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May 07 2013 20:15 GMT
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WCS Europe: (Z)K3.VortiX and (Z)Acer.Nerchio get past (P)XMG.monchi and (T)Mill.Dayshi in Ro32 Group F

Detailed results from Live Report Thread by kollin.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Nerchio vs. Dayshi
(Z)Nerchio < Star Station > (T)Dayshi
(Z)Nerchio < Bel'Shir Vestige > (T)Dayshi
(Z)Nerchio < Whirlwind > (T)Dayshi

(T)Dayshi wins 2-1!

monchi vs. VortiX
(P)monchi < Newkirk Precinct > (Z)VortiX
(P)monchi < Daybreak > (Z)VortiX
(P)monchi < Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)VortiX

(Z)VortiX wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(T)Dayshi < Akilon Wastes > (Z)VortiX
(T)Dayshi < Daybreak > (Z)VortiX

(Z)VortiX wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(P)monchi < Bel'Shir Vestige > (Z)Nerchio
(P)monchi < Newkirk Precinct > (Z)Nerchio

(Z)Nerchio wins 2-0!

Final Match
(T)Dayshi < Akilon Wastes > (Z)Nerchio
(T)Dayshi < Star Station > (Z)Nerchio
(T)Dayshi < Whirlwind > (Z)Nerchio

(Z)Nerchio wins 2-1!



(Z)VortiX and (Z)Nerchio advance to RO16!


The two accomplished Wol Zergs VortiX and Nerchio advanced over the underdogs monchi and Dayshi in Group F. Vortix advanced in first place with a good all-around performance, defeating his opponents in macro games as well as showing a clever overlord + roach all-in against Dayshi in final series. Errors cost Nerchio his initial series against Dayshi, but he recovered by defeating monchi in the losers match and winning a rematch against Dayshi in the final match to secure a Ro16 spot.

WCS EU: Results and Standings on Liquipedia
All VODs at ESL.eu



WCS America: (Z)EG.Suppy.RC scores a major upset by defeating (T)AX.Heart and (T)AX.Ryung to reach the Ro16; (P)Hellokitty gives mixed performance before ceding second place spot to Ryung.

Detailed results from Live Report Thread by Waxangel.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Suppy vs. Heart
(Z)Suppy < Daybreak > (T)Heart
(Z)Suppy < Bel'Shir Vestige > (T)Heart
(Z)Suppy <> (T)Heart

Suppy wins 2-0!

Ryung vs. Hellokitty
(T)Ryung < Daybreak > (P)Hellokitty
(T)Ryung < Akilon Wastes > (P)Hellokitty
(T)Ryung <> (P)Hellokitty

Ryung wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(Z)Suppy < Akilon Wastes > (T)Ryung
(Z)Suppy < Bel'Shir Vestige > (T)Ryung
(Z)Suppy <> (T)Ryung

Suppy wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(P)Hellokitty < Neo Planet S> (T)Heart
(P)Hellokitty < Daybreak > (T)Heart
(P)Hellokitty < Bel'Shir Vestige > (T)Heart

Hellokitty wins 2-1!

Final Match
(T)Ryung < Akilon Wastes > (P)Hellokitty
(T)Ryung < Neo Planet S > (P)Hellokitty
(T)Ryung <> (P)Hellokitty

Ryung wins 2-0!



Suppy and Ryung advance to RO16!


After utter Korean domination in week one of WCS America, the USA's Suppy hit back with the biggest one day upset across all WCS regions. Suppy didn't drop a single map as he defeated two Korean Terrans, Axiom's Heart and Ryung, to advance to the Ro16 as first place in his group. The highlight of Suppy's night was a fifty minute brawl against Heart, which was as entertaining as it was scrappy and sloppy. On the other hand, Suppy's series against Ryung was much easier, with Ryung tapping out against consecutive roach-bane attacks.

WCS America: Results and Standings on Liquipedia


The other American in the group, Hellokitty, put on a more mixed performance. He lived up to his reputation as a cheesy player in his first series, getting crushed by Ryung who carefully scouted and prepared for all-ins. However, Hellokitty got some redemption in the losers match against Heart, where he defeated the Korean Terran in a macro game before finishing him off with an immortal all-in build. The Koreans did get the last laugh on the night, as Ryung had no trouble defeating Hellokitty once again, avenging his teammate Heart and reaching the Ro16.

All VODs at MLG Youtube


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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 20:43:03
May 07 2013 20:42 GMT
#2
Finally a group where my predictions actually worked out. Vortix is looking good against Terran, hopefully his ZvZ won't hold him back.
Sharpen
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4 Posts
May 07 2013 20:43 GMT
#3
USA USA USA!!
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 07 2013 20:44 GMT
#4
Suppy!!!!!!!!!! Our hope!
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BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
May 07 2013 20:46 GMT
#5
Suppy! Suppy!. Now we root Scarlett! Scarlett!
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
May 07 2013 20:49 GMT
#6
Suppy!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8540 Posts
May 07 2013 20:52 GMT
#7
great performance by suppy, maybe not all hope is lost for the US of A!
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
May 07 2013 20:52 GMT
#8
Well, that intense practice with Demu sure did help him out.
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
May 07 2013 20:56 GMT
#9
Well done America! Foreigners Hwaiting! OK USA!

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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
May 07 2013 20:56 GMT
#10
Suuuupppyyyy, yesssss <3!
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 07 2013 20:57 GMT
#11
Suppy!!
Leatworms
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3 Posts
May 07 2013 21:01 GMT
#12
Nerchio w/ la cucarachas!
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
May 07 2013 21:05 GMT
#13
So sad that the first night of WCS-NA that I miss, someone from NA makes it out, but congrats to Suppy!

My hope is that this decreases the number of posts in the WCS-NA live report threads that just crap all over the NA scene.... But I doubt it will do anything.
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Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
May 07 2013 21:07 GMT
#14
man teamliquid writers are pretty good at WCS EU predictions right now. though i could cattle fionn into the ground with my german coverage and predictions but right now TL writers and i have both 10/12 guesses right.

good job!

also: suppy!
Johhey
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway72 Posts
May 07 2013 21:10 GMT
#15
Suppy has been my favorite to watch ever since I stumbled upon his stream, really looking to be one of EGs top zergs. Ho!pe he does well in RO16
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
May 07 2013 21:11 GMT
#16
Zerg so stronk
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 21:12:40
May 07 2013 21:11 GMT
#17
wow Suppy! nice surprise

Also both Duran Brothers keeping it strong in EU!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 21:23:33
May 07 2013 21:21 GMT
#18
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 07 2013 21:23 GMT
#19
Supply is so sick! Well done!
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 21:26:07
May 07 2013 21:23 GMT
#20
Great games by Suppy, he made his attacks work even when they were fully scouted. (edit: I only saw the Ryung series, but he looked in control the whole time.)

Hellokitty had some good games, but got rolled over in others. I think he will do well if he refines his play more. Some of his proxy strategies worked well, but others fell flat.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 07 2013 21:24 GMT
#21
Can't believe my call on Vortix and Nerchio was right o.0
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 07 2013 21:24 GMT
#22
Yeah go suppy!!!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 07 2013 21:25 GMT
#23
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Suppy couldn't have played well, relatively speaking then? We don't seem to be allowing for that possibility. Suppy was a major dark horse, I am not an EG fanboy but I was happy to see him get through.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 07 2013 21:26 GMT
#24
Awesome! Looking forward to Suppy's VODs!
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Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
May 07 2013 21:26 GMT
#25
I am mightily delighted :D

If there's a single foreigner out there who isn't on Team Suppy, I will be very suprised :D
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 21:33:10
May 07 2013 21:29 GMT
#26
On May 08 2013 06:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Suppy couldn't have played well, relatively speaking then? We don't seem to be allowing for that possibility. Suppy was a major dark horse, I am not an EG fanboy but I was happy to see him get through.


He was very cost efficient and denied reinforcements by occupying/destroying Heart's production. All of his Ultralisks were heroes.

Edit: That single one back at home stood out above the rest though. What a champ.
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Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
May 07 2013 21:29 GMT
#27
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say


True, but I'm glad he stayed in it anyway and did not adopt Idra's mindset.
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
May 07 2013 21:34 GMT
#28
fucking awesome suppy made it through, super happy about that
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niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
May 07 2013 21:39 GMT
#29
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say


Yeah 3 banshees instead of ravens and that game would've ended 30 minutes earlier.
Still, it was quite entertaining and very nice games by Suppy!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 07 2013 21:40 GMT
#30
Glad to see Suppy get through. The Europe group winners were predictable though.



