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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
May 09 2013 10:56 GMT
#241
The kind of behavior You are describing makes me wonder, is really the sc2 at fault here? Ar You 100% sure it isnt just a spark? Something that ignites You and makes You went anger coming from other sources? If You are 100% sure its not the case, You should probably find another hobby. Something more suitable for You. No reason to be so reckless over a game.
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Didgaraya
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom2 Posts
May 09 2013 10:56 GMT
#242
Take an LSD. It will dissolve some of your ego (which is clearly overgrown) and build up some imagination (which you clearly lack). Otherwise I would advise a therapy. But don't go to a shrink, find an alternative. You wouldn't like yourself after a shrink is through with you (which would most likely be expensive and took 10+ yrs).

Best of luck!

P.S. There's a reason why you put some much pressure upon yourself (and, in effect, are a highly competitive person). Finding it and figuring out how to solve it will take time. Whatever you do, you may be good at that, but you are clearly not good at knowing yourself. This brings anger, I think. Not only the fact that you cannot stop anger but that you don't know yourself enough to understand what puts you into alcohol-like rather than consciousness-altered state.
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Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 11:10:13
May 09 2013 11:08 GMT
#243
On May 09 2013 19:56 Didgaraya wrote:
Take an LSD. It will dissolve some of your ego (which is clearly overgrown) and build up some imagination (which you clearly lack). Otherwise I would advise a therapy. But don't go to a shrink, find an alternative. You wouldn't like yourself after a shrink is through with you (which would most likely be expensive and took 10+ yrs).

Best of luck!

P.S. There's a reason why you put some much pressure upon yourself (and, in effect, are a highly competitive person). Finding it and figuring out how to solve it will take time. Whatever you do, you may be good at that, but you are clearly not good at knowing yourself. This brings anger, I think. Not only the fact that you cannot stop anger but that you don't know yourself enough to understand what puts you into alcohol-like rather than consciousness-altered state.

Or even better : don't get advice from the Internet. This post exemplifies why you should not. Anybody saying "don't go to a shrink, take a strong hallucinogenic drug that can have severe side effects in the case of a latent, undiagnosed mental illness" should not be taken seriously. Note that I'm not denying in any way the positive effects LSD may have : I'm just saying that someone who is not able to control its emotion to the point of hurting himself WHILE SOBER should not drink alcohol or take drugs, period.
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bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 11:24:40
May 09 2013 11:22 GMT
#244
On May 09 2013 20:08 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 19:56 Didgaraya wrote:
Take an LSD. It will dissolve some of your ego (which is clearly overgrown) and build up some imagination (which you clearly lack). Otherwise I would advise a therapy. But don't go to a shrink, find an alternative. You wouldn't like yourself after a shrink is through with you (which would most likely be expensive and took 10+ yrs).

Best of luck!

P.S. There's a reason why you put some much pressure upon yourself (and, in effect, are a highly competitive person). Finding it and figuring out how to solve it will take time. Whatever you do, you may be good at that, but you are clearly not good at knowing yourself. This brings anger, I think. Not only the fact that you cannot stop anger but that you don't know yourself enough to understand what puts you into alcohol-like rather than consciousness-altered state.

Or even better : don't get advice from the Internet. This post exemplifies why you should not. Anybody saying "don't go to a shrink, take a strong hallucinogenic drug that can have severe side effects in the case of a latent, undiagnosed mental illness" should not be taken seriously. Note that I'm not denying in any way the positive effects LSD may have : I'm just saying that someone who is not able to control its emotion to the point of hurting himself WHILE SOBER should not drink alcohol or take drugs, period.

Don't want to get this offtopci but ... you do know what pretty promisiing end of a visit to a doc is? Right, strong drugs which can, now it comes; hurt and influence your body.

Best of Luck with your problems.

PS: Woriking wrong while being Sober doesn't conlcude to drugs not helping him cO
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 09 2013 11:32 GMT
#245
On May 09 2013 19:35 Eviscerador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 19:25 tomatriedes wrote:
It's funny I never raged much in Starcraft but Dota makes me froth at the mouth sometimes.

In Sc2 you rage about losing our your own mistakes, so its more about Ego.

In dota or similar team games, you rage about the retards in your team, so it has nothing to do with yourself.


Yeah it's interesting how some of us rage more at one than the other though- it probably correlates with different personality types.
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
May 09 2013 11:35 GMT
#246
On May 09 2013 20:22 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 20:08 Ahelvin wrote:
On May 09 2013 19:56 Didgaraya wrote:
Take an LSD. It will dissolve some of your ego (which is clearly overgrown) and build up some imagination (which you clearly lack). Otherwise I would advise a therapy. But don't go to a shrink, find an alternative. You wouldn't like yourself after a shrink is through with you (which would most likely be expensive and took 10+ yrs).

Best of luck!

