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WCS EU Premier Division Groups & Casters Announced - Page 8

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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 19 2013 22:18 GMT
#141
On April 20 2013 07:14 Baum wrote:
I hope for three 60 minute games between Hasu and Happy.


Mjes, a long Happy vs protoss casted by ToD would be quite fitting.
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DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
April 19 2013 22:19 GMT
#142
On April 20 2013 07:11 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 04:24 DusTerr wrote:
I was really hoping for a native English caster with Kaelaris... (absolutely NO offence intended towards ToD - I find him to be a very knowledgeable caster.)


Personally i am pretty happy that they are keeping it European in terms of casters aswell, and i can't think of any other European caster that is a native English speaker aside from Apollo and TB.

i am a bit disappointed not to have apollo casting

i think apollo and kaelaris would have been a great duo
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
April 19 2013 22:20 GMT
#143
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 22:22:50
April 19 2013 22:22 GMT
#144
On April 20 2013 07:19 DOUDOU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 07:11 Prog455 wrote:
On April 20 2013 04:24 DusTerr wrote:
I was really hoping for a native English caster with Kaelaris... (absolutely NO offence intended towards ToD - I find him to be a very knowledgeable caster.)


Personally i am pretty happy that they are keeping it European in terms of casters aswell, and i can't think of any other European caster that is a native English speaker aside from Apollo and TB.

i am a bit disappointed not to have apollo casting

i think apollo and kaelaris would have been a great duo

This caster pairing is announced only for the Ro32, I'm quite certain Apollo will jump in somewhere in the later stages, he's just a bit preoccupied with DreamHack coming up now.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4529 Posts
April 19 2013 22:22 GMT
#145
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 19 2013 22:26 GMT
#146
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
April 19 2013 22:29 GMT
#147
On April 20 2013 07:14 Baum wrote:
I hope for three 60 minute games between Hasu and Happy.

haha, yes this could very well happen
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 22:34:22
April 19 2013 22:32 GMT
#148
On April 20 2013 07:26 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.

Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree.
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HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
April 19 2013 22:52 GMT
#149
Groups are cool, there's someone to cheer for in every single one of them. The casters are meh...
oh, hai
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 19 2013 22:54 GMT
#150
On April 20 2013 06:55 Heartland wrote:
I hate to be that guy but for some reason I feel like something's missing in the lineup. I can't pinpoint what it is. A lot of my favourite players are in. But none of the groups feel like they're super exciting.


For me, I stare at this tournament and see a tournament in which 3/4 of the players have been invited, which takes a lot of the excitement away (not necessarily saying that they are bad). But give it two or three seasons and this feeling of mine will surely go away.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 22:54:58
April 19 2013 22:54 GMT
#151
Players of Group E has done not very much in a while. But, then, calling MMA stronger than shuttle is hard to justify based on his results the last year.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 22:59:43
April 19 2013 22:58 GMT
#152
On April 20 2013 07:54 m0ck wrote:
Players of Group E has done not very much in a long time. But, then, calling MMA stronger than shuttle is hard to justify based on his results the last year.

Uh, what? It's already hard to justify Shuttle being better than someone like Fenix solely based on his results in the last year, I don't see how he can come even close to being considered stronger than or as good as MMA based on their respective results.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 19 2013 22:58 GMT
#153
On April 20 2013 07:54 m0ck wrote:
Players of Group E has done not very much in a while. But, then, calling MMA stronger than shuttle is hard to justify based on his results the last year.


MMA has looked better than Shuttle in HotS, even if he hasn't returned to his old peaks. He has done pretty well in the GSTL, and decently in the ATC, whereas Shuttle hasn't really done anything in a LAN setting in HotS IIRC.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
April 19 2013 23:19 GMT
#154
Wooah ToD casting this ^^ Groups look really balanced which should lead into great games. Can't wait to see the new studio too!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Basher_
Profile Joined January 2011
82 Posts
April 19 2013 23:27 GMT
#155
these are awesome
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 23:46:02
April 19 2013 23:37 GMT
#156
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

Naniwa and Kas level on HotS is unknown (except Kas being nomatch by ForGG during Acer Team Story Cup), it took 4 qualifiers to Shuttle to qualify, and TLO is zerg... Not the group of death for sure, but still maybe the most unpredictable group.

In group H MaNa and MMA have one of the better achievements in the world since HotS has been released, Feast was one of the best player in the qualifiers, SortOf has been training in Korea.

All groups are really stacked, I can't make say who's gonna go in Ro16, I think lucifron has a really good chance though.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 23:39:24
April 19 2013 23:38 GMT
#157
omg thanks for pointing that out, missed that Happy and Hasuobs are in the same group. And don't forget it is casted by Kaelaris, known to get endless games. So I assume they will meet 2 times.
Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
April 19 2013 23:50 GMT
#158
Really excited to see ToD casting more big events. I'm also torn on group D, I want both Socke and Dimaga to make it out but MVP is probably going to take the group.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
April 19 2013 23:59 GMT
#159
A: ForGG, Slivko
B: Lucifron, Happy
C: Ret, Thorzain
D: MVP, Socke
E: Nani, TLO
F: Nerchio, Dayshi
G: Stephano, Grubby
H: Mana, MMA
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Kazar
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany32 Posts
April 20 2013 00:08 GMT
#160
How is it possible that stephano and grubby are in one group in the vast majority of european major events for quite a long time ??? Maybe statistics tell another story, but it feels like it is like that ;D Sadly Grubby didn't look so good against stephano...
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