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On June 10 2013 13:36 Moa wrote:
You're telling me that you let someone who nobody in your organization has the ability to contact hold control of your tag.
I agree that there should be some form of activity requirement for holding a tag, though I think it should be much longer than a few months.
if the only way you have to contact people within your organization is through b.net then the problem lies with your team rather than the b.net.
Obviously didn't read the original post^
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so team nrg, fnatic and lag all have clan tags taken by ppl who are inactive for 2+ months or are hackers. c'mon blizz this isn't hard to fix.
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The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening.
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On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening.
On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again.
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On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening. On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again.
This. SO HARD. If you don't have the tag you want, be creative. Otherwise, shut up.
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On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening. On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again.
I'm not going to debate the rights players have towards the game. Obviously, both players paid the equal amount (most likely). I'm also not going to argue that life can keep people busy. There are those who do 12-20 credits in college while maintaining jobs to get by. Those scenarios should be acknowledged by default. However, your ability to remain active/non-active shouldn't affect everyone else's experiences as a whole. I'm sure /the legit/ LaG team isn't the only ones with their eyes on that tag. Thus, it shouldn't be first come first served. Maybe they had the chance to buy the game before the other person who wanted the tag? If both paid the same amount for the game + expansion, but the one who did first is no longer able to log in for reasons beyond his control, shouldn't someone else have the chance to then claim that tag and be able to see how long he can hold onto it?
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Honestly there's no way of changing this. They paid for the game just like you did and they have just as much of a right to a clan tag as you think you have. Sure it would kind of suck to see someone like Suppy or whatever with (EvG) if someone had taken the tag, but shit, that's just tough nuts I guess. Just because it's inconvenient for your organization doesn't mean it diminishes the interest of the common player.
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On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening. On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again.
QFT, I agree. At the same time though I could see a 3 month inactivity being reasonable (like war3 account names), except if nobody in their clan logged in within the 3 month period only then would it be removed. It sucked when my aka "Fear" with over 7k games played went inactive, but by then I had long quit the game and it wasn't a huge deal to me. I think most people who take breaks from games or go on long vacations wouldn't need over 3 months. If they did come back after 3 months, I am pretty sure they're casual enough that they wouldn't miss their old tag too much. Either way I wouldn't personally look down on your members for sporting lLAGl or some slightly altered tag versus LAG. Like sure LAG is cleaner and all, but people can read between the lines (no pun intended) and figure out it wasn't exactly your fault.
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On June 10 2013 14:28 TheFear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening. On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again. QFT, I agree. At the same time though I could see a 3 month inactivity being reasonable (like war3 account names), except if nobody in their clan logged in within the 3 month period only then would it be removed. It sucked when my aka "Fear" with over 7k games played went inactive, but by then I had long quit the game and it wasn't a huge deal to me. I think most people who take breaks from games or go on long vacations wouldn't need over 3 months. If they did come back after 3 months, I am pretty sure they're casual enough that they wouldn't miss their old tag too much. Either way I wouldn't personally look down on your members for sporting lLAGl or some slightly altered tag versus LAG. Like sure LAG is cleaner and all, but people can read between the lines (no pun intended) and figure out it wasn't exactly your fault.
Without even going outside my own personal experience, I can say I took a 6 month hiatus from hardcore raiding in WoW and came back as hardcore as ever. Just a rebuttal to that particular point. Long breaks aren't unheard of (for school, life, work, etc).
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On June 10 2013 14:31 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 14:28 TheFear wrote:On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening. On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again. QFT, I agree. At the same time though I could see a 3 month inactivity being reasonable (like war3 account names), except if nobody in their clan logged in within the 3 month period only then would it be removed. It sucked when my aka "Fear" with over 7k games played went inactive, but by then I had long quit the game and it wasn't a huge deal to me. I think most people who take breaks from games or go on long vacations wouldn't need over 3 months. If they did come back after 3 months, I am pretty sure they're casual enough that they wouldn't miss their old tag too much. Either way I wouldn't personally look down on your members for sporting lLAGl or some slightly altered tag versus LAG. Like sure LAG is cleaner and all, but people can read between the lines (no pun intended) and figure out it wasn't exactly your fault. Without even going outside my own personal experience, I can say I took a 6 month hiatus from hardcore raiding in WoW and came back as hardcore as ever. Just a rebuttal to that particular point. Long breaks aren't unheard of (for school, life, work, etc).
This happens to me a ton for a variety of games. Sometimes shit just gets in the way.
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Sorry about your lag tag brah... I'd pick a new tag. Maybe like LAGGG or LAAAAGGGG or LAAAAAAAGGGG or some other variation. If you want ideas pm me.
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Without even going outside my own personal experience, I can say I took a 6 month hiatus from hardcore raiding in WoW and came back as hardcore as ever. Just a rebuttal to that particular point. Long breaks aren't unheard of (for school, life, work, etc).
