• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:55
CEST 20:55
KST 03:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Has online-only competition during the pandemic changed your enjoyment of pro SC2?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Syncronization issues and can't find games Remastered crash fix suggestions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9273 users

WCS EU Premier Division Groups & Casters Announced - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
262 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 20 2013 12:50 GMT
#201
On April 20 2013 21:43 Garnet wrote:
Only 2 casters?

How about you read about it before comlaining? The groups are played at different days and the games one after another. It also does not exclude people streaming in other languages. I don't know for sure, but usually ESL lets people cast in different languages too.
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
April 20 2013 12:50 GMT
#202
i like kaelaris but na will get much better caster :/ kinda sux
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
April 20 2013 12:51 GMT
#203
I'm gonna make a bold prediction - all terrans will go through to the next round. This is not balance whining, just a not-so-unreasonable expectation based on recent results and the composition of the groups! I have doubts about Bunny, but i'm betting on him continuing his great performance.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 20 2013 12:54 GMT
#204
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 07:32 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:26 StarVe wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.

Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree.


Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast. Naniwa > Mana by far and TLO (at least a little bit) has been pretty much the only zerg able to keep up with all the terrans at the top of the european ladder as of late...

Group E is for sure the group of death


How is Naniwa > Mana by far in Hots? Mana looks like a beast so far in ATC and Naniwa has not shown anything yet. I know he is top 100 GM in korea but ladder is ladder and Mana already proved himself in tournaments. Not saying Mana is definetly better or anything, but Naniwa > Mana by far? I dunno man :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 20 2013 12:54 GMT
#205
On April 20 2013 21:50 monsta wrote:
i like kaelaris but na will get much better caster :/ kinda sux

Will they? Is anything announced regarding that yet? If NA simply gets Axeltoss and Axslav, I'll gladly stick with Kaelaris and ToD.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 20 2013 12:59 GMT
#206
On April 20 2013 21:54 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 21:50 monsta wrote:
i like kaelaris but na will get much better caster :/ kinda sux

Will they? Is anything announced regarding that yet? If NA simply gets Axeltoss and Axslav, I'll gladly stick with Kaelaris and ToD.

pretty sure it's those two
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 20 2013 13:09 GMT
#207
lol @ the biggest tournament in both NA and EU having less good casters than Code A. would have really liked to see Apollo be a main caster (and i don't like Kaelaris, but apparently other people do so that's neither here nor there).

and whyyy does Grubby have to be in the same group as Stephano again <.< i suppose there's a decent chance they'll both make it out though.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 20 2013 13:26 GMT
#208
I'm pretty sure apollo will cast at some point.Maybe RO16 or region finals.
All I do is Stim.
katzenman
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany61 Posts
April 20 2013 13:35 GMT
#209
nice, cant wait for the start as many others i expected apollo to be the second caster,too but i think ToD is a great choice, i really like him as a caster !

is he moving to cologne then ? or will it be a skype cast for the online round?

govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 20 2013 13:37 GMT
#210
On April 20 2013 21:54 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 21:50 monsta wrote:
i like kaelaris but na will get much better caster :/ kinda sux

Will they? Is anything announced regarding that yet? If NA simply gets Axeltoss and Axslav, I'll gladly stick with Kaelaris and ToD.


Everyone has there favorites.. I personally think kaelaris, axeltoss, axslav, d9, husky, incontrol, tastosis, the pulsecrew etcetcetc are all good casters... I do not think any of these would have a negative impact on a broadcast of the WCS tournament..
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 14:11:14
April 20 2013 14:10 GMT
#211
Axeltoss and Axslav are decent but i think Kaelaris and ToD are better.
Cj hero | Zest
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 20 2013 14:13 GMT
#212
The glory of ToD shall prevail against the tides of ignorance. Behold his excellence!
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
April 20 2013 14:20 GMT
#213
On April 20 2013 22:35 katzenman wrote:
nice, cant wait for the start as many others i expected apollo to be the second caster,too but i think ToD is a great choice, i really like him as a caster !

is he moving to cologne then ? or will it be a skype cast for the online round?



