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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
June 10 2013 15:38 GMT
#101
This would be nice. I suppose if a clan was inactive for an entire season I see no right for them to keep their clan tag, especially if another active clan would want it.

But then again it is first come, first served and if you really wanted that clan tag then you should have been the first one to get it in the first place.
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 10 2013 15:40 GMT
#102
There are three points to be made here, and not all of them are original.

First, casuals want clans too. Your off-hand proposal would eliminate the clan me and my friends owns because we meet once every few months to play team games, and other fun stuff. We generally don't play unless we are all in the same room together. We're old, but we would still like to keep our clan name. So, think of a better solution.

Second, why don't you name yourself Super Team Illustrious Marines [STIM] or whatever pleases you? As you're not known in SC2, why cannot you choose another name?

Third, you kinda' are known in SC2 now. You're the clan that was too slow to register their clan name. I'm sure this notoriety will bring you great fame and sponsors in the future.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
kaos00
Profile Joined September 2010
United States125 Posts
June 10 2013 15:46 GMT
#103
On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:
When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again.


This is so counter intuitive. Can't wrap my head around this concept.

But anyway, if you're a professional team. I find it much more professional to have your clan tag in your ID anyway... why not do this?
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 15:49:31
June 10 2013 15:46 GMT
#104
We want to have a very professional tag like LaG and not lLaGl because it makes us look slow and not fast enough to pick up that name.


This made me laugh a little Because of you clan name... you're not fast enough... Not surprising with that name... get it ? no ? oh ok...

But anyway... I think Blizzard should make your name back because you have proof that you are a legit gaming organization. But for the inactive thing... I don't know... Maybe but defintly not over a period of time. In Wow there is no "inactive guild" thing and there is pro teams in WoW. And same thing apply to website (hi microsoft !). It's a pain in the ass to get something back like this.

I just think that you can take it back if you adress to blizzard with every proof you have. Seeds for MLG, Website, roster etc...

Maybe contacting a personality that can talk to blizzard about this. A reporter ? Try to look for people that will have talk with blizzard in the future.

But as someone said early. Have your clan name in your ID name.
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Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
June 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#105

Roughly 2 months inactive.(

2 months is not that long to be honest. I wouldn't want to lose my clan tag for not playing SC2 for 2 months. It's just silly. At least half a year is more reasonable.
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FosTA
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada154 Posts
June 10 2013 15:49 GMT
#106
This has also happened with Pulse Esports on the EU server. There is 1 person in the clan that hasnt played a game in a long long time.
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eXeLongShot
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7 Posts
June 10 2013 15:54 GMT
#107
This is a great idea, i'm sure everyone who reads this post will think the same as well.

Unfortunately, blizzard has shown in WoW, D3, and SC2 that even simple updates take FOREVER. They also have this weird idea that it's wrong to make small updates individually. So, chances are they're going to wait until the next huge patch, which will then be more and more months away.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
June 10 2013 15:56 GMT
#108
You have no more right to the clan tag than anyone else, and since they were first, and that's all that matters, it's theirs. You actually had it reported several times ? WTF is that ? Sorry, the world doesn't revolve around you, better to find out over something small like this, I suppose. Perhaps you are be creative enough to find a different suitable clan tag.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
June 10 2013 15:59 GMT
#109
On June 10 2013 04:26 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Look back in Brood War times for example, they had a inactive account policy that after x amount of time it would be deleted or if you didnt have/get x amount of games in x amount of time the account was to be deleted.

I have touched brood war since 2008 roughly (other than some random 1;1 games out of boredom once a year on a fake account), but yet my main accounts are still active after 3 years.

The reason I say this, is because Blizzard has always said one thing but yet doesnt really follow through on it to the fullest extent.

Honestly, I think if you actually got a huge following with a backing on this IE TL/Reddit maybe a petition online they potentially may implement some changes to it.