Side note:
I've never seen updates show up this quickly on the forums on any tournament. Ever. Is this Wax's passive aggressive way of lashing out at WCS/Blizzard/MLG or something?
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
May 07 2013 21:44 GMT
#31
damn g2 suppy vs heart was so sick still cant believe it o_o.
;;
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
May 07 2013 21:46 GMT
#32
Dayshi
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
May 07 2013 21:49 GMT
#33
Well done Suppy. Watched his games. Impressive. Sadly I think he will be joined by only HuK and Scarlett as NA representatives next round...

As for the WCS EU Nerchio and VortiX were in probably easiest group out of all WCS Code S.
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
May 07 2013 21:54 GMT
#34
EG Curse !
oh wait-

I'm very happy for suppy and the others
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 21:59:13
May 07 2013 21:57 GMT
#35
On May 08 2013 06:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Suppy couldn't have played well, relatively speaking then? We don't seem to be allowing for that possibility. Suppy was a major dark horse, I am not an EG fanboy but I was happy to see him get through.


He lost the game and then heart gave it back to him on a silver platter.

I don't mean bad for Suppy, but he lost. Horribly. I don't think he would dispute that, it's just somehow terran managed to lose the game afterwards.

Like there was not a chance in hell
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
SolarJto
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States260 Posts
May 07 2013 21:58 GMT
#36
GO SUPPY GO
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nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
May 07 2013 21:59 GMT
#37
USAUSAUSA! gl to suppy!
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
May 07 2013 22:00 GMT
#38
I was surprised by Suppy's results.
I was ashamed by Hellokitty's play.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13956 Posts
May 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#39


I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 07 2013 22:24 GMT
#40
Well done suppy! Even before he goes to korea, we got our american wolf :,).
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 22:27:44
May 07 2013 22:25 GMT
#41
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
May 07 2013 22:26 GMT
#42
No big suprise to me that suppy did wel. Cause I picked him in my liquidbet!
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hawk123
Profile Joined July 2009
United States77 Posts
May 07 2013 22:33 GMT
#43
On May 08 2013 07:25 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...


Obviously you dislike suppy for some reason. Lose your envy and enjoy the entertainment...no one is saying its the highest level of play but was fun to watch.
If you aren't the best, you aren't shit
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
May 07 2013 22:40 GMT
#44
Dat Suppy. Goes to top school and doesn't fraid of koreans.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 07 2013 22:44 GMT
#45
Suppy really balances his study and game well! I wish that he could go for Korea for a couple of months to take a shot in Korean SCII leagues, which really gives him advice whether to be a progamer or not then.
Feel pity for Hellokitty. He even appeared in the Chinese SCII forum before, and after that I haven't seen him.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
May 07 2013 22:47 GMT
#46
On May 08 2013 07:33 hawk123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...


Obviously you dislike suppy for some reason. Lose your envy and enjoy the entertainment...no one is saying its the highest level of play but was fun to watch.


I have nothing against suppy, or heart

but the game was awful XD

The extent of the terran throw makes it impossible for me to enjoy it, and i think that's why it shouldnt be called one of the best games
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 22:51:07
May 07 2013 22:50 GMT
#47
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 23:42:03
May 07 2013 23:40 GMT
#48
Oh god, there are worse? :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 07 2013 23:46 GMT
#49
Heart
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
May 07 2013 23:59 GMT
#50
SUPPY WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
May 08 2013 00:01 GMT
#51
Never doubted ya Suppy!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
May 08 2013 00:28 GMT
#52
On May 08 2013 07:47 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:33 hawk123 wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...


Obviously you dislike suppy for some reason. Lose your envy and enjoy the entertainment...no one is saying its the highest level of play but was fun to watch.


I have nothing against suppy, or heart

but the game was awful XD

The extent of the terran throw makes it impossible for me to enjoy it, and i think that's why it shouldnt be called one of the best games


Makes me wonder what exactly do you enjoy to watch in sc2?
Obviously you don't like comebacks, since apparently every time a player that is ahead loses he just threw the game...
tluu12
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada35 Posts
May 08 2013 00:31 GMT
#53
Suppy vs Heart game two, wow. What a performance Suppy showed, will be rooting for Suppy in premiere league all the way!! Suppy fighting!!
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
May 08 2013 01:13 GMT
#54
Suppy rox
Galatians 2:20
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
May 08 2013 01:14 GMT
#55
Suppy's performance is not actually that surprising when you look at how well he did in the last WCS
I've been a fan of his ever since that tournament, he's so good
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13956 Posts
May 08 2013 01:35 GMT
#56
On May 08 2013 07:47 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:33 hawk123 wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...