P.S. There's a reason why you put some much pressure upon yourself (and, in effect, are a highly competitive person). Finding it and figuring out how to solve it will take time. Whatever you do, you may be good at that, but you are clearly not good at knowing yourself. This brings anger, I think. Not only the fact that you cannot stop anger but that you don't know yourself enough to understand what puts you into alcohol-like rather than consciousness-altered state.

Or even better : don't get advice from the Internet. This post exemplifies why you should not. Anybody saying "don't go to a shrink, take a strong hallucinogenic drug that can have severe side effects in the case of a latent, undiagnosed mental illness" should not be taken seriously. Note that I'm not denying in any way the positive effects LSD may have : I'm just saying that someone who is not able to control its emotion to the point of hurting himself WHILE SOBER should not drink alcohol or take drugs, period.

Don't want to get this offtopci but ... you do know what pretty promisiing end of a visit to a doc is? Right, strong drugs which can, now it comes; hurt and influence your body.

Best of Luck with your problems.

PS: Woriking wrong while being Sober doesn't conlcude to drugs not helping him cO


That's a really bad comparison. "You can't say LSD is bad because you can get other drugs prescribed from a doctor" would be a valid train of thought if all types of medication had the same effects as LSD. They don't, so it isn't.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
May 09 2013 11:35 GMT
#247
I think you should accept the fact that you cannot be the best at everything, and that you're going to loose in many aspects. This will make you focus on what's really important for you, and what you're good at.
CamoPillbox
Profile Joined April 2012
Czech Republic229 Posts
May 09 2013 12:08 GMT
#248
After every game i lost i just pick weight and make few exercise with them and go next game so i filter my rage like that and my hands getting stronger so two way win
Czech Terran(Hots) player
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 09 2013 12:08 GMT
#249
I'd go ahead and guess (/deduce) the problem is indeed somewhere else and gaming is the outlet for your rage. Therefore I suggest you go see a shrink.
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MrSourGit
Profile Joined August 2012
England135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 12:15:21
May 09 2013 12:10 GMT
#250
I'm 26 , only had 1 rage , when I was a good ages back and killed a toss 2 base All in push , then fking DTs turn up , I win but go me did I shout some shit.

God , you woulda burnt your place down if you lost like I did after being so far ahead vs a Terran yesterday .... Mines ..... I really hope you ain't Zerg lol.

Anyway yeah , the more you cry , the shitter you'll be , the more you'll lose .... I've played games my entire life , any I play I've played I've always tried to be the best , the games I've been best at , I play very calmly .... If your worked up you'll play shit.

Just deal with it .... Sorry but come on , your 27 , stop being a bitch .... Sorry but come on ....

Winston Churchill - ''I may be drunk, Miss , but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly'
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 09 2013 12:11 GMT
#251
On May 09 2013 20:22 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 20:08 Ahelvin wrote:
On May 09 2013 19:56 Didgaraya wrote:
Take an LSD. It will dissolve some of your ego (which is clearly overgrown) and build up some imagination (which you clearly lack). Otherwise I would advise a therapy. But don't go to a shrink, find an alternative. You wouldn't like yourself after a shrink is through with you (which would most likely be expensive and took 10+ yrs).

Best of luck!

P.S. There's a reason why you put some much pressure upon yourself (and, in effect, are a highly competitive person). Finding it and figuring out how to solve it will take time. Whatever you do, you may be good at that, but you are clearly not good at knowing yourself. This brings anger, I think. Not only the fact that you cannot stop anger but that you don't know yourself enough to understand what puts you into alcohol-like rather than consciousness-altered state.

Or even better : don't get advice from the Internet. This post exemplifies why you should not. Anybody saying "don't go to a shrink, take a strong hallucinogenic drug that can have severe side effects in the case of a latent, undiagnosed mental illness" should not be taken seriously. Note that I'm not denying in any way the positive effects LSD may have : I'm just saying that someone who is not able to control its emotion to the point of hurting himself WHILE SOBER should not drink alcohol or take drugs, period.

Don't want to get this offtopci but ... you do know what pretty promisiing end of a visit to a doc is? Right, strong drugs which can, now it comes; hurt and influence your body.

Best of Luck with your problems.

PS: Woriking wrong while being Sober doesn't conlcude to drugs not helping him cO

You just compared a doctor that got years of study to a random internet poster.
Yea...
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
May 09 2013 12:13 GMT
#252
or maybe just read that http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411465 and get a sense of what actually matters?
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 09 2013 12:13 GMT
#253
I can definitely relate. I seem to have overcome my problem though. I used to rage by punching at my bed room door, scarring knuckles or throwing my keyboard at my bedroom window. Very embarrasing. All though my rage lasted about 5-10 mins of overwhelming negative impulses not 30.

I noticed that the rage was at it's worst when my view point of my life was at it's worst. Where sc2 was what mattered the most as sad as that sounds. So I started adding other hobbies in my life and plans for the future, to devalue the importance of the game. I tried to have a healthier look on losing. Seeing what I can learn from each loss and I haven't had an instance of rage for a long time now. Other than a few no gg's. Actually a lot, but thats another thing I've been working on. Even though saying good game can be a stupid sentiment if the game was 5 mins long and bad.