I think old "deleted" bnet accounts/characters weren't erased until someone else requested the name
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 10 2013 16:00 GMT
#110
Inactive clans should maybe lose their tag, but not until after 6 months to a year
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
AndaGalant
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany42 Posts
June 10 2013 16:02 GMT
#111
Well, I think there would be an relative easy solution.
I think blizzard should implement a system, that only let u create a clan with lets say at least 5 persons. That would solve a lot of thinks:
1. There would be no Clan Tag stealer/ One man Army Clan dudes
2. It would make clans = CLANS, meaning of teams equal to a bunch of persons, not only 1 or 2 ;D

For the existing clans I would recommend, to disband every 1 man clans AND if a clan has like 2-3 guys and lets say a clan with 3 member loses 2 member except the clan owner, it will automatically disband the clan, since there is only one person left =/= clan
Thats my opinion
AwM
Profile Joined November 2012
United States80 Posts
June 10 2013 16:42 GMT
#112
On June 11 2013 01:02 AndaGalant wrote:
Well, I think there would be an relative easy solution.
I think blizzard should implement a system, that only let u create a clan with lets say at least 5 persons. That would solve a lot of thinks:
1. There would be no Clan Tag stealer/ One man Army Clan dudes
2. It would make clans = CLANS, meaning of teams equal to a bunch of persons, not only 1 or 2 ;D

For the existing clans I would recommend, to disband every 1 man clans AND if a clan has like 2-3 guys and lets say a clan with 3 member loses 2 member except the clan owner, it will automatically disband the clan, since there is only one person left =/= clan
Thats my opinion

I don't think there should be a requirement on the amount of people that would be needed. Like, what is wrong with One man army clans, or just a pair of friends that wanted to be in a clan? If a 1MA wants a clan that he self represents, let him. Hell, isn't Grubby in a 1MA with [Grubby]?
Every time you read this a SCV dies.
theman1213
Profile Joined December 2012
France15 Posts
June 10 2013 16:58 GMT
#113
On June 11 2013 01:42 AwM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 01:02 AndaGalant wrote:
Well, I think there would be an relative easy solution.
I think blizzard should implement a system, that only let u create a clan with lets say at least 5 persons. That would solve a lot of thinks:
1. There would be no Clan Tag stealer/ One man Army Clan dudes
2. It would make clans = CLANS, meaning of teams equal to a bunch of persons, not only 1 or 2 ;D

For the existing clans I would recommend, to disband every 1 man clans AND if a clan has like 2-3 guys and lets say a clan with 3 member loses 2 member except the clan owner, it will automatically disband the clan, since there is only one person left =/= clan
Thats my opinion

I don't think there should be a requirement on the amount of people that would be needed. Like, what is wrong with One man army clans, or just a pair of friends that wanted to be in a clan? If a 1MA wants a clan that he self represents, let him. Hell, isn't Grubby in a 1MA with [Grubby]?


Yea, Grubby is a pro, what do u say about 1MA Bronzees?
Could u please define the word clan for me, i dont think that ONE person = clan, but dunno.
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
June 10 2013 17:29 GMT
#114
On June 11 2013 00:19 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 00:08 vNmMasterT wrote:
You were late. Deal with it. That guy has as much right as you to that clan tag.

As other people have said, offer him some money if you really want the tag that badly. We are not your personal army.



pretty much this.

You cant have something back, if you never owned it.

IDK whole thread seems silly, basically you are trying to say you have a right to own this clan tag, because of your amateur team's history...which isnt the case.

also ur concern/worry about sponsor's caring about your clan tag seems pretty silly... if you are having issues getting sponsors... more likely its because they lack interest at all, not because they dislike your clan tag.

That doesn't have anything to do with the thread at all. The problem here isn't whether or not organizations are entitled to the tags, but rather are people who are inactive have the right to keep a clan tag. Would you still be oft he same opinion if the same guy, by himself, sat on the tag for another 2 months? What if he sat on it for a year?

Like someone on fnatic said, the person who made the actual fnatic tag hasn't played a game since HotS came out and seemingly doesn't have any ties to the team.

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Does he still deserve it more than the actual pro and known organization?
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 19:43:37
June 10 2013 19:38 GMT
#115
None of your members could be bothered to try to register the clan name as soon as clan names were available?

How many members do you have? and none of them could do it?

When I had to make my custom map name in SC2 WoL release date, I purposely went to midnight launch, got the game, drove back and installed ASAP

first thing i do? upload the custom map to register the map names that I wanted at like few minutes after midnight of the launch

If clan name was so important to your clan, why could none of your members be diligent enough to try to get the name ASAP?

