EPTGaming rage and anger management - please help - Page 11
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
1) All that rage is just chemicals in your brain. Take deep breaths and do something physical (exercise, jumping up and down, whatever) until those chemicals wear out. 2) Rewatch the game and breakdown why you lost. Sometimes, the rage comes from thinking you've done everything right, when you haven't really understood why you lost. 3) Writing helps. Write down what you can do better. 4) There will always be another game. Even if you lose, there is always be a next time. 5) Objectify the learning, not the victory. When learning becomes the primary objective, you will find that victory will follow. 6) Celebrate your victories and deliberate your losses. If you win celebrate it! My guess is that you don't feel the same level of emotion when you win. Celebrate your victories more! feel happier and you will find that you will win more by simply being more open to opportunity (positive mindset) 7) When you start limiting the ways that you can improve (i can only hold "x" build this way, or i did everything "right" and it still didn't work), stop playing. That's your mind getting more negative. 8) Control the number of games you play b4 each break. I play 3 games so that if i go on a losing streak, i don't feel too bad. if i win, i feel great. I would also say that getting cheesed happens daily. Just remember it's a different way of playing the same game. | ||
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
Did you play sports/competitive-sports much? (particularly single-player ones) What about when you were younger? Do you get angry playing other games? have you tried other games? (e.g. Mario Kart, Halo, Street Fighter, SC2 custom games, Diablo, LoL/DotA) What is your approximate skill level? Do you get just as angry if you lose to a computer AI? Do you play mostly defensively/reactively, offensively (timing attacks, cheese?), or mixed/opportunist? This is a very spontaneous guess, but perhaps it's related to your testosterone levels. | ||
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Lauriel
United States108 Posts
On May 09 2013 16:44 Xapti wrote: More Questions for Lauriel: Did you play sports/competitive-sports much? (particularly single-player ones) What about when you were younger? Do you get angry playing other games? have you tried other games? (e.g. Mario Kart, Halo, Street Fighter, SC2 custom games, Diablo, LoL/DotA) What is your approximate skill level? Do you get just as angry if you lose to a computer AI? 1. I played baseball and basketball through middle school, and took Jujitsu up to 2nd degree black belt as well, but gave up most of that stuff in favor of music in high school. Considering it's my career now, I feel I made the right choice. I am a *passionate* sports fan though. I love baseball, american football, college basketball, and of course, Starcraft. 2. I get annoyed playing other games, but nothing major. I was a pretty respectable Magic: The Gathering player for a number of years, but never once got this frustrated when I lost back then. I play WoW (but just for raiding funsies), and occasionally LoL, though I never really put much time into it as I prefer 1v1 play rather than team oriented, at least when it comes to games. Diablo 3 I play as well, though rarely these days. I also like single player adventure or RPG style games, like Uncharted, Final Fantasies, and various other games of that ilk, as well as sports games. 3. I'm a low-mid Masters player, depending on which direction I'm streaking.  4. Nope, not even close. 5. I play Protoss, so something of a mixed opportunist. I practically always play macro games against Terran, tend to do a variety of 1 base play versus protoss, and do a variety of builds that transition into losing immediately against zerg. | ||
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TheIceMan86
Canada19 Posts
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Sevredol
New Zealand30 Posts
My first thought would be to ask yourself: Do I get upset in other competitive situations/sports when I loose, if the answer is yes then you are going to have a much harder time trying to deal with this problem. If it is just in starcraft 2 then it is probably just a question of perspective. I would suggest you start approaching your games from more of an improvement perspective rather than a needing to win perspective. Remember, many Code S players have win-rates around 60% meaning that they loose up to 4 games out of every 10. Loosing is actually a pretty normal part of starcraft, try to laugh at yourself and shrug it off. Keep thinking about the very best players loosing and you might not feel so bad. The other thing is to avoid re-enforcing your own behavior. If you rage and then go straight into another game and then loose again, not only will get more mad, but you will also begin to condition yourself to be angry every time you loose. This is a vicious cycle. If you loose and get mad, take a break, go for a run or jump up and down. I'm pretty sure I have read that the neural pathways associated with anger tend to stay activated for a while after being turned up, this means that you actually need 20-30 minutes sometimes to cool off. Make sure you watch the replay before you play again, think about where you went wrong and in the next game, simply focus on not making that particular mistake again. Play a few more games until that main mistake inst so much of a problem. In the interest of public safety, you need to stop playing starcraft before you drive, until you get these issues sorted. | ||
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Simsons2
Latvia73 Posts
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Grimmyman123
Canada939 Posts
