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On May 01 2013 19:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:40 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please tell me what you do if when you change the rule, Apocalypse demands a rematch with Nestea on KR server? I don't think he would bother. He got through... -.- if he demands and lose again, then lose to minigun he'd be in deep shit LOL But let's say that he does. And let's say he wins this time. What about Minigun? What about Fenix who then claims that he would have played better if he knew it was Nestea he might be facing? Where does it end? edit: are Ro16 groups randomized, or will their be group selections like in GSL?
I edited my post. Just before you posted. Sorry. But anyways don't waste your energy thinking of the impossible. A rematch like that is not gonna happen even if rule changed.
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On May 01 2013 19:43 yrt123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:40 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please tell me what you do if when you change the rule, Apocalypse demands a rematch with Nestea on KR server? I don't think he would bother. He got through... -.- if he demands and lose again, then lose to minigun he'd be in deep shit LOL But let's say that he does. And let's say he wins this time. What about Minigun? What about Fenix who then claims that he would have played better if he knew it was Nestea he might be facing? Where does it end? edit: are Ro16 groups randomized, or will their be group selections like in GSL? I edited my post. Just before you posted. Sorry. But anyways don't waste your energy thinking of the impossible. A rematch like that is not gonna happen even if rule changed.
Well of course Nestea says no, NOW that he's won. But that's not fair. He wouldn't have said no if he was given the choice originally. To be fair you would have to play the entire group over again.
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On May 01 2013 19:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:43 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:40 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please tell me what you do if when you change the rule, Apocalypse demands a rematch with Nestea on KR server? I don't think he would bother. He got through... -.- if he demands and lose again, then lose to minigun he'd be in deep shit LOL But let's say that he does. And let's say he wins this time. What about Minigun? What about Fenix who then claims that he would have played better if he knew it was Nestea he might be facing? Where does it end? edit: are Ro16 groups randomized, or will their be group selections like in GSL? I edited my post. Just before you posted. Sorry. But anyways don't waste your energy thinking of the impossible. A rematch like that is not gonna happen even if rule changed. Well of course Nestea says no, NOW that he's won. But that's not fair. He wouldn't have said no if he was given the choice originally. To be fair you would have to play the entire group over again.
okok. Think of it like this. MLG changed WCS Qualifiers to Master+ for the Challenger Qualifiers after people complained about the first one. There was a rule change that only Master and above are allowed to compete for WCS.
Originally in the Permier Qualifier there was no such rule yet. Did they replay the Premier Qualifiers after the rule change? Nope
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On May 01 2013 18:40 Nekovivie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 10:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
lt's WCS NA so it should be played on the na server. Leaning towards this. It kinda loses the NA vibe if the matches are in Korea..
Ya I'm sure you would have noticed that...
"man I dont know what it is, but the vibe in these games is so unamerican! They must be playing on KR server except on NA"
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On May 01 2013 19:48 yrt123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:43 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:40 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please tell me what you do if when you change the rule, Apocalypse demands a rematch with Nestea on KR server? I don't think he would bother. He got through... -.- if he demands and lose again, then lose to minigun he'd be in deep shit LOL But let's say that he does. And let's say he wins this time. What about Minigun? What about Fenix who then claims that he would have played better if he knew it was Nestea he might be facing? Where does it end? edit: are Ro16 groups randomized, or will their be group selections like in GSL? I edited my post. Just before you posted. Sorry. But anyways don't waste your energy thinking of the impossible. A rematch like that is not gonna happen even if rule changed. Well of course Nestea says no, NOW that he's won. But that's not fair. He wouldn't have said no if he was given the choice originally. To be fair you would have to play the entire group over again. okok. Think of it like this. MLG changed WCS Qualifiers to Master+ for the Challenger Qualifiers after people complained about the first one. There was a rule change that only Master and above are allowed to compete for WCS. Originally in the Permier Qualifier there was no such rule yet. Did they replay the Premier Qualifiers after the rule change? Nope
You're talking about two different qualifiers though. What you're suggesting would be more like if they decided during Round 4 of the Premier qualifiers to change the rule and kick out every non-Master player. Changing the rules after the event is fine, changing the rules during the event is highly inappropriate.
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On May 01 2013 19:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:48 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:43 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:40 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please tell me what you do if when you change the rule, Apocalypse demands a rematch with Nestea on KR server? I don't think he would bother. He got through... -.- if he demands and lose again, then lose to minigun he'd be in deep shit LOL But let's say that he does. And let's say he wins this time. What about Minigun? What about Fenix who then claims that he would have played better if he knew it was Nestea he might be facing? Where does it end? edit: are Ro16 groups randomized, or will their be group selections like in GSL? I edited my post. Just before you posted. Sorry. But anyways don't waste your energy thinking of the impossible. A rematch like that is not gonna happen even if rule changed. Well of course Nestea says no, NOW that he's won. But that's not fair. He wouldn't have said no if he was given the choice originally. To be fair you would have to play the entire group over again. okok. Think of it like this. MLG changed WCS Qualifiers to Master+ for the Challenger Qualifiers after people complained about the first one. There was a rule change that only Master and above are allowed to compete for WCS. Originally in the Permier Qualifier there was no such rule yet. Did they replay the Premier Qualifiers after the rule change? Nope You're talking about two different qualifiers though. What you're suggesting would be more like if they decided during Round 4 of the Premier qualifiers to change the rule and kick out every non-Master player. Changing the rules after the event is fine, changing the rules during the event is highly inappropriate.
Not inappropriate if rules are stupid.
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I don't understand how there could be any decision about this.... They should ofc. be allowed to play on Korea!