Yes, but if the clan still matters to anyone in your raiding group (including the leader) it will still exist when you get back. You'd only come back to losing your tag if you and every other clan member took the same 6 month hiatus simultaneously. That's why it would only kick in if everyone abandoned ship for over 3 months hypothetically speaking. I think you may have a higher chance of winning the Powerball than 20 nerds all quitting a game they intended to go back to down the line for over 3 months. (lol.) Also it doesn't take more than a minute to log in and keep it "active", so if you really cared at all you'd probably just take a moment once in those three months to make sure it's still there.
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On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening. On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again.
So basically you are telling them to bend over and take it in the ass? They've tried talking to the asshole as well as Blizzard and nothing new is going to happen. The guy is going to keep ignoring LaG and Blizzard will most likely do nothing. They have dealt with it by using a different tag, and now they bring up a legitimate problem with the clan system that could have been avoided given Blizzard had any foresight (you know, with thousands of people playing their game).
If you're the owner of a clan and come back 3 months later after being inactive with presumably no contact to anyone inside the game, do you really expect anyone to be around when you come back? I've been in this situation before in other games. I join a clan and all of a sudden my recruiter and other officers go inactive one by one. What the hell am I going to do besides leave? Even if I was able to recruit others, my next problem is keeping people in the clan. It's very discouraging when you join a clan and find out that the owner is nowhere to be seen in the past few months.
However, in LaG's case, the person who made the clan tag is apparently the only person in this Lag Shack clan anyway, as is the case with fnatic's clan tag. So yes, these people have become trolls.
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On June 10 2013 04:26 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Look back in Brood War times for example, they had a inactive account policy that after x amount of time it would be deleted or if you didnt have/get x amount of games in x amount of time the account was to be deleted.
I have touched brood war since 2008 roughly (other than some random 1;1 games out of boredom once a year on a fake account), but yet my main accounts are still active after 3 years.
The reason I say this, is because Blizzard has always said one thing but yet doesnt really follow through on it to the fullest extent.
Honestly, I think if you actually got a huge following with a backing on this IE TL/Reddit maybe a petition online they potentially may implement some changes to it.
as far as i remember in broodwar your acc wasnt going to go deleted if no one request it, so if you not log in 1 year etc and someone wanna make acc with ur name he can and your acc instnat delete, as long no one wanna make an account with your name he could still be reused by you by just log in even 4 years after it 
jaeh bnet2.0 needs inactive clans to be deleted but ALSO we need the possibility to haved MORE clans with same TAG ... its so stupid i mean in broodwar there was also 3 iG teams etc ... its just that only having so few letters and no symbols sucks, it would be nice allowing symbols so that there could be iG. [iG] (iG) etc ...
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You really should be expecting something like this to happen if you're using a very commonly used three-letter word as your clan tag. Just use LaGG or something, not like most people will care
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On June 10 2013 14:13 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2013 13:53 Comogury wrote:
The current owner of that tag is being a prick. What's the fucking point in making your clan private and unsearchable? Sounds like some introverted asshole's sense of entitlement is stripping an actual organization of an opportunity to make themselves look more professional. Same goes for the guy who is holding the fnatic tag. It shouldn't have been a god damn race to see who can get a clan tag first. A quick fix in this situation would be Blizzard allowing clan tags to ignore duplicates if they aren't the same capitalization.
However, they should really look purging inactive clans. If you really, really cared about a clan and wanted to see it flourish, you wouldn't let it die by going inactive yourself. LaG has been around and active in NA since very early into SC2 and it's a damn shame that something this stupid is happening. On the other hand they did pay for the game and therefore paid for the same rights to clan names as everyone else. You can't just purge people because they can't play for two months. I guess many people here don't understand how life can get you busy and sometimes you have to put the game down to manage real situations. Then they come back 3 months late to blizzard saying hey we killed you shitty clan cause a bunch of people have an sc2 team with the same name! You aren't more entitled then other paying customers. There are plenty of casuals that want their own clan and it's something everyone will have to live with. I think the people angry here are being nothing more then bullies with pitchforks. Sorry you think they everyone who causes you problems are trolls, but if you aren't Flash most of these people with clan names probably haven't even heard of you regardless of the effort you put into competitive gaming. When life gives you problems create your own solution instead of blaming it on blizzard again.
Sometimes I read threads just to see BisuDagger's posts
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actually like some1 mentioned before , wc3 the team had to be active or it would get close, it gives u a warning that for inactivity it will close ur team, so u had the chance to tell ur friends to get active.
Also i liked how u need atleast i think 10 ppl to create a team on wc3 so no randoms would grab names
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Get that sponsorship you are looking for and change the tag to LaGxx, where xx is the sponsor. Problem solved! :-)
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Clan maybe could be up for grabs if it was inactive for a ladder season? Maybe something like that.
But anyway OP, it's not that it will make you look slow, you actually were slow -_-
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I didn't read all the thread, so excuse me if the OP went over this.
But why can't you just changed your name? You said you have no sponsorships and I doubt anyone worthwhile knows about you. What is the harm in changing your name so you can get a better clan tag?
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