Obviously you dislike suppy for some reason. Lose your envy and enjoy the entertainment...no one is saying its the highest level of play but was fun to watch.


I have nothing against suppy, or heart

but the game was awful XD

The extent of the terran throw makes it impossible for me to enjoy it, and i think that's why it shouldnt be called one of the best games

People making any good game into a "throw" has literaly ruined esports for me.

Some people simply want to ruin other peoples fun and to be miserable. It was a really good game that was exiting to watch.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
May 08 2013 01:43 GMT
#57
On May 08 2013 09:28 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:47 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:33 hawk123 wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...


Obviously you dislike suppy for some reason. Lose your envy and enjoy the entertainment...no one is saying its the highest level of play but was fun to watch.


I have nothing against suppy, or heart

but the game was awful XD

The extent of the terran throw makes it impossible for me to enjoy it, and i think that's why it shouldnt be called one of the best games


Makes me wonder what exactly do you enjoy to watch in sc2?
Obviously you don't like comebacks, since apparently every time a player that is ahead loses he just threw the game...


Dunno about that guy but I watch to see great builds and game play. That game was pretty horrible by Heart. It was a pretty bad game in the eyes of a mid masters player. Exciting- but not great gameplay by any means
Long live the Boss Toss!
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
May 08 2013 01:59 GMT
#58
All that practice with Demuslim really paid off, didn't it? Well done Suppy .
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 02:03:20
May 08 2013 02:01 GMT
#59
On May 08 2013 10:35 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:47 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:33 hawk123 wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...


Obviously you dislike suppy for some reason. Lose your envy and enjoy the entertainment...no one is saying its the highest level of play but was fun to watch.


I have nothing against suppy, or heart

but the game was awful XD

The extent of the terran throw makes it impossible for me to enjoy it, and i think that's why it shouldnt be called one of the best games

People making any good game into a "throw" has literaly ruined esports for me.

Some people simply want to ruin other peoples fun and to be miserable. It was a really good game that was exiting to watch.


some people like different things

stop trying to ascribe that as some kind of personality flaw

guy said he didn't like the game, he wasn't telling you to hate it too
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 08 2013 02:08 GMT
#60
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?
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ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
May 08 2013 02:49 GMT
#61
Agree with Cyro. After watching GSL ro32, this seems kinda... weak in comparison. Of course, it's a new league, i hope the games get better though. It's easier for me to follow the Koreans and the Europeans.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
May 08 2013 02:52 GMT
#62
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?


if Mvp-Squirtle metropolis can be called one of the best games because of context, then game 7 of that series is probably the greatest throw of all time
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 08 2013 02:54 GMT
#63
On May 08 2013 11:52 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?


if Mvp-Squirtle metropolis can be called one of the best games because of context, then game 7 of that series is probably the greatest throw of all time

what about MKP-Nestea game 7?
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TL+ Member
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 08 2013 02:58 GMT
#64
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?


At least half of them belong to zergbong.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
May 08 2013 03:01 GMT
#65
On May 08 2013 11:52 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?


if Mvp-Squirtle metropolis can be called one of the best games because of context, then game 7 of that series is probably the greatest throw of all time

IdrA leaving certain games when ahead are pretty big throws imo
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 03:07:15
May 08 2013 03:05 GMT
#66
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

NesTea, IdrA and Ret can probably split all ten among themselves

On May 08 2013 11:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:52 Waxangel wrote:
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?


if Mvp-Squirtle metropolis can be called one of the best games because of context, then game 7 of that series is probably the greatest throw of all time

what about MKP-Nestea game 7?

what about DRG-Life game 7?
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
May 08 2013 03:16 GMT
#67
On May 08 2013 12:05 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

NesTea, IdrA and Ret can probably split all ten among themselves


I don't think I've ever seen nor heard of any epic thrown games coming from Ret, got any examples?
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 08 2013 03:18 GMT
#68
On May 08 2013 12:05 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:54 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 11:52 Waxangel wrote:
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?


if Mvp-Squirtle metropolis can be called one of the best games because of context, then game 7 of that series is probably the greatest throw of all time

what about MKP-Nestea game 7?

what about DRG-Life game 7?

