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On April 09 2013 09:38 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:21 Tidus Mino wrote:On April 09 2013 09:21 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 09 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp 2hThe NA and EU SC2 premiere leagues are pretty amazing pending final acceptances. Can't wait to announce them  They probably have a good idea already. Any bets on which Koreans going where? haha It will be interesting to see how they seed Koreans into NA/EU divisions. Kaldor tweeted last night that a lot of Koreans were going to play NA if I remember correctly. afaik EU has 4 invited Koreans, then a couple more trying to qualify I heard Arthur will go to Europe, is it right ? And are they other korean players from WW coming with him ? I'm ok with 4 koreans amongst 32 players, not so much but a good additional value for the competition. Still I really want they increase the korean prize pool and/or the slot distribution for the global finals.
Arthur and Daisy from what I've heard.
4 invited players from within EU probably include ForGG and Daisy at least.
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Is WCS NA replacing the old MLG tournaments or will MLG still hold tourneys such as the summer championship that will be open to players from all regions?
As long as MLG will still hold their own non-WCS separate tourneys, I like this new format.
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On April 09 2013 09:36 Bagi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2013 09:32 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:31 rename wrote:On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:
Prize pools
As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.
1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300This better be not GSL distribution. Players from Code A up to Ro16 players are short 75657$ of prize money. ( And those none of those players are eligible for the global season finals either ). That kind of distribution would be basically saying .. "time to buy yourself US tickets" to any ESF team that doesnt have multiple CodeS ro4 candidates. KeSPA players are also rumoured to be strongly considering WCS NA How does that work with their sponsors and proleague? Also added risk comes from them having to pay their own travel expenses. I always thought that code A ESF players might make the jump, but not Kespa.
The only offline events are on the weekend and KESPA won't be sending over whole teams. Not too mention that PL does have its breaks and it might coalign with the event also consider that if you are only sending over one player per team it will not hurt the team that much during matches. Then you have the joint partnership with MLG.
As for flight costs, you do realize what KESPA is made up of right? I doubt a $5K flight would bankrupt them. It is very possibly and very likely that KESPA would send some players over to compete than ESF teams. ESF teams can hardly afford to pay their players, how are they going to afford flights on the off chance that the team won't break even in investments?
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On April 09 2013 09:43 MaFFGeeK wrote:
Is WCS NA replacing the old MLG tournaments or will MLG still hold tourneys such as the summer championship that will be open to players from all regions?
As long as MLG will still hold their own non-WCS separate tourneys, I like this new format.
there will be weekend MLGs like we are used to, as well as the new WCSNA league
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On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:
Prize pools
As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.
1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300
So Code A doesn't even get a few hundred $ anymore?
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no pricepool for code a anymore and lower ro 16 ro 32 code S pricepool ? so the rich gets richer and the weaker code s , code a and b players stay poor or loose money  poor kr semi pros, only reasonable for them to participate in WCS NA and EU
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On April 09 2013 09:43 MaFFGeeK wrote:
Is WCS NA replacing the old MLG tournaments or will MLG still hold tourneys such as the summer championship that will be open to players from all regions?
As long as MLG will still hold their own non-WCS separate tourneys, I like this new format.
I'll look for the exact quote but MLG and ESL have stated that their championship series and IEM series respectively, will continue.
Edit:
Source 1: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/57
Source 2: https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=IEM
IEM We're at the @intel HQ planning the next #IEM season. We promise you it will be a great one!
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On April 09 2013 09:43 TeslasPigeon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:36 Bagi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2013 09:32 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:31 rename wrote:On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:
Prize pools
As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.
1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300This better be not GSL distribution. Players from Code A up to Ro16 players are short 75657$ of prize money. ( And those none of those players are eligible for the global season finals either ). That kind of distribution would be basically saying .. "time to buy yourself US tickets" to any ESF team that doesnt have multiple CodeS ro4 candidates. KeSPA players are also rumoured to be strongly considering WCS NA How does that work with their sponsors and proleague? Also added risk comes from them having to pay their own travel expenses. I always thought that code A ESF players might make the jump, but not Kespa. The only offline events are on the weekend and KESPA won't be sending over whole teams. Not too mention that PL does have its breaks and it might coalign with the event also consider that if you are only sending over one player per team it will not hurt the team that much during matches. Then you have the joint partnership with MLG. As for flight costs, you do realize what KESPA is made up of right? I doubt a $5K flight would bankrupt them. It is very possibly and very likely that KESPA would send some players over to compete than ESF teams. ESF teams can hardly afford to pay their players, how are they going to afford flights on the off chance that the team won't break even in investments?
quite a few ESF teams are getting stacked now, though. ST, IM, FXO, AZUBU are all pretty well off. Only prime and NSH really come to mind as poor haha
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On April 09 2013 09:44 Killmouse wrote:no pricepool for code a anymore and lower ro 16 ro 32 code S pricepool ? so the richer gets richer and weaker code s , code a and b players stay poor or loose money poor kr semi pros, only reasonable for them to participate in WCS NA and EU
Are there any actual semi-pros in code A anymore?
*as in studies/works/etc
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On April 09 2013 09:45 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:44 Killmouse wrote:no pricepool for code a anