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On June 10 2013 07:23 FunkyLich wrote:
Since April 30th? Roughly 2 months? Try roughly ONE. A system for cancelling inactive tags is just stupid. Personally, I don't play this game that often, so I'm liable to stop for as long as year and come back. What if I got a clan tag with my friends, and when I came back it got revoked without me knowing? I'd be kinda pissed.
Plus you get 6 alphanumeric characters in your clan tag. 6^36. Do the math. There's always gonna be another clan tag for you to pick.
My point is, don't come to TL and whine about how this guy apparently has a life (leaving a game for a little over a month, probably engaging in terrible debauchery), and how bad you deserve this. And my favorite:
" We want to have a very professional tag like LaG and not lLaGl because it makes us look slow and not fast enough to pick up that name. "
Well guess what you were too slow. Somebody else got it first. And it's rightfully theirs. Honestly, I now understand why this guy ignored you on bnet.
Now for the advice, if you've made it this far: It sounds like there is already a system in place to transfer tags. If this tag is that important to you, make him an offer. You know, wave some $$$ in his face. Since he's ignored you, try to get a hold of one of his contacts and explain the situation. If he still ignores you, it's because he's read this thread, and is now witholding the tag to spite you.
If a team like EG or TL had this happen to them, they would do just that. They would find the person with the tag, treat them with a tremendous amount of respect, and make a generous offer. Basically, if you want to be professional, stop whining like a bitch and let the money do the talking.
Except that EG or TL aren't going to go inactive for several months. You're lucky enough that players are allowed multiple copies of one name, otherwise we'd have an even bigger issue with name squatting. Life or no life you don't own the rights to a name when you aren't even playing.
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On June 10 2013 10:20 Megaliskuu wrote:inb4 50 different EG's, its a terrible idea lol
Why? Names aren't unique. You can always pretend to be in EG by just adding the tag in your nickname.
The only downside would be that when you search for a clan, you get multiple choices. But the system could order them by quality of the players.
Anyway, I am not saying it is perfect. But the current system is far from perfect as well.
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On June 10 2013 13:27 Xonix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 13:25 Shin_Gouki wrote:On June 10 2013 13:21 Xonix wrote:On June 10 2013 13:20 Shin_Gouki wrote:On June 10 2013 09:06 Cinim wrote:On June 10 2013 09:01 Windows 7 wrote:That is quite stupid, nobody will remember logging in for 3 minutes just to keep a clan tag, unless as the previous one said someone intends to bother somebody. If they can't be bothered to log on to actually use the tag, why should they be entitled to it? It doesn't have to be three minutes a day, the specifics are arbitrary. There should be some sort of practice, though. Having clans expire due to inactivity will have far more negative impacts than positive ones. What are the negative impacts here? You forget that these clans also have a lot of members, and they will be dissolved if you choose to abandon a clan. Also, some clans are quite small, and just because you have a break from the game does not make them any less entitled to keep that tag, maybe they have used it for ages as well. TaG isn't pro, so it doesn't serve the community anything to give them their tag, unless the other clan which is holding their tag is simply a troll. That is the reason why blizzard most likely reserved tags for the pro teams, because it has benefits for the community and eSports, while an amateur team having their tag does not. Also, you could have used the tag on battlenet for two years(eventually) and then because you're not on for a short time, you lose it. It's simply not worth the time for blizzard to make these changes, even if it's a simple one. >If you abandon a clan If you abandon the clan, you shouldn't deserve to be the owner anyway. What kind of counter logic is that? If a player cannot remain active and doesn't bother to at least log in to check on his beloved clan, then he shouldn't be able to keep it. You also shouldn't have to pay money to the person currently owning it (as another poster recommended). That's beyond stupid as far as I'm concerned. Actually if we had contact with him, we would definitely be willing to pay money.... It's great and all you're willing to pay, but that still shouldn't be necessary. Idk I just want the tag back. Do I really want my players to represent us at MLG Anaheim with lLaGl?
Was it ever yours in the first place?
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On June 10 2013 14:36 TheFear wrote:Show nested quote +Without even going outside my own personal experience, I can say I took a 6 month hiatus from hardcore raiding in WoW and came back as hardcore as ever. Just a rebuttal to that particular point. Long breaks aren't unheard of (for school, life, work, etc). Yes, but if the clan still matters to anyone in your raiding group (including the leader) it will still exist when you get back. You'd only come back to losing your tag if you and every other clan member took the same 6 month hiatus simultaneously. That's why it would only kick in if everyone abandoned ship for over 3 months hypothetically speaking. I think you may have a higher chance of winning the Powerball than 20 nerds all quitting a game they intended to go back to down the line for over 3 months. (lol.) Also it doesn't take more than a minute to log in and keep it "active", so if you really cared at all you'd probably just take a moment once in those three months to make sure it's still there.
This.
While an individual may go inactive for several months and then return to play regularly again (done it myself several times), it seems highly unlikely that an entire clan would all stop playing for a long period of time and then suddenly return and resume operations.
Besides, if Blizzard introduces a rule such as "if no member of the clan logs in for a 3 month period, the clan-tag becomes free to claim", they would announce it publicly and anyone caring for their clan, while going on a 3+ month hiatus together with all their clan-mates (again, consider how incredibly unlikely this is), they know that they have to log in every now and then.
Hell, the system could be setup in such a way that the clan isn't auto-dissolved, but the name becomes available and if someone else claims the name, the folks that previously had it get a popup to pick a new name when they log in again, but with the clan itself remaining intact. And if noone claims the name, nothing happens.
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On June 10 2013 19:55 Rannasha wrote:
This.
While an individual may go inactive for several months and then return to play regularly again (done it myself several times), it seems highly unlikely that an entire clan would all stop playing for a long period of time and then suddenly return and resume operations.
Besides, if Blizzard introduces a rule such as "if no member of the clan logs in for a 3 month period, the clan-tag becomes free to claim", they would announce it publicly and anyone caring for their clan, while going on a 3+ month hiatus together with all their clan-mates (again, consider how incredibly unlikely this is), they know that they have to log in every now and then.
Hell, the system could be setup in such a way that the clan isn't auto-dissolved, but the name becomes available and if someone else claims the name, the folks that previously had it get a popup to pick a new name when they log in again, but with the clan itself remaining intact. And if noone claims the name, nothing happens.
I definitely agree with this, although I'd make it that if you go two complete seasons without logging in then then the clan name becomes available.
Though Blizzard should also send you an email a few weeks before the expiry date.
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On June 10 2013 19:55 Rannasha wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 14:36 TheFear wrote:Without even going outside my own personal experience, I can say I took a 6 month hiatus from hardcore raiding in WoW and came back as hardcore as ever. Just a rebuttal to that particular point. Long breaks aren't unheard of (for school, life, work, etc). Yes, but if the clan still matters to anyone in your raiding group (including the leader) it will still exist when you get back. You'd only come back to losing your tag if you and every other clan member took the same 6 month hiatus simultaneously. That's why it would only kick in if everyone abandoned ship for over 3 months hypothetically speaking. I think you may have a higher chance of winning the Powerball than 20 nerds all quitting a game they intended to go back to down the line for over 3 months. (lol.) Also it doesn't take more than a minute to log in and keep it "active", so if you really cared at all you'd probably just take a moment once in those three months to make sure it's still there. This. While an individual may go inactive for several months and then return to play regularly again (done it myself several times), it seems highly unlikely that an entire clan would all stop playing for a long period of time and then suddenly return and resume operations. Besides, if Blizzard introduces a rule such as "if no member of the clan logs in for a 3 month period, the clan-tag becomes free to claim", they would announce it publicly and anyone caring for their clan, while going on a 3+ month hiatus together with all their clan-mates (again, consider how incredibly unlikely this is), they know that they have to log in every now and then. Hell, the system could be setup in such a way that the clan isn't auto-dissolved, but the name becomes available and if someone else claims the name, the folks that previously had it get a popup to pick a new name when they log in again, but with the clan itself remaining intact. And if noone claims the name, nothing happens.
League of Legends has a similar system with normal names. Inactive accounts get free name changes and their names are thrown back into the market to be claimed. It's a good system.
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Well maybe the guy that has Lag tag was in an accident, broke both his hands and cant log in the game. Maybe he is preparing for exams and doesn't have time to play. He has the same rights as you to a tag.Just because you were slow and didn't care at the time to take the tag, why should he care?
And like everything in this world, you can always make the man an offer he can't refuse if you realllllly want the tag.
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When I was playing WoW and there was a name taken by a character that has been inactive for some time you could contact a GM to free it up for you. Ever tried that?
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First world problems, right here. It's just a tag, for all you know the person who has it has had the 'LaG' tag for years throughout multiple games and has just as much claim to it as you.
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Why don't you come up with a more original clan name...? Maybe that'd solve your problem?