i don't think it was that bad was it
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TL+ Member
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 08 2013 03:19 GMT
#69
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

Wasn't there an Inca game on crevasse?
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 03:28:54
May 08 2013 03:23 GMT
#70
On May 08 2013 12:16 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 12:05 StarVe wrote:
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

NesTea, IdrA and Ret can probably split all ten among themselves


I don't think I've ever seen nor heard of any epic thrown games coming from Ret, got any examples?

nah, but he's like unmatched (well, NesTea is probably worse) in how cost inefficient he sometimes manages to be with lategame armies, he often gets a seemingly unsurmountable advantage and the ultimate army of death and then move commands his twenty broodlords into marines or vikings without any support at all, similar stories with different unit compositions

I remember the quarterfinal at DH Stockholm last year vs Polt on Ohana, that might have been a decent example, but I'm not 100% sure.

Eh, just rewatched it, nah, that wasn't one of them.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 03:28:35
May 08 2013 03:28 GMT
#71
sorry, wanted to edit and misclicked
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 08 2013 03:53 GMT
#72
So happy for Suppy. Despite the fact that Heart may have thrown it, whether he threw it or not Suppy won 2-0 and advanced.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
May 08 2013 04:19 GMT
#73
GO SUPPY! Can't wait to see what he can do after some time in Korea.
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
May 08 2013 04:23 GMT
#74
On May 08 2013 11:01 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 10:35 Sermokala wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:47 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:33 hawk123 wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:25 Cyro wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


I heard a few people call it the greatest game, as soon as i saw that it went on for another half hour after the earlier events, i was slamming head into desk repeatedly. Look at 12:10. Seriously. When he floated to 4, 5, 6, 7k without building any more production or orbitals...


Obviously you dislike suppy for some reason. Lose your envy and enjoy the entertainment...no one is saying its the highest level of play but was fun to watch.


I have nothing against suppy, or heart

but the game was awful XD

The extent of the terran throw makes it impossible for me to enjoy it, and i think that's why it shouldnt be called one of the best games

People making any good game into a "throw" has literaly ruined esports for me.

Some people simply want to ruin other peoples fun and to be miserable. It was a really good game that was exiting to watch.


some people like different things

stop trying to ascribe that as some kind of personality flaw

guy said he didn't like the game, he wasn't telling you to hate it too


Was just about to post the same exact thing, but obviously you beat me to it. Not everyone has to like the games that everyone else does.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 08 2013 04:24 GMT
#75
FUCK YEAH! Caught this live, hell yeah Suppy <3
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 08 2013 04:38 GMT
#76
And Suppy apparently having wrist problems lol. These guys are gonna have to have prosthetic arms by the time they're old. Really sad actually.
poeticEnnui
Profile Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
May 08 2013 04:41 GMT
#77
Excellent work by Suppy. I don't know how many of you saw him streaming literally minutes before his WCS matches, but he was on a huge losing streak to DeMusliM and very clearly disappointed -- the fact that he managed to overcome that and take his game to the next level is a testament not only to his ability but his potential to improve.

Suppy fighting!
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
May 08 2013 05:25 GMT
#78
Suppy really suprising, ruining my predictions!
But great stuff, best of luck in the ro8
Kyuhyuck
Profile Joined April 2013
Korea (South)40 Posts
May 08 2013 05:28 GMT
#79
I never believed suppy would get this far. Cngratulations for him and i hope he goes furtherr
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jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
May 08 2013 05:32 GMT
#80
Suppy is good now
Moofadoobada
Profile Joined February 2011
United States266 Posts
May 08 2013 05:32 GMT
#81
On May 08 2013 12:19 monk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

Wasn't there an Inca game on crevasse?



more like any inca zvp especially the inca nestea final....all of those games make me shudder
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
May 08 2013 05:35 GMT
#82
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

MKP nuking his own army?

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Bermuda
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium411 Posts
May 08 2013 05:52 GMT
#83
On May 08 2013 14:35 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

MKP nuking his own army?




IIRC he won that game ? Not sure anymore, I could be wrong... All I remember is that sweet move : seeker missile on his own medivac then turbo boost it into his opponent army for AoE damage. Man, that was sweet. :p
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 08 2013 05:55 GMT
#84
On May 08 2013 14:52 Bermuda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 14:35 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

MKP nuking his own army?




