EPTKoreans selecting WCS NA/EU List - Page 71
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AyMnRSC2
United States123 Posts
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:50 onedayclose wrote: I really hope teams like Axiom-Acer and EG-TL won't be forfeiting team league matches because their players are participating in the offline NA WCS. I kind of wish to know if KeSPA and eSF would ban them all from korea for life if they actually did that. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
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SMD
Canada627 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote: none of it helped. the only way to become the best basketball player on the planet is to leave your country and play in the NCAA/NBA AND learn how to speak ENGLISH... that was true in 1970 and it remains true today. if you want to be the best Starcraft player on the planet you must move to korea.. live their 12 months out of the year and learn how to speak KOREAN AND ASSIMILATE. so far ... only grrrr elected to go that route... and he is still the only real foreign starcraft world champion. this WCS format changes nothing... they are just shuffling around some cash... and manipulating a few high level rules. a new WCS rules set is irrelavent. you want to be the best Starcraft player on the planet even though you were born outside korea. do what grrr did. end of story. I absolutely agree. With this comment: "the only way to become the best basketball player on the planet is to leave your country and play in the NCAA/NBA AND learn how to speak ENGLISH... that was true in 1970 and it remains true today." R: Why is this? Its because NCAA has the best system for nurturing players, the best programs for the players to excel in. The NBA is the highest level of competition. The most benefitting in terms of contracts/finances/personal sponsorship. Remained the same then, still remains the same now (although I would say..since the 1990s, I think youre forgetting the soviet teams that roamed back then) Comparaitively, KR system is basically the NCAA system. They know how to cultivate players and make them excel. Europe/NA does not. Thus players go over to train. Is it possible to set up a NCAA system in Europe? Absolutely! It is difficult but it is possible, The WCS system gives more incentive to try to develop that NCAA system on other continents and give funding to promising teams. | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:53 playa wrote: So not only are like 20 good Koreans competing in NA, some that have won GSLs, but you have to pay 18.75 to compete in the qualifier for a chance to make top 8 to qualify. If this could get any worse, I'd love to see it. They have really set the bar high. Good luck trying to 1 up this. $18.75 is a high bar? Really? | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
For a tournament you have .00001% chance of qualifying in unless you're Jaedong, yeah. Amateur players love losing money. Because you know the game they have to spend 14 hours practicing at to have a shot to qualify in pays so well. | ||
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CarlosOmse
Germany507 Posts
With this many Koreans playing NA i dont see any non Korean Player qualiifyng, for EU its not that bad but it sill likly to be like 3 Koreans out of 5 Players | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:55 SMD wrote: If Anyone Has InControl and Suppy on twitter, Theres a very good back and forth going on about there apparently being a 20$ entry fee to mlgs qualifier tournaments I think it has something to do with MLGs online tournamnets where you earn points and thats why there is a 20$ entry free. So that those points actually are worth something. | ||
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GimliGloin
Canada24 Posts
With this many top tier Koreans saturating the North American circuit especially, we won't see these grassroots players come into view. To really increase foreigner levels of play, there should be a required residency time (perhaps the length of the season) in the specific region. This way, foreigners who would not have the money to train Korea can have the opportunity to train with top tier Koreans that decide to compete in other regions. Likewise, the top tier Koreans that have decided to play in other regions often come with infrastructure support such as foreign team houses, and will be able to train in a Korean team house WITH the foreigners. TL;DR the new WCS loses some of the "world" appeal to it, and level of foreign play could rise if residency locks are enforced. | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
Maybe they could do some sort of manipulation by requiring non-residents to have a certain (much higher) GM rank on the local servers in order to compete. Getting topXX GM shouldn't be too difficult for most of these players, but at least then you'd introduce a set of "practice partners," since most foreigners practice on ladder. | ||
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DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
Polt and Violet: Makes total sense for them to play in NA. MC: German team and he's out of Code S. MMA and ForGG: as expected. So there's only Nestea,Mvp,Tails and finale. So if you think about it it's not as crazy as it seems. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On April 11 2013 03:02 DifuntO wrote: EG,TL,Axiom,Root and Quantic are foreign teams so it makes sense for them to send their korean players in NA to get easy money. Polt and Violet: Makes total sense for them to play in NA. MC: German team and he's out of Code S. MMA and ForGG: as expected. So there's only Nestea,Mvp,Tails and finale. So if you think about it it's not as crazy as it seems. Lets not forget Tails/Finale are fringe Code A players. They're probably influenced by the fact that they're very good friends with Naniwa and a few euros. Nestea wont get anywhere in WCS: KR. He's on the decline as a player. So if you want to talk about koreans from korean teams taking money. Youre basically complaining about MVP. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:55 SMD wrote: If Anyone Has InControl and Suppy on twitter, Theres a very good back and forth going on about there apparently being a 20$ entry fee to mlgs qualifier tournaments Omg of this turns out to be true then fuck mlg because that would be absolutely retarded. | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:46 Godwrath wrote: And south america. But seems like we should want koreans representing us, because they win shit. Meh sorry for the bitterness, but this thread had taken the best of me, specially the bashing on foreigners players "wanting ez money" like the koreans going to play on NA are doing it as charity. My worry is the short-term. This screw short term, and progamers careers aren't right now long enough, so i don't understand why they wouldn't complain about it. I agree, and who wouldn't want some easy money. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On April 11 2013 02:47 Tobblish wrote: Ok so with this residency rule how should players outside of Korea, NA and EU get to play? You can't get a residence ship that fast lol. Blizzard have said that they will want to move it to entirely offline so at the end of this year or next year you will pretty much need that anyway to compete in time anyway so it will sort itself out without fucking people in the bum. So Blizzard did this the right way. Just let them play? It's Blizzards tournament, they can do anything they want with it. | ||
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