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Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 09 2013 19:16 GMT
#1
Hi guys. I've made multiple posts before on this current issue and now I feel like its time to make a formal post/request.

First of all, LaG Gaming is an old WC3 team that has been in the SC2 community ever since beta. Some of you guys might remember us as LaGTT (TT stood for TTesports). We've always had a strong amateur scene presence, never really breaking through the pro scene in SC2. Our current roster is listed here. http://www.sc2ranks.com/c/12888/lag-gaming/

Now about the issue. Ever since clan systems were implemented, We've struggled to get the tag LaG. Our first tag was TLaG and our current tag was lLaGl. We've tried every day to see if by a stroke of luck we could obtain LaG back. Unfortunately we could not. We even contacted the owners of the LaG tag only to have them instantly block us from communication.

One day, roughly a month ago, we realized that the owner of the LaG tag left the clan. We jumped at a chance to get the tag back only to find out that the ownership was transferred and it was hidden from the clan system on Battle.net.

Recently using some SC2 Ladder sites, I have found out the owner of the LaG tag. It personally appalled me that after checking his account, he hasn't played a game since April 30th, Roughly 2 months inactive.(Link to proof: http://nios.kr/sc2/us/clan/detail/LAG)

We at LaG Gaming are slowly expanding and for MLG Anahiem we have 2 set players going and maybe a third. We are going to get interviewed, talk to sponsors, and hopefully get casted on the main stage. We want to have a very professional tag like LaG and not lLaGl because it makes us look slow and not fast enough to pick up that name.

Overall I'm not positively sure that we can obtain it. I've went through countless amounts of live chat, support, forum posting etc. I just wanted to make the issue known to the Devs of SC2 and the community that they need to implement a policy for this. Thanks a lot for your time guys.

-Xonix

Links:
http://www.LaGGaming.net
http://www.facebook.com/LaG2.0Gaming
@LaGSC2
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
June 09 2013 19:17 GMT
#2
good idea
Hudson Valley Progamer
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 20:17:47
June 09 2013 19:20 GMT
#3
Try Bnet forums.

Edit: Need to stop posting from my phone, always miss an important part of the OP.
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Xonix
Profile Joined February 2012
225 Posts
June 09 2013 19:23 GMT
#4
On June 10 2013 04:20 Grovbolle wrote:
Try Bnet forums.

Did also.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
June 09 2013 19:24 GMT
#5
I agree with this motion. The internet is infinity. Bnet isn't.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 19:24:43
June 09 2013 19:24 GMT
#6
On June 10 2013 04:20 Grovbolle wrote:
Try Bnet forums.

Try reading the OP.
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1048 Posts
June 09 2013 19:26 GMT
#7
Look back in Brood War times for example, they had a inactive account policy that after x amount of time it would be deleted or if you didnt have/get x amount of games in x amount of time the account was to be deleted.

I have touched brood war since 2008 roughly (other than some random 1;1 games out of boredom once a year on a fake account), but yet my main accounts are still active after 3 years.

The reason I say this, is because Blizzard has always said one thing but yet doesnt really follow through on it to the fullest extent.

Honestly, I think if you actually got a huge following with a backing on this IE TL/Reddit maybe a petition online they potentially may implement some changes to it.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
June 09 2013 19:28 GMT
#8
Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
ExileR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States89 Posts
June 09 2013 19:28 GMT
#9
I had the same issue with the clan tag that our clan would have loved to have since the support launched. Someone took the clan tag way back since the beginning of the beta and hasn't been online in over 27 weeks and is the only user with the tag. I actually contacted blizzard staff about it via live chat and email, and they told me that it was something that blizzard hasn't really implemented to be able to change yet, [Don't know why] so there was nothing they could do at this time. I've tried to also have the clan tag be reported a bunch of times, but that hasn't worked either. I hope there's eventually going to be a way for us to let blizzard know of what's happening. I'm sure it's an easy fix they just haven't got to yet? =/ Not sure.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
June 09 2013 19:31 GMT
#10
You gotta fight...for the right...of your claaaaaaan tag!!!
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GHSTxJet
Profile Joined January 2012
United States154 Posts
June 09 2013 19:32 GMT
#11
Agree 100%
SuppySon
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 09 2013 19:43 GMT
#12
Agreed, definitely annoying for those who had their clan names taken by trolls.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1802 Posts
June 09 2013 19:47 GMT
#13
+1, oG had the same problem, but we were lucky enough that the person who owned the tag was willing to let us have it (it was 2 guys, so we just let them into the clan as well).
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
June 09 2013 19:52 GMT
#14
Seems like people should be able to make a different clan with the same tag. Like how we can already have any in game name chosen.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 19:59:58
June 09 2013 19:59 GMT
#15
this looks more like advertising for your clan than actually having an issue :>

also curious that noone took a tag like [EG]
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 09 2013 20:10 GMT
#16
On June 10 2013 04:59 teddyoojo wrote:
this looks more like advertising for your clan than actually having an issue :>

also curious that noone took a tag like [EG]