IIRC he won that game ? Not sure anymore, I could be wrong... All I remember is that sweet move : seeker missile on his own medivac then turbo boost it into his opponent army for AoE damage. Man, that was sweet. :p


I think you are thinking about Bomber in MLG?
Bermuda
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 06:03:00
May 08 2013 06:01 GMT
#85
On May 08 2013 14:55 DannyJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 14:52 Bermuda wrote:
On May 08 2013 14:35 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

MKP nuking his own army?




IIRC he won that game ? Not sure anymore, I could be wrong... All I remember is that sweet move : seeker missile on his own medivac then turbo boost it into his opponent army for AoE damage. Man, that was sweet. :p


I think you are thinking about Bomber in MLG?


Yes I am ! Obviously. Too many terrans nuking themselves :p

What game is he referencing ?
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 22:38:37
May 08 2013 08:03 GMT
#86
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say


I don't know about biggest throw, but I have seen plenty
That's a fact, that games can be affected by things that are not part of game (starcraft) itself
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 08 2013 08:52 GMT
#87
On May 08 2013 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
And Suppy apparently having wrist problems lol. These guys are gonna have to have prosthetic arms by the time they're old. Really sad actually.

Didn't think he was...
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 09:35:37
May 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#88
really glad to hear that about suppy's success. suppy's story is an easy one to like. He is personable and genuine, and most of all clearly a very intelligent unit as shown to the public with his post game analysis on his stream; there's never a sense of total frustration, and he seems to have a keen understanding of the machinations behind the dynamics of winning and losing games.

edit: just watched the highly recommended game 2 vs heart and it's clear that before suppy's (first) attack at like 17 minutes heart's macro was afk hence why people call this a throw but still a good comeback and good cost effectiveness by suppy after that point
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Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 08 2013 09:13 GMT
#89
On May 08 2013 11:52 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?


if Mvp-Squirtle metropolis can be called one of the best games because of context, then game 7 of that series is probably the greatest throw of all time



Agreed, that was painful.

Although I seem to recall another game with proxy 2-rax vs 2 hatch before pool and then managing to lose it. That takes quite some doing.
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Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
May 08 2013 15:02 GMT
#90
I wouldn’t say Korean American and Chinese American doing well is much of an upset and it doesn’t warrant a sensationalist news post.
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Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 08 2013 15:04 GMT
#91
On May 09 2013 00:02 Zax19 wrote:
I wouldn’t say Korean American and Chinese American doing well is much of an upset and it doesn’t warrant a sensationalist news post.


You're dumb.


Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 15:14:43
May 08 2013 15:14 GMT
#92
On May 09 2013 00:02 Zax19 wrote:
I wouldn’t say Korean American and Chinese American doing well is much of an upset and it doesn’t warrant a sensationalist news post.

It's not like it's genes that make Koreans better at the game; they are good mainly because their culture allows for more dedication to practice and because of the better infrastructure with pro houses and such. So being American with Korean roots really doesn't help you... And I really don't know what you're getting at with the Chinese part; the Chinese aren't even that good at sc2...
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
May 08 2013 15:17 GMT
#93
Glad Suppy made it out. Hope to see some more foreigners progressing around the WCS.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 15:56:18
May 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#94
On May 08 2013 15:01 Bermuda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 14:55 DannyJ wrote:
On May 08 2013 14:52 Bermuda wrote:
On May 08 2013 14:35 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 08 2013 11:08 opterown wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:50 monk wrote:
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

Definitely not the biggest throw. Perhaps top 10.

what do you think the biggest throws in sc2 have been?

MKP nuking his own army?




IIRC he won that game ? Not sure anymore, I could be wrong... All I remember is that sweet move : seeker missile on his own medivac then turbo boost it into his opponent army for AoE damage. Man, that was sweet. :p


I think you are thinking about Bomber in MLG?


Yes I am ! Obviously. Too many terrans nuking themselves :p

What game is he referencing ?

Marineking nuking his own army: Marineking vs Drewbie on Shattered Temple at some MLG, lost the game, won the series IIRC.
Seeker missile on trubovac: Bomber vs Gowser on Whirlwind, last MLG
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 16:06:41
May 08 2013 16:02 GMT
#95
Guys.
If there was one game that always stick in my mind(the worst throw game ever).

It was Inca vs Rain on Crevasse.
GSL May 2011 if i am not mistaken.
The one nestea 4-0 Inca.

Go watch that guys.
Inca show that you can still win even though you got NO BASE.
lol.
Rain throw that so so hard.

