EPTWCS EU Premier Division Groups & Casters Announced - Page 10
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nuki
Russian Federation118 Posts
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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Grovbolle
Denmark3825 Posts
On April 20 2013 14:18 AceOfCakez wrote: Where's MC? He played code S in Korea, and couldn't try to qualify for premier division. AFAIK he will try to qualify for challenger division. | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
On April 20 2013 18:13 Nerchio wrote: Tip for all of you guys : bet against the zergs. thats a bit whiny, isnt it ? Why are all zergs complaining if there's no real evidence for REAL imbalances ? | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3825 Posts
On April 20 2013 18:26 arkedos wrote: thats a bit whiny, isnt it ? Why are all zergs complaining if there's no real evidence for REAL imbalances ? You must be new here :D | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
Ah not that new :> I know that many players are complaining for the sake of complaining. | ||
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HighdraL1sk
United States140 Posts
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
feel free to shotgun ownership of the threads here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmSWvdJKFl92dFZjbXlDUmVrUFJrR2lhR2ZzMXNTS3c&usp=sharing yay :D | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4540 Posts
On April 20 2013 07:32 Prplppleatr wrote: Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree. Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast. Naniwa > Mana by far and TLO (at least a little bit) has been pretty much the only zerg able to keep up with all the terrans at the top of the european ladder as of late... Group E is for sure the group of death | ||
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jiberish
80 Posts
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote: Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Ever watched him play tvt? On April 20 2013 20:42 jiberish wrote: WTF where is apollo casting? Dreamhack. I guess after that he will cast a little WCS too. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On April 20 2013 04:18 pepe08 wrote: [center]Aligulac Predictions: + Show Spoiler [Group A] + Top 2 1st 2nd 3rd 4th  ForGG 2-0 Bunny SaSe 1-2  sLivkoForGG 2-1 sLivkoBunny 2-1 SaSesLivko 1-2 BunnyForGG and Bunny advance!I allways like the aligulac predictions. But i do not understand how Sase/Slivko is 2nd in % but does not go threw to next round. Could someone plz explain? thx!  | ||
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Germany4057 Posts
I'm so excited | ||
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast What kinda logic is this?  On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:Naniwa > Mana by far Not sure about that.Haven't seen Naniwa play in HotS but Mana is pretty good.He's 9-2 in Acer Teamstory Cup beating Hyun,Apoclypse,Center,HwangSin,Miya,Ryung,Heart and Crank. I would argue that he is the best foreigner right now. Anyway,what do you think about your group Ret? | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3825 Posts
On April 20 2013 20:45 govie wrote: I allways like the aligulac predictions. But i do not understand how Sase/Slivko is 2nd in % but does not go threw to next round. Could someone plz explain? thx! Because Bunny is supposed to be able to beat both, but since Bunny gets an insta-loss due ForGG's massive TvT rating, Bunny only needs to mess up once to be out, where Slivko/Sase can mess up against eachother and still go through because they don't start at as a big a disadvantage as Bunny. Covered in our FAQ as well What people sometimes see when predicting single elimination brackets is that the player with the largest probability of winning is not predicted to win in the median results section. The reason this happens becomes clear with a small thought experiment. Suppose a player called Alan has a rating of 2000 and he finds himself on one side of a 16-man bracket together with seven other players rated 1999. On the other side of the bracket only one player showed up (Brian). He is also rated 1999, and now he has a bye all the way to the finals. So who is most likely to win this tournament? Is it Brian or Alan? Well, it's Brian actually. He has a 50% of beating any of the seven 1999-rated players that could come out of Alan's subbracket, and he has a slightly smaller probability (49.X%) of beating Alan, if he wins. So overall Brian's chances of winning are slightly less than 50%. On the other hand, Alan has to win four matches where he is the slight favourite in each of them. That amounts to a probability of slightly more than 12.5%. So clearly Brian is most likely to win. The way the median results work, however, is to take the least surprising result in each match. Since Alan is favoured against each player he meets, the least surprising result for each match he plays is that he wins. Thus, the median result is that Alan wins the tournament by narrowly edging out each match he plays. In summary, you can see such discrepancies if the distribution of skill on both sides of the brackets are uneven. The example above was extreme, but this is not such an uncommon phenomenon. I would definitely recommend to pay more attention to the probabilities than the median results if you are unsure. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On April 20 2013 21:08 Grovbolle wrote: Because Bunny is supposed to be able to beat both, but since Bunny gets an insta-loss due ForGG's massive TvT rating, Bunny only needs to mess up once to be out, where Slivko/Sase can mess up against eachother and still go through because they don't start at as a big a disadvantage as Bunny. Covered in our FAQ as well Thx for explaining | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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