won in the end ><
So many things SC2 is lacking that BW did well (whether intentional or not). sigh
T P Z sagi
Rainling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States456 Posts
June 10 2013 04:32 GMT
#58
Makes sense to me!
Moa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 04:42:22
June 10 2013 04:36 GMT
#59
You're telling me that you let someone who nobody in your organization has the ability to contact holds control of your tag.

I agree that there should be some form of activity requirement for holding a tag, though I think it should be much longer than a few months.

if the only way you have to contact people within your organization is through b.net then the problem lies with your team rather than the b.net.
^O^
Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 10 2013 04:38 GMT
#60
On June 10 2013 13:36 Moa wrote:
You're telling me that you let someone who nobody in your organization has the ability to contact hold control of your tag.

I agree that there should be some form of activity requirement for holding a tag, though I think it should be much longer than a few months.

if the only way you have to contact people within your organization is through b.net then the problem lies with your team rather than the b.net.

Um I'm not quite positive what this post is implying. The guy who owns LAG (LAGSHACK) is in now way affiliated with LaG Gaming
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