Like another poster also showed, your LAG clan was inactive for 4 months....so....he is gone for 1 month, and now you want to take his clan name

Just sayin'
AwM
Profile Joined November 2012
United States80 Posts
June 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#116
On June 11 2013 01:58 theman1213 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 01:42 AwM wrote:
On June 11 2013 01:02 AndaGalant wrote:
Well, I think there would be an relative easy solution.
I think blizzard should implement a system, that only let u create a clan with lets say at least 5 persons. That would solve a lot of thinks:
1. There would be no Clan Tag stealer/ One man Army Clan dudes
2. It would make clans = CLANS, meaning of teams equal to a bunch of persons, not only 1 or 2 ;D

For the existing clans I would recommend, to disband every 1 man clans AND if a clan has like 2-3 guys and lets say a clan with 3 member loses 2 member except the clan owner, it will automatically disband the clan, since there is only one person left =/= clan
Thats my opinion

I don't think there should be a requirement on the amount of people that would be needed. Like, what is wrong with One man army clans, or just a pair of friends that wanted to be in a clan? If a 1MA wants a clan that he self represents, let him. Hell, isn't Grubby in a 1MA with [Grubby]?


Yea, Grubby is a pro, what do u say about 1MA Bronzees?
Could u please define the word clan for me, i dont think that ONE person = clan, but dunno.

Why should a pro be more privileged than a bronze when it comes to clans? Odds are if he is a bronze he won't be taking any super serious clan tags anyways. There could be a restriction on creating a clan, like, being the owner to at least silver if you were trying to prevent 1MA bronzes. And with the definition of clan, it is a large group of people. (I checked to make sure large was in there.) I don't know any game like where you have to have X amount of people in a clan. I was actually thinking of leaving my current clan since it's no longer active and making a 1MA tag as a joke with my name. I just feel that 5 people would be too restrictive.
Every time you read this a SCV dies.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
June 10 2013 20:36 GMT
#117
It appears like you missed a word here, so not entirely sure what you were intending to say, but take for instance WoW where you were required to have several people sign a charter to start a guild (not sure if this is still in place). Many other MMORPGs if not requiring multiple people, may require a sum of money to start the guild, which generally speaking if all players are new and the game was fresh, would require several players pooling their available money together in order to start the guild. I think requiring multiple people could be a necessary condition to create a clan, but not a requirement to keep the clan active (if I have a clan and we have a big falling out, I may want to keep the name but attempt to rebuild the clan from scratch).

I don't mind the idea of clan tags being relinquished, but only if were an appropriate amount of time to assume players were not coming back or don't care enough to keep the tag (for instance someone from the clan must login at least once every 3 months to keep the tag, otherwise it would be considered inactive and the name/tag would be free to use).
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
AwM
Profile Joined November 2012
United States80 Posts
June 10 2013 20:45 GMT
#118
On June 11 2013 05:36 Battleaxe wrote:
It appears like you missed a word here, so not entirely sure what you were intending to say, but take for instance WoW where you were required to have several people sign a charter to start a guild (not sure if this is still in place). Many other MMORPGs if not requiring multiple people, may require a sum of money to start the guild, which generally speaking if all players are new and the game was fresh, would require several players pooling their available money together in order to start the guild. I think requiring multiple people could be a necessary condition to create a clan, but not a requirement to keep the clan active (if I have a clan and we have a big falling out, I may want to keep the name but attempt to rebuild the clan from scratch).

I don't mind the idea of clan tags being relinquished, but only if were an appropriate amount of time to assume players were not coming back or don't care enough to keep the tag (for instance someone from the clan must login at least once every 3 months to keep the tag, otherwise it would be considered inactive and the name/tag would be free to use).


I will assume that you were meaning to quote me on this one. I never played WoW, or really any other pay to play MMO. I know that in the games I have played, some xbox, some PC. Such as Pangya, Trickerster, Maple story, Armored core, a final fantasy on ps3 also. I can't think of user requirements. I just know that it could be expensive to start a guild. Some people could just solo-grind instead of pooling their money, though.

If it didn't disband when you hit 1 person though, what could stop me from making x standard users or just finding people online to make a clan that i could then kick people from to be a 1man guild still?

I personally think it should be like how i remember broodwar being. If your not active for 3 months, your account name is thrown back into the pool but not deleted until someone else goes to claim it. If you sign in before someone takes that account name, it would take you back out of the pool for another 3 months. (That is just how i remember it, I could be way off on this one.)
Every time you read this a SCV dies.
eonDE
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada371 Posts
June 10 2013 20:48 GMT
#119
It doesn't seem like some of you are familiar with Cybersquatting.
triforks
Profile Joined November 2010
United States370 Posts
June 10 2013 21:52 GMT
#120
On June 10 2013 04:16 Xonix wrote:
We want to have a very professional tag like LaG and not lLaGl because it makes us look slow and not fast enough to pick up that name.


Makes you look slow?

You were slow lol

>_>
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