I suffered the same problem as you. I somewhat have a temper, but I RAGED hard as a Starcraft 2 player. I have a healthy lifestyle, things are good in that I cannot complain, returning to college after 20 years in the work force, all is right in the world. But damnit, if I lost a closely contested match of starcraft or had a bad run of ladder games, or got cheesed badly, I would rage and fold keyboards in half. It got to the point that I would stock up on Logitech K120 refurbs because they were only $8 bucks and they can take a smash or two before I had to replace it. Blackwidows and high end gaming keyboards got expensive. I never had this problem with Broodwar, Command and Conquer, Aliens, etc. Only Starcraft 2. The problem for me is the game. It is somewhat balanced, but the knifes edge in which it was balanced is brutal. The smallest of errors, or a gimmicky tactic would cost you the game. Specifically for me, as a protoss player, I was fed up of playing the PvZ matchup, and if I managed to survive any number of early game cheeses and all ins, I would inevitably lose to the infamous broodlord infestor endgame. Starcraft 2 WoL was not balanced. It was close, and at the pro level was pretty even, but in my eyes, there were units and ideas in the game which were fundamentally flawed. I feel like Blizzard failed me, in that they made a great game, but completely screwed up with the unit design and ideas. When HotS released, you can see indirectly that this is recognised in the unit changes and ability changes, new units etc. The solution for me, was to stop playing. I switched to League of Legends and I love playing that. My Starcraft background helps a great deal with map awareness and game sense. I miss playing starcraft, but I still watch the streams, my favorite players, the tournaments and content etc. My mentality of the game and its understanding is there, I just hated playing it. And now I no longer fold keyboards, smash mice, throw headsets, punch LCD monitors and rage. I don't like being that angry and mad. I never bought Heart of the Swarm, and I might buy Legacy of the Void. If Blizzard can turn out a good game, with good units, and good diverse balance. In the meantime, I'll just watch and enjoy. | ||
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Lauriel
United States108 Posts
On May 09 2013 16:53 Sevredol wrote: There is some good advice in here. My first thought would be to ask yourself: Do I get upset in other competitive situations/sports when I loose, if the answer is yes then you are going to have a much harder time trying to deal with this problem. If it is just in starcraft 2 then it is probably just a question of perspective. I would suggest you start approaching your games from more of an improvement perspective rather than a needing to win perspective. Remember, many Code S players have win-rates around 60% meaning that they loose up to 4 games out of every 10. Loosing is actually a pretty normal part of starcraft, try to laugh at yourself and shrug it off. Keep thinking about the very best players loosing and you might not feel so bad. The other thing is to avoid re-enforcing your own behavior. If you rage and then go straight into another game and then loose again, not only will get more mad, but you will also begin to condition yourself to be angry every time you loose. This is a vicious cycle. If you loose and get made, take a break, go for a run or jump up and down. I'm pretty sure I have read that the neural pathways associated with anger tend to stay activated for a while after being turned up, this means that you actually need 20-30 minutes sometimes to cool off. Make sure you watch the replay before you play again, think about where you went wrong and in the next game, simply focus on not making that particular mistake again. Play a few more games until that main mistake inst so much of a problem. In the interest of public safety, you need playing starcraft before you drive, until you get these issues sorted. I agree with pretty much all of this. As far as other competitive situations, I'm *always* competitive, and likely always will be, but I never, ever react like this, so I do suspect that perspective is the issue. This is another reason why I'm hesitant to try some sort of therapy, because I don't think it's a problem with the general workings of my brain, but rather the way my brain reacts when it's playing Starcraft. | ||
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Ammoth
Sweden391 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
b) Anger management/Psychologists c) Understanding the notion that you're playing a video game for fun, and your life shouldn't be affected by it d) Everytime you rage out of line, take a 1 day break as a means of timing yourself out. | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
I have raged quite a lot in my day and I have found that physical excersize regularly keeps me from building up these insane levels of testosterone. Something as cliche as having a boxing bag in your home that you work on every morning will unload some of that stress / anxiety. You say that you are a very calm person in other instances of life but that might actually be why you are reacting this severely. If you bottle your feelings up in public they only come out even stronger when you do get angry. It is likely that your super rage is partly about starcraft but also all these small annoyances that you built up during the day. | ||
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Nazca
France42 Posts
You play Protoss, that's good. Not in absolute, but because I can give you the best medication there is right now for your disease : Watch Grubby's stream. I never raged as much as you, by far. But I did find myself really really mad at times, especially after cheeses coupled with bm. The game where you start, you're thinking about what you're going to do, you get cheesed and then the guy types "l2p noob" or "gtfo" or these kind of things. Then I started watching Grubby and I learnt, from watching him, how to accept loss and bm and cheeses. White-Ra is also an excellent guide for these aspects of the game. I'm really serious, try it and after a week or so, come back and tell us. | ||
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yaletown
Korea (South)110 Posts
I would say immediately buy a punching bag or something you can hit and take your anger out on until you learn to control it. You seem to find other things anyways. The drivning part, you should definitely not do until you cool down. I feel you though, to a lesser degree. Sorry if someone has already mentioned this, I only read the OP. GL HF! | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
The idea is that any kind of embarrassment will make you feel like you need to behave more civilized and probably cool you off or something. | ||
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reki-
Netherlands327 Posts
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
Also, play unranked? I sometimes get annoyed if I get cheesed and lose ladder points, if I get cheesed in an unranked/custom game I don't care at all, not sure how it is for you. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 09 2013 08:58 Senshin wrote: lol, the topic title let me think of somebody else........ Yes.. when I seen it I really thought it is about "somebody" else as it pops up after last WCS AM and that "someone" post on this forum. But sadly it isn't. It is much worse. My advice to OP is to get some professional help if you can afford it, otherwise do less stressful stuff in your life. This is far from normal. | ||
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