Top 1 throw game ever.

+ Show Spoiler +
Play your best
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
May 08 2013 16:10 GMT
#96
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

It's like the game Flying just played where he goes out with a 6-Colossi/Massive-Stalker army vs a Roach/Hydra/Corruptor/Swarm Host army and he lets the Colossi get massacred by the Corruptors. You just look at it and go: What? :p
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 08 2013 16:11 GMT
#97
On May 09 2013 01:10 blackbrrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 06:21 Cyro wrote:
That Suppy game was stupid as hell.

Heart floated to somewhere around 7-8k resources while zerg had 0 bank - at one point he was up about 130 supply zerg vs maxed terran, while being ahead on upgrades, bases;

He literally managed to throw a game from being up a base vs zerg with a 7k vs 0 bank by IIRC, splitting up his army, taking really bad engagements, having very few production facilities, and losing most of his production and several orbitals to an army that couldn't shoot up, and even while this was going on, had 3-5k minerals, but didn't think to build any more production literally anywhere.

It's the biggest throw i have seen in professional sc2, period

I mean, Grats to Suppy for winning, but the game was not his and i am sure he knew that.

He lost all the drones at the third, lost 17 banelings to a single widow mine shot, terran had a 50% supply lead, upgrade lead, worker lead, like holy shit, Heart deserves a medal for losing that game. It's like he took a bathroom break for 5 minutes because he felt he was too far ahead, and came back after losing all of his shit and even then he should have won but he didn't, i don't even know what to say

It's like the game Flying just played where he goes out with a 6-Colossi/Massive-Stalker army vs a Roach/Hydra/Corruptor/Swarm Host army and he lets the Colossi get massacred by the Corruptors. You just look at it and go: What? :p


Nah.
Flying game is nowhere near a throw.
He just had mediocre army control
Probably got overconfident and blinked into locust/hydra and underestimating the zerg army.
Play your best
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 08 2013 16:14 GMT
#98
you know its bad when an american making it through in an american tournament is a 'shock'

rofl :-/
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 08 2013 17:26 GMT
#99
On May 09 2013 01:14 Nekovivie wrote:
you know its bad when an american making it through in an american tournament is a 'shock'

rofl :-/


MLG events are korean show for a pretty long time now, so nothing new.
Cal`Sky
Profile Joined March 2013
United States8 Posts
May 08 2013 18:23 GMT
#100
On May 08 2013 17:52 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 13:38 Doodsmack wrote:
And Suppy apparently having wrist problems lol. These guys are gonna have to have prosthetic arms by the time they're old. Really sad actually.

Didn't think he was...


i think he confused Suppy with Scarlett...
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Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
May 08 2013 18:26 GMT
#101
On May 09 2013 00:02 Zax19 wrote:
I wouldn’t say Korean American and Chinese American doing well is much of an upset and it doesn’t warrant a sensationalist news post.



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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 08 2013 18:43 GMT
#102
On May 08 2013 07:22 Sermokala wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IXJ8JzNVg

I'm legitimately saying that this is the greatest game I've seen in a long long time. Suppy vs heart game 2. Things get out of control like 15 minutes into the video and the game doesn't end for another 23 minutes. Everyones hanging around 100 good as they scramble to rebuild base's and stop the other guy from doing the same. An ultra that wouldn't die, ravens ravens everywhere, inredible micro by heart time and time again all building up to a frantic pace at the end where you have no idea whos going to win and you just enjoy the game for what it is.

Also Axslav really comes into his own on this cast. keeps up the hype on the slow parts and does a good job while being alone for the whole thing.


This game was actually hugely entertaining, good thing you posted this, everyone should watch it.

It's got a good deal of mistakes but an even greater deal of very cool play. The use of Ravens was wonderful to watch and I admire Suppy's ability to throw out the unit being targeted so as to not take aoe damage. All in all, it was a very close game down to the last few minutes.

+ Show Spoiler +
That hero Ultralisk, I actually felt bad when he died, JUST at the end of the game. Wonder how many kills he had.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 08 2013 19:18 GMT
#103
Nerchio poland go!
bloodyrooster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States15 Posts
May 09 2013 12:47 GMT
#104
How is Suppy American? Now were buying Koreans?
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 12:51:55
May 09 2013 12:51 GMT
#105
On May 09 2013 21:47 bloodyrooster wrote:
How is Suppy American? Now were buying Koreans?