Also I've been trying to find the triggers to what angers me the most and figuring out why.
like:
1) Losing because I played way below my own level. So this anger is directed inwards.
2) Losing to something stupid and luck based. Like zvz where someone six pools on the biggest map in the game.
3) Losing a game where I had it in the bag at one point, but threw it away.

These are all things you can work on, learn from, or reframe. I've tried my hardest to do so and it's slowly been paying off.

On another topic about dealing with other peoples BM and Rage. I've been trying to ignore em. Unless they are extremely rude then I can get drawn in an arguement or simply attack them back, ridicule them ect. Which is a negative spiral I in the future would like to avoid. So lately I've been trying to talk a few people down, with success. An example: One dude I after having successfully one based proxy spired for kicks, responded angry at me calling me a "retarded faggot" etc etc. Asking for a rematch, I gave him one and simply just talked to him in a calm manner. He won the rematch and now he's on my friend list.

Hope any of this ranting helps. because I know how much uncontrolled raging sucks and it sounds like you have it even worse than I did/do.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 09 2013 12:19 GMT
#254
On May 09 2013 09:13 Lauriel wrote:
To everyone saying "quit and get professional help," thank you for your input, but I'm not going to respond, simply because it's a last resort, and I'm looking for solutions that will prevent me from going to that end. I also don't have the money for professional help, and have no interest in talking to a psychiatrist about gaming rage that they probably don't understand to begin with.

Again, thank you for the input though. It is noted.

3. Screaming in fits of rage that lasts for anywhere from 30-45 minutes at their worst.


This does not sound like gaming rage. This isn't like punching a locker after losing a sports game. That's not even punching your keyboard. I mean, you can try slamming your thigh instead of a breakable object, but your behavior sounds kind of disturbing and it doesn't sound like it's just about competition. :/

Maybe not a psychiatrist, but there are psychologists or counselors who could help.
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 09 2013 12:21 GMT
#255
OP do you suffer from depression?
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
May 09 2013 12:22 GMT
#256
play arcade maps.. dont go to ladder thats what i do
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
May 09 2013 12:28 GMT
#257
With such severe problems I would find professional help, no one on these forums can provide an accurate response. I do not recommend playing the game.
HeeeZay
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia14 Posts
May 09 2013 12:30 GMT
#258
May be hard to do, but talking to loved ones, and getting help ls the best option, i went through the same stuff, not involving gaming though, and seeing a doctor/therapist brought out underlying problems and has helped me work through them very slowly and is making me better. If i never had my breakdown/diagnosed with severe depression all my friends and family would have had no idea just like me.
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
May 09 2013 12:54 GMT
#259
try to remind yourself that you are playing against other humans rather than just computers. If you lose you are making somebodies day happier.

also do some exercise after each loss, just like 20 pressups and 30 sit-ups. doesn't really matter how many, just enough to let you kind of de-stress a little and release the tension before going into the next game so frustration doesnt build up so much.
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SC2Jan
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany93 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 13:48:55
May 09 2013 13:47 GMT
#260
On May 09 2013 21:19 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:13 Lauriel wrote:
To everyone saying "quit and get professional help," thank you for your input, but I'm not going to respond, simply because it's a last resort, and I'm looking for solutions that will prevent me from going to that end. I also don't have the money for professional help, and have no interest in talking to a psychiatrist about gaming rage that they probably don't understand to begin with.

Again, thank you for the input though. It is noted.

Show nested quote +
3. Screaming in fits of rage that lasts for anywhere from 30-45 minutes at their worst.


This does not sound like gaming rage. This isn't like punching a locker after losing a sports game. That's not even punching your keyboard. I mean, you can try slamming your thigh instead of a breakable object, but your behavior sounds kind of disturbing and it doesn't sound like it's just about competition. :/

I fully agree. @Lauriel quote: Just a few points: You might find a solution to avoid your reactions, be it via letting energy out or not playing or whatever. But I'm afraid that it won't clear the roots of your problem there. Also, I fully understand the idea of getting professional help as a last resort, but you might be already in the situation of needing to use this last opportunity. Sure, you haven't tried some things yet and maybe something will work - my advice would be to look carefully if you can get your behaviour under a level that endangers you and/or others. Everything below that could be acceptable and if you don't want to go to some sessions then, that's fine. But I would draw the line there and at the current state say: Go and use your last resort.

Do you have any sort of insurance that might pay for the costs? Here in Germany they would pay for sessions in this case (pretty sure about this) as this is some serious, health threatening issue. One last thing: Don't worry about psychologists not being able to work with "gaming rage". It's not the game that causes you to snap, the important part is the meta information about theses situations. Every therapist worth it's money won't have any problems there, they work a little bit different than you might think.

P.S.: Psychiatrists usually work with medicine, I'm pretty sure you won't need to see those. What you might be looking for is a Psychologist/Therapist.

*edit* Grammar is not my friend.
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