That's a really weak way to advertise :/
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 09 2013 20:11 GMT
#17
On June 10 2013 04:59 teddyoojo wrote:
this looks more like advertising for your clan than actually having an issue :>

also curious that noone took a tag like [EG]

Pro teams had tags reserved I believe.
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FunkyLich
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States107 Posts
June 09 2013 22:23 GMT
#18
Since April 30th? Roughly 2 months? Try roughly ONE. A system for cancelling inactive tags is just stupid. Personally, I don't play this game that often, so I'm liable to stop for as long as year and come back. What if I got a clan tag with my friends, and when I came back it got revoked without me knowing? I'd be kinda pissed.
Plus you get 6 alphanumeric characters in your clan tag. 6^36. Do the math. There's always gonna be another clan tag for you to pick.

My point is, don't come to TL and whine about how this guy apparently has a life (leaving a game for a little over a month, probably engaging in terrible debauchery), and how bad you deserve this. And my favorite:

" We want to have a very professional tag like LaG and not lLaGl because it makes us look slow and not fast enough to pick up that name. "

Well guess what you were too slow. Somebody else got it first. And it's rightfully theirs. Honestly, I now understand why this guy ignored you on bnet.

Now for the advice, if you've made it this far: It sounds like there is already a system in place to transfer tags. If this tag is that important to you, make him an offer. You know, wave some $$$ in his face. Since he's ignored you, try to get a hold of one of his contacts and explain the situation. If he still ignores you, it's because he's read this thread, and is now witholding the tag to spite you.

If a team like EG or TL had this happen to them, they would do just that. They would find the person with the tag, treat them with a tremendous amount of respect, and make a generous offer. Basically, if you want to be professional, stop whining like a bitch and let the money do the talking.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
June 09 2013 22:25 GMT
#19
I agree with this.

My clans name on Europe server has been taken by a gold league player, with nobody in the clan
and hasnt been active for 34 weeks

T_T

i posted this on bnet forums.
No one seems to care.
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
June 09 2013 22:26 GMT
#20
On June 10 2013 07:23 FunkyLich wrote:
Since April 30th? Roughly 2 months? Try roughly ONE. A system for cancelling inactive tags is just stupid. Personally, I don't play this game that often, so I'm liable to stop for as long as year and come back. What if I got a clan tag with my friends, and when I came back it got revoked without me knowing? I'd be kinda pissed.
Plus you get 6 alphanumeric characters in your clan tag. 6^36. Do the math. There's always gonna be another clan tag for you to pick.

My point is, don't come to TL and whine about how this guy apparently has a life (leaving a game for a little over a month, probably engaging in terrible debauchery), and how bad you deserve this. And my favorite:

" We want to have a very professional tag like LaG and not lLaGl because it makes us look slow and not fast enough to pick up that name. "

Well guess what you were too slow. Somebody else got it first. And it's rightfully theirs. Honestly, I now understand why this guy ignored you on bnet.

Now for the advice, if you've made it this far: It sounds like there is already a system in place to transfer tags. If this tag is that important to you, make him an offer. You know, wave some $$$ in his face. Since he's ignored you, try to get a hold of one of his contacts and explain the situation. If he still ignores you, it's because he's read this thread, and is now witholding the tag to spite you.

If a team like EG or TL had this happen to them, they would do just that. They would find the person with the tag, treat them with a tremendous amount of respect, and make a generous offer. Basically, if you want to be professional, stop whining like a bitch and let the money do the talking.


Lol, that's a stupid way to look at it. Everyone has priorities in life which will cause them not to play. But your personal life doesn't have anything to do with the game as a whole. There SHOULD be an inactive clan policy. It's smart. It isn't anyone's fault you can't take 3 minutes out of you day to log in and log back out. If they want their tag to be LaG instead of any other tag, and the ones using it have been gone, then why should they deserve to keep it? What if they never come back?
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