People with an Asian decent can't be americans anymore? I thought that being open to immigrants was what made you country so strong in many areas?
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 09 2013 13:11 GMT
#106
On May 08 2013 06:26 Kontys wrote:
I am mightily delighted :D

If there's a single foreigner out there who isn't on Team Suppy, I will be very suprised :D


I was on the fence until I saw the gif of him dancing about all silly-like, now I'm totally on board.
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Paramo
Profile Joined July 2008
Mexico138 Posts
May 09 2013 13:13 GMT
#107
Just watched the VODS. Great job Suppy! That play was so solid :D
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
May 09 2013 13:13 GMT
#108
On May 09 2013 21:47 bloodyrooster wrote:
How is Suppy American? Now were buying Koreans?


Anyone named Conan is american
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#109
This community really misuses the term "throwing a game". In fact, I think most of the people who use it don't know that it implies intentionally losing in order to fix a bet.

Using the term "throwing a game" really takes away from a win, and it drives me nuts. Ok, so one player was ahead. Maybe by a lot. Comebacks happen all the time in regular sports, and they're *always* lauded as a great performance by the team that was behind, instead of mocking the team that was ahead.
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
May 09 2013 16:30 GMT
#110
On May 10 2013 01:28 Crownlol wrote:
This community really misuses the term "throwing a game". In fact, I think most of the people who use it don't know that it implies intentionally losing in order to fix a bet.

Using the term "throwing a game" really takes away from a win, and it drives me nuts. Ok, so one player was ahead. Maybe by a lot. Comebacks happen all the time in regular sports, and they're *always* lauded as a great performance by the team that was behind, instead of mocking the team that was ahead.


But you're forgetting how cool it is to be cynical on the internet.
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Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
May 09 2013 16:37 GMT
#111
On May 09 2013 21:47 bloodyrooster wrote:
How is Suppy American? Now were buying Koreans?


......

......

Did you check his Liquipedia? It looks like he is American born and raised. If Suppy's not American, then I'm not. And I've spent every one of my 22 years in Arkansas.

GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 09 2013 16:39 GMT
#112
On May 10 2013 01:37 Mauldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 21:47 bloodyrooster wrote:
How is Suppy American? Now were buying Koreans?


......

......

Did you check his Liquipedia? It looks like he is American born and raised. If Suppy's not American, then I'm not. And I've spent every one of my 22 years in Arkansas.



he is just jealous because he is a nobody and doesn't study at one of the top universities in usa
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
May 09 2013 16:40 GMT
#113
On May 10 2013 01:39 GunSec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 01:37 Mauldo wrote:
On May 09 2013 21:47 bloodyrooster wrote:
How is Suppy American? Now were buying Koreans?


......

......

Did you check his Liquipedia? It looks like he is American born and raised. If Suppy's not American, then I'm not. And I've spent every one of my 22 years in Arkansas.



he is just jealous because he is a nobody and doesn't study at one of the top universities in usa


Must be. I mean fuck, just listen to Suppy speak. If that's a Korean accent then I'm from Australia.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 09 2013 16:53 GMT
#114
On May 10 2013 01:30 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 01:28 Crownlol wrote:
This community really misuses the term "throwing a game". In fact, I think most of the people who use it don't know that it implies intentionally losing in order to fix a bet.

Using the term "throwing a game" really takes away from a win, and it drives me nuts. Ok, so one player was ahead. Maybe by a lot. Comebacks happen all the time in regular sports, and they're *always* lauded as a great performance by the team that was behind, instead of mocking the team that was ahead.


But you're forgetting how cool it is to be cynical on the internet.


Ah yes, I did forget about that. I'd rather be a happy excitable fanboy than a sullen basement dweller, but to each his own.
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
May 11 2013 22:49 GMT
#115
On May 10 2013 01:28 Crownlol wrote:
This community really misuses the term "throwing a game". In fact, I think most of the people who use it don't know that it implies intentionally losing in order to fix a bet.

Using the term "throwing a game" really takes away from a win, and it drives me nuts. Ok, so one player was ahead. Maybe by a lot. Comebacks happen all the time in regular sports, and they're *always* lauded as a great performance by the team that was behind, instead of mocking the team that was ahead.

"throwing a game" can mean many things, it could mean that the one that had very good chance of winning made some mistakes and lost, but it doesn't say if these mistakes were made intentionally or not
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