• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:20
CET 07:20
KST 15:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea Soulkey's decision to leave C9
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group A [ASL21] Ro24 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Darkest Dungeon Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3536 users

WCS EU Premier Division Groups & Casters Announced - Page 12

Forum Index > SC2 General
262 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 15:05:26
April 20 2013 15:00 GMT
#221
Everyone who wants to see the studio where the WCS offline rounds will be played can tune in to the EPS right now.

At least on TakeTV stream, don't know if Kaelaris will also be in the studio.
katzenman
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany61 Posts
April 20 2013 15:15 GMT
#222
On April 21 2013 00:00 Champloo wrote:
Everyone who wants to see the studio where the WCS offline rounds will be played can tune in to the EPS right now.

At least on TakeTV stream, don't know if Kaelaris will also be in the studio.


hmm i thought so first too, but afaik they are building a new studio for wcs ?!

http://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/325590108239708160/photo/1
Michal Blicharz (@mbCARMAC)
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 20 2013 15:17 GMT
#223
It's not the same studio afaik. The WCS studio will be the studio of the last year's WCS EU combined qualifier.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
April 20 2013 15:20 GMT
#224
EPS quarterfinals right now are played in the studio where the WCS EU combined qualifier was played. Kaelaris just isn't there, just watch on TakeTV.

I thought that was the studio they'd also use for WCS, didn't know they are building a new one again.
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 15:30:19
April 20 2013 15:26 GMT
#225
On April 21 2013 00:15 katzenman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 00:00 Champloo wrote:
Everyone who wants to see the studio where the WCS offline rounds will be played can tune in to the EPS right now.

At least on TakeTV stream, don't know if Kaelaris will also be in the studio.


hmm i thought so first too, but afaik they are building a new studio for wcs ?!

http://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/325590108239708160/photo/1
Michal Blicharz (@mbCARMAC)


thats their eventstudio where eps is played right now.
AFAIK the offline part of wcs will be played there., but they will do changes for wcs.
and they are building a new one for group play.

found
Michal Blicharz ‏@mbCARMAC 19h

"We're starting off #wcseu in a newly-refurbished casting studio for ro32. We're redecorating it entirely this weekend."

"For ro16 and the finals #wcseu moves to ESL TV's events studio which will also be revamped for SC2 specifically."
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 15:50:54
April 20 2013 15:50 GMT
#226
Please tell me this is live-live, and not the live-cast-from-replay snorefest?
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 20 2013 15:54 GMT
#227
On April 21 2013 00:50 m0ck wrote:
Please tell me this is live-live, and not the live-cast-from-replay snorefest?

why would they do replaycast?? it will be live ofc lol..
yo
Ucs
Profile Joined October 2010
264 Posts
April 20 2013 15:57 GMT
#228
The groups look very stacked. It will be very intresting to watch.
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 16:01:17
April 20 2013 16:00 GMT
#229
On April 20 2013 23:38 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 21:54 Musicus wrote:
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:32 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:26 StarVe wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.

Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree.


Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast. Naniwa > Mana by far and TLO (at least a little bit) has been pretty much the only zerg able to keep up with all the terrans at the top of the european ladder as of late...

Group E is for sure the group of death


How is Naniwa > Mana by far in Hots? Mana looks like a beast so far in ATC and Naniwa has not shown anything yet. I know he is top 100 GM in korea but ladder is ladder and Mana already proved himself in tournaments. Not saying Mana is definetly better or anything, but Naniwa > Mana by far? I dunno man :D.


Nani is 30-0 in two recent Swedish Hots cups.

That doesn't mean jack shit when Mana has destroyed both Quantic and Axiom all by himself. Whilst I do think that Naniwa is better than Mana, at least skill wise (he hasn't done very much for almost a year, though), Mana is more proven in HotS versus good-good opponents.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
April 20 2013 16:03 GMT
#230
On April 21 2013 01:00 Longtimer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 23:38 Heartland wrote:
On April 20 2013 21:54 Musicus wrote:
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:32 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:26 StarVe wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.

Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree.


Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast. Naniwa > Mana by far and TLO (at least a little bit) has been pretty much the only zerg able to keep up with all the terrans at the top of the european ladder as of late...

Group E is for sure the group of death


How is Naniwa > Mana by far in Hots? Mana looks like a beast so far in ATC and Naniwa has not shown anything yet. I know he is top 100 GM in korea but ladder is ladder and Mana already proved himself in tournaments. Not saying Mana is definetly better or anything, but Naniwa > Mana by far? I dunno man :D.


Nani is 30-0 in two recent Swedish Hots cups.

That doesn't mean jack shit when Mana has destroyed both Quantic and Axiom all by himself. Whilst I do think that Naniwa is better than Mana, at least skill wise (he hasn't done very much for almost a year, though), Mana is more proven in HotS versus good-good opponents.


I was just replying to your question about results outside of ladder, nothing else.
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
April 20 2013 16:06 GMT
#231
On April 21 2013 01:03 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 01:00 Longtimer wrote:
On April 20 2013 23:38 Heartland wrote:
On April 20 2013 21:54 Musicus wrote:
On April 20 2013 20:41 Liquid`Ret wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:32 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:26 StarVe wrote:
On April 20 2013 07:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
How can anyone think group E is not the group of death?

H has the better Korean Terran, an equally good Protoss and I'm not sure that Kas > Feast and TLO > SortOf, really.