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On June 10 2013 22:28 SupLilSon wrote:
Why don't you come up with a more original clan name...? Maybe that'd solve your problem?
http://www.mys4c.com/clans/lag/page_portal.php?page_id=23
Theres our history if you would like to read up on it. Last thing we will ever do is change our teams name
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After a four month break team owner “Lizard” once again opened the doors of Latest and Greatest GaminG in June of 2012.
So you're pushing to remove the clan tag from someone who has been inactive for 2 months, yet the link above says your clan had a four month inactive period?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
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Inactive 2 months? That's way too short to make someone lose their clan tag.
Maybe after a year.
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On June 10 2013 21:16 rd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 19:55 Rannasha wrote:On June 10 2013 14:36 TheFear wrote:Without even going outside my own personal experience, I can say I took a 6 month hiatus from hardcore raiding in WoW and came back as hardcore as ever. Just a rebuttal to that particular point. Long breaks aren't unheard of (for school, life, work, etc). Yes, but if the clan still matters to anyone in your raiding group (including the leader) it will still exist when you get back. You'd only come back to losing your tag if you and every other clan member took the same 6 month hiatus simultaneously. That's why it would only kick in if everyone abandoned ship for over 3 months hypothetically speaking. I think you may have a higher chance of winning the Powerball than 20 nerds all quitting a game they intended to go back to down the line for over 3 months. (lol.) Also it doesn't take more than a minute to log in and keep it "active", so if you really cared at all you'd probably just take a moment once in those three months to make sure it's still there. This. While an individual may go inactive for several months and then return to play regularly again (done it myself several times), it seems highly unlikely that an entire clan would all stop playing for a long period of time and then suddenly return and resume operations. Besides, if Blizzard introduces a rule such as "if no member of the clan logs in for a 3 month period, the clan-tag becomes free to claim", they would announce it publicly and anyone caring for their clan, while going on a 3+ month hiatus together with all their clan-mates (again, consider how incredibly unlikely this is), they know that they have to log in every now and then. Hell, the system could be setup in such a way that the clan isn't auto-dissolved, but the name becomes available and if someone else claims the name, the folks that previously had it get a popup to pick a new name when they log in again, but with the clan itself remaining intact. And if noone claims the name, nothing happens. League of Legends has a similar system with normal names. Inactive accounts get free name changes and their names are thrown back into the market to be claimed. It's a good system.
My name just got thrown back in TT
On June 10 2013 22:57 Figgy wrote:
Inactive 2 months? That's way too short to make someone lose their clan tag.
Maybe after a year.
Yeah, if they do implement this I think a year would be a good amount of time.
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I managed to get the clan tag SKTT1 on Europe, was rather proud of that 
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If I have vanity license plates on my car but I never drive, I won't have them revoked cus some other guy also wanted the same plates. Why should this be different? Neither you nor anyone else is entitled to any specific nameb if you missed it, well tough luck. It's not important, anyway - I honestly can't imagine sponsors not contacting you because omygosh your bnet clan tag is -LaG- instead of LaG.
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It sounds extremely childish. Just think of something else because it is not fair that someone must lose his clantag because you wanted it. You could have been faster knowing that lag is going to get picked superfast in a server of a videogame.
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You were late. Deal with it. That guy has as much right as you to that clan tag.
As other people have said, offer him some money if you really want the tag that badly. We are not your personal army.
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On June 11 2013 00:08 vNmMasterT wrote:
You were late. Deal with it. That guy has as much right as you to that clan tag.
As other people have said, offer him some money if you really want the tag that badly. We are not your personal army.
pretty much this.
You cant have something back, if you never owned it.
IDK whole thread seems silly, basically you are trying to say you have a right to own this clan tag, because of your amateur team's history...which isnt the case.
also ur concern/worry about sponsor's caring about your clan tag seems pretty silly... if you are having issues getting sponsors... more likely its because they lack interest at all, not because they dislike your clan tag.
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Although I do feel in this case, just because someone else has "your" tag, which you had given up, you shouldn't instantly get your tag just because the other guy has been inactive, even you guys were inactive for a period. What if you had come back to your clan tag being taken when there was no system in place that would of let you know beforehand that if you guys were inactive for X length of time it would become free game.
I do feel that there should be a system where if all members of a clan are inactive for 6~12 months, or maybe 2 seasons? idk, than the tag should be thrown back into the pool for a more active group to use.
EDIT: Not going to change my post, but I had thought they had LaG then went to TLaG. Orz oops.
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