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On May 01 2013 19:53 thOr6136 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:48 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:43 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:40 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please tell me what you do if when you change the rule, Apocalypse demands a rematch with Nestea on KR server? I don't think he would bother. He got through... -.- if he demands and lose again, then lose to minigun he'd be in deep shit LOL But let's say that he does. And let's say he wins this time. What about Minigun? What about Fenix who then claims that he would have played better if he knew it was Nestea he might be facing? Where does it end? edit: are Ro16 groups randomized, or will their be group selections like in GSL? I edited my post. Just before you posted. Sorry. But anyways don't waste your energy thinking of the impossible. A rematch like that is not gonna happen even if rule changed. Well of course Nestea says no, NOW that he's won. But that's not fair. He wouldn't have said no if he was given the choice originally. To be fair you would have to play the entire group over again. okok. Think of it like this. MLG changed WCS Qualifiers to Master+ for the Challenger Qualifiers after people complained about the first one. There was a rule change that only Master and above are allowed to compete for WCS. Originally in the Permier Qualifier there was no such rule yet. Did they replay the Premier Qualifiers after the rule change? Nope You're talking about two different qualifiers though. What you're suggesting would be more like if they decided during Round 4 of the Premier qualifiers to change the rule and kick out every non-Master player. Changing the rules after the event is fine, changing the rules during the event is highly inappropriate. Not inappropriate if rules are stupid.
Even then, as long as the rules are not game-breaking or inherently unfair to one party, it is not okay to just change them. It destroys the integrity of the competition and more importantly: is highly unfair to the players who played under the rules already.
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well the game against each other they should play allowed to play on KR since no one gets a disadvantage there, but if a NA player is involved in the macth it should be played on NA
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On May 01 2013 19:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 19:48 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:45 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:43 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:40 yrt123 wrote:On May 01 2013 19:36 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please tell me what you do if when you change the rule, Apocalypse demands a rematch with Nestea on KR server? I don't think he would bother. He got through... -.- if he demands and lose again, then lose to minigun he'd be in deep shit LOL But let's say that he does. And let's say he wins this time. What about Minigun? What about Fenix who then claims that he would have played better if he knew it was Nestea he might be facing? Where does it end? edit: are Ro16 groups randomized, or will their be group selections like in GSL? I edited my post. Just before you posted. Sorry. But anyways don't waste your energy thinking of the impossible. A rematch like that is not gonna happen even if rule changed. Well of course Nestea says no, NOW that he's won. But that's not fair. He wouldn't have said no if he was given the choice originally. To be fair you would have to play the entire group over again. okok. Think of it like this. MLG changed WCS Qualifiers to Master+ for the Challenger Qualifiers after people complained about the first one. There was a rule change that only Master and above are allowed to compete for WCS. Originally in the Permier Qualifier there was no such rule yet. Did they replay the Premier Qualifiers after the rule change? Nope You're talking about two different qualifiers though. What you're suggesting would be more like if they decided during Round 4 of the Premier qualifiers to change the rule and kick out every non-Master player. Changing the rules after the event is fine, changing the rules during the event is highly inappropriate.
It is the same. The result of Group E is not related to and is independent of the result of other groups in ro32. While you may say that they are all a part of ro32 group stage, so long as the result is independent of and does not affect that of other groups, I don't see the problem. Wait why did it come to this? I wasn't even arguing about whether they would change the rule or not but that there would be no rematch EVEN IF the rule was changed. You topic changer you.
In fact you could say that the rule change DOES matter for Permier to Challenger Qualifier because of the fact that 9-40th from Permier Qualifier gets direct invite to Challenger Qualifier. The rule change could have resulted in different people ranking 9-40th in Premier Qualifiers and therefore also the participants of Challenger Qualifier. Now it gets back to the post you quoted. Nope not replayed.
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What a dumb decision -.- WCS NA already has the lesser players by far, why do they have to make the games even worse with rubbish like this...
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I think it would be fine if both players agreed to not admit that they have played on the korean server.
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In a big event where money and reputation are at stake, rules are rules. I respect the decision to remain consistent.
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I get pissed off everytime i read "It's WCS NA" instead of WCS America/s.
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It's unfortunate, because it doesn't deter Koreans when they have to play other Koreans on NA instead of KR. They will think it is too bad because everyone is uncomfortable and plays worse , but realistically they realize skill wise nothing changes between them and their opponent. There will be no noticeable effects to the WCS signups by having this rule. It may satisfy a few people who out of spite enjoy everyone being uncomfortable, though.
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NA event, play on NA server. You didn't have to pick NA as your region (double for HerO)
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On May 01 2013 20:07 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
It's unfortunate, because it doesn't deter Koreans when they have to play other Koreans on NA instead of KR. They will think it is too bad because everyone is uncomfortable and plays worse , but realistically they realize skill wise nothing changes between them and their opponent. There will be no noticeable effects to the WCS signups by having this rule. It may satisfy a few people who out of spite enjoy everyone being uncomfortable, though.
Why do you assume that the people who agree with the decision are spiteful? I personally understand MLGs and Blizzard's stance that players need to play on the server they agreed to play on. Exceptions lead to more exceptions in cases like this, with the same argument that "the game won't be impacted and both the players are on equal footing". I understand your player were would prefer to play on KR, but I am sure a lot of players would prefer to play on the server that gave them the least lag.
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On May 01 2013 20:13 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 20:07 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I understand your player were would prefer to play on KR, but I am sure a lot of players would prefer to play on the server that gave them the least lag.
If both players want to play on the same server then that wish should always be respected
It's not just nazguls player that wants it, it's his opponent too
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