MajOr and HerO forced to play WCS Matches on NA? - Page 34

On May 02 2013 00:21 xdesertfisch wrote:
i think it makes complete sense to me:
if you are chosing NA as your region, you might as well deal with the lag.
You dont want the lag?
Go and play in Korea!

On May 02 2013 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:


TL team managers could have emailed us direct instead of creating a forum thread. I don't get what something like this is expected to do outside of creating a mountain out of a mole hill.

As to the issue at hand, this is the first we're hearing of complaints. If players choose to play on NA, they are expected to deal with the region's server and schedule.

We're working very hard to improve upon the rocky qualifier start. Any players, teams, etc. should contact us directly through the appropriate communication channels to discuss concerns around the competition.

On May 02 2013 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:


TL team managers could have emailed us direct instead of creating a forum thread. I don't get what something like this is expected to do outside of creating a mountain out of a mole hill.

As to the issue at hand, this is the first we're hearing of complaints. If players choose to play on NA, they are expected to deal with the region's server and schedule.

We're working very hard to improve upon the rocky qualifier start. Any players, teams, etc. should contact us directly through the appropriate communication channels to discuss concerns around the competition.

On May 02 2013 00:52 fleeze wrote:

so, you just came here to blame TL. without making a statement to the topic.
classy.

On May 02 2013 00:52 fleeze wrote:

so, you just came here to blame TL. without making a statement to the topic.
classy.

On May 02 2013 00:48 MLG_Adam wrote:


TL team managers could have emailed us direct instead of creating a forum thread. I don't get what something like this is expected to do outside of creating a mountain out of a mole hill.

As to the issue at hand, this is the first we're hearing of complaints. If players choose to play on NA, they are expected to deal with the region's server and schedule.

We're working very hard to improve upon the rocky qualifier start. Any players, teams, etc. should contact us directly through the appropriate communication channels to discuss concerns around the competition.

On May 02 2013 00:54 Plansix wrote:


I really didn't expect that or assumed that the teams had contacted MLG about the issue. Creating a forum thread is the least professional way to handle the problem. It must be awesome to come into work the next day and find this thing that you weren't even aware of when you left work the day before.

On May 02 2013 00:19 Snorkle wrote:
What a farce WCSNA would be if it was all koreans playing from korea on korean sever. It clearly states what server the tournament will be on don't cry about it later.

On May 02 2013 01:00 Spektor wrote:


I agree, and I believe this was talked about before with people contacting sponsors instead of going to the team itself. All it does is rile people up, like the purpose of this thread, instead of discussing their complaints with the actual organization.

MLG_Adam
If players choose to play on NA, they are expected to deal with the region's server and schedule.

On May 02 2013 01:00 Tppz! wrote:


Waxangel aint part of the team:
http://www.teamliquidpro.com/players

check your stats. and obviously the players talked to you and tried to make you change the region they play on for their kr-kr matches.

its this way you work that makes you problems. "there is a rule about that but everyone would agree that it makes more sense to do it the supposed way? well lets allow it in this case since its just for better games on which everyone would gain something. but no there is a rule. we cant change."
thats why ppl like esls administration and organisation a lot more. they think about the stuff and change if it makes more sense.

On May 02 2013 01:05 Plansix wrote:

Waxangel is a member of the Team Liquid staff, which sponsors the Team Liquid SC2 and Dota2 teams.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid.net_Staff

On May 02 2013 00:58 MLG_Adam wrote:


I clearly made a statement: the server you play on along with the match schedule come with the WCS region you choose to play in. If players or teams wanted to discuss it more, they have the appropriate channels to continue this discussion. I'm happy to discuss this more with anyone playing (or managing someone playing).

On May 02 2013 01:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote:


That's the Site staff buddy. Waxangel does write-ups and translations, but he's not part of the Team's actual management or decision-making staff.

On May 02 2013 01:09 askmc70 wrote:

Yes players do have to read and comply with the rules with mlg, but why do you have to over complicate things and just let them play on the korean server? you are making things more difficult compared to something much more easier ie playing on korean server. By letting them play on the korean server they dont have to deal with lag, and much more there does not have to be much more drama and threads about how mlg sucks....

On May 02 2013 01:11 Plansix wrote:

I guess we can split hairs like that if we really want to. I think MLG can still be grumpy and request that Team Liquid and its staff for both the site and team not make threads like this without sending a single email. That is the level of professional courtesy I would expect.

On May 02 2013 00:58 MLG_Adam wrote:


I clearly made a statement: the server you play on along with the match schedule come with the WCS region you choose to play in. If players or teams wanted to discuss it more, they have the appropriate channels to continue this discussion. I'm happy to discuss this more with anyone playing (or managing someone playing).

On May 02 2013 01:01 Blargh wrote:

(It's a farce right now)

Assuming they allowed the KR server to be used for KR vs. KR players, I still do not think a huge amount of Koreans would switch over. Qualifying for it would be a huge risk when they are already qualified for a WCS. Plus, it's not like they would have no latency (KR server) for a majority of their matches (there will always be more Americans playing WCS AM than Koreans...) so that likely wouldn't happen.

I'm sure Major thought WCS would be intelligent enough to let them play KR server since they are both in KR currently. He should have known that they were retarded!!

And for all of the people saying "Well you wouldn't have noticed if it was cross-server anyway", that argument is total shit. We wouldn't "notice" because we have no way of knowing what mistakes were because the player messed up or if it was the latency. It can ONLY make the match worse, which is stupid. The players are STILL affected by this, and it's a large nuisance playing cross-server, if you've ever tried. Microing properly is much harder with 300ms lag than it is with 75ms lag. And the players are the biggest concern with a tournament since they are the ones that actually bring the views, so you should probably accommodate them with shit like this.

Zzzzzzz... you people.


Assuming they talked with the organization directly and they still said "no" (sounds like what happened...?) then having a thread just like this is an indicator of what MLG should do if they want to please their fans and players. If you have a thread about a decision you made with 75% of people saying it's retarded and the other 25% being retarded, then you might want to reconsider your decision for the future or even immediately.
MAYBE WE SHOULD CONTACT MLG'S SPONSORS AND TELL THEM THEIR DECISIONS WERE TOTALLY RETARDED AND NEVER BUY PEPSI AGAIN (is Pepsi even their sponsor any more? Hell if I know).