Kas seems like he hasn't hit his stride completely yet while Feast has had a lot of visibility just now and had some results that made heads turn, he just 2-0'd Scarlett today. SortOf returns from training in Korea, I think he can be at least as good as TLO.

Basically this. I would put tlo/kas and feast/sortof as quite even, then Mana > Naniwa and MMA > Shuttle. Overall, H has more skilled players, imo. One of the closest groups, where anyone could easily take it, and it seems Aligulac and most people agree.


Shuttle is better than MMA, in my opinion. Also Kas is a terran so therefor he is much stronger than Feast. Naniwa > Mana by far and TLO (at least a little bit) has been pretty much the only zerg able to keep up with all the terrans at the top of the european ladder as of late...

Group E is for sure the group of death


How is Naniwa > Mana by far in Hots? Mana looks like a beast so far in ATC and Naniwa has not shown anything yet. I know he is top 100 GM in korea but ladder is ladder and Mana already proved himself in tournaments. Not saying Mana is definetly better or anything, but Naniwa > Mana by far? I dunno man :D.


Nani is 30-0 in two recent Swedish Hots cups.

That doesn't mean jack shit when Mana has destroyed both Quantic and Axiom all by himself. Whilst I do think that Naniwa is better than Mana, at least skill wise (he hasn't done very much for almost a year, though), Mana is more proven in HotS versus good-good opponents.


I was just replying to your question about results outside of ladder, nothing else.

Aha, OK, wasn't me who asked the question though
katzenman
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany61 Posts
April 20 2013 17:00 GMT
#232
On April 21 2013 00:26 pepe08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 00:15 katzenman wrote:
On April 21 2013 00:00 Champloo wrote:
Everyone who wants to see the studio where the WCS offline rounds will be played can tune in to the EPS right now.

At least on TakeTV stream, don't know if Kaelaris will also be in the studio.


hmm i thought so first too, but afaik they are building a new studio for wcs ?!

http://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/325590108239708160/photo/1
Michal Blicharz (@mbCARMAC)


thats their eventstudio where eps is played right now.
AFAIK the offline part of wcs will be played there., but they will do changes for wcs.
and they are building a new one for group play.

found
Michal Blicharz ‏@mbCARMAC 19h

"We're starting off #wcseu in a newly-refurbished casting studio for ro32. We're redecorating it entirely this weekend."

"For ro16 and the finals #wcseu moves to ESL TV's events studio which will also be revamped for SC2 specifically."


thank you , so i suppose they will brand one of the smaller caster-only studios for wcs as well as the event studio.
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
April 20 2013 17:03 GMT
#233
Really happy that ToD is casting this. Will make this whole event significantly more watchable for me.
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
April 20 2013 17:30 GMT
#234
Thorzain is going to pummel everyone.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 20 2013 17:31 GMT
#235
On April 21 2013 00:54 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 00:50 m0ck wrote:
Please tell me this is live-live, and not the live-cast-from-replay snorefest?

why would they do replaycast?? it will be live ofc lol..

Someone mentioned it in this thread, but I think they mistook it for the US qualifier. All is well that ends well.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 20 2013 17:50 GMT
#236
Group D & H looks nice! :D
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
April 20 2013 18:25 GMT
#237
That sucks for ret he'll be hung over and drunk...
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
April 20 2013 20:22 GMT
#238
Group H and G looking nasty. I voted H. MMA SortOf and MaNa are legit contenders.
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 20 2013 23:41 GMT
#239
On April 21 2013 03:25 Passion wrote:
That sucks for ret he'll be hung over and drunk...


Idd lol. Couldn't have been a worse day for a Dutchman to play on.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 21 2013 02:46 GMT
#240
On April 21 2013 00:26 pepe08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 00:15 katzenman wrote:
On April 21 2013 00:00 Champloo wrote:
Everyone who wants to see the studio where the WCS offline rounds will be played can tune in to the EPS right now.

At least on TakeTV stream, don't know if Kaelaris will also be in the studio.


hmm i thought so first too, but afaik they are building a new studio for wcs ?!

http://twitter.com/mbCARMAC/status/325590108239708160/photo/1
Michal Blicharz (@mbCARMAC)


thats their eventstudio where eps is played right now.
AFAIK the offline part of wcs will be played there., but they will do changes for wcs.
and they are building a new one for group play.

found
Michal Blicharz ‏@mbCARMAC 19h

"We're starting off #wcseu in a newly-refurbished casting studio for ro32. We're redecorating it entirely this weekend."

"For ro16 and the finals #wcseu moves to ESL TV's events studio which will also be revamped for SC2 specifically."

Sounds like ESL is taking their job seriously, really good to hear.
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 147
Livibee 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Zeus 8981
GuemChi 4982
Dewaltoss 57
yabsab 43
ToSsGirL 33
Bale 30
ZergMaN 20
Icarus 10
League of Legends
JimRising 598
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K779
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0336
Other Games
WinterStarcraft437
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV83
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 78
lovetv 17
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling117
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
5h 40m
Big Brain Bouts
10h 40m
Fjant vs SortOf
YoungYakov vs Krystianer
Reynor vs HeRoMaRinE
RSL Revival
1d 3h
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
1d 5h
Platinum Heroes Events
1d 8h
BSL
1d 13h
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
2 days
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.