He is moving to Cologne, according to twitter:

Yoan Merlo ‏@ToDsc2 17h

@followcassandra @Kaelaris I'll be in Germany the whole time, i'll cast the first groupstages and some playoffs
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
April 20 2013 14:23 GMT
#214
live casting from replay is so awful
katzenman
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany61 Posts
April 20 2013 14:29 GMT
#215
On April 20 2013 23:20 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 22:35 katzenman wrote:
nice, cant wait for the start as many others i expected apollo to be the second caster,too but i think ToD is a great choice, i really like him as a caster !

is he moving to cologne then ? or will it be a skype cast for the online round?



He is moving to Cologne, according to twitter:

Yoan Merlo ‏@ToDsc2 17h

@followcassandra @Kaelaris I'll be in Germany the whole time, i'll cast the first groupstages and some playoffs


nice, thank you !

grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 20 2013 14:34 GMT
#216
On April 20 2013 23:23 Moosy wrote:
live casting from replay is so awful

Where do you get that from?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 20 2013 14:38 GMT
#217
On April 20 2013 21:54 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:32 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:26 StarVe wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.

Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree.


Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast. Naniwa > Mana by far and TLO (at least a little bit) has been pretty much the only zerg able to keep up with all the terrans at the top of the european ladder as of late...

Group E is for sure the group of death


How is Naniwa > Mana by far in Hots? Mana looks like a beast so far in ATC and Naniwa has not shown anything yet. I know he is top 100 GM in korea but ladder is ladder and Mana already proved himself in tournaments. Not saying Mana is definetly better or anything, but Naniwa > Mana by far? I dunno man :D.


Nani is 30-0 in two recent Swedish Hots cups.
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
April 20 2013 14:43 GMT
#218
I wonder why people voted group H as group of death. Group E is way more deadly imo.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 20 2013 14:43 GMT
#219
On April 20 2013 23:38 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 21:54 Musicus wrote:
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:32 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:26 StarVe wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.

Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree.


Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast. Naniwa > Mana by far and TLO (at least a little bit) has been pretty much the only zerg able to keep up with all the terrans at the top of the european ladder as of late...

Group E is for sure the group of death


How is Naniwa > Mana by far in Hots? Mana looks like a beast so far in ATC and Naniwa has not shown anything yet. I know he is top 100 GM in korea but ladder is ladder and Mana already proved himself in tournaments. Not saying Mana is definetly better or anything, but Naniwa > Mana by far? I dunno man :D.


Nani is 30-0 in two recent Swedish Hots cups.


The kill-streak:

+ Show Spoiler +
2-0 vs Bobson
2-0 vs HobBe
2-0 vs Daz
2-0 vs StarNaN
2-0 vs RunA
2-0 vs oZone
2-0 vs dsMulti
2-0 vs Fruktig
2-0 vs Forsen
3-0 vs SjoW
3-0 vs Bischu
3-0 vs StarNaN
3-0 vs MorroW
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
YuiHirasawa
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan220 Posts
April 20 2013 14:56 GMT
#220
Mana vs Stephano finals please :3
Fun things are fun
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
16:15
Rotti's PatchesSC Open #4
RotterdaM855
IndyStarCraft 222
TKL 204
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 855
ByuN 578
IndyStarCraft 222
TKL 204
EmSc Tv 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22242
Shuttle 1093
Dewaltoss 157
firebathero 134
Barracks 48
Sexy 39
scan(afreeca) 26
Trap 15
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma341
Fuzer 229
Counter-Strike
fl0m612
pashabiceps507
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby1895
Liquid`Hasu231
MindelVK19
Other Games
FrodaN2265
summit1g2211
Beastyqt531
KnowMe405
hiko398
B2W.Neo301
Dendi278
ArmadaUGS105
ToD95
C9.Mang092
QueenE64
Livibee56
Trikslyr45
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1331
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 15
EmSc2Tv 15
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 23
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3742
League of Legends
• Jankos1479
Other Games
• imaqtpie516
• Shiphtur123
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 5m
GSL
16h 5m
AI Arena Tournament
22h 5m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
GSL
1d 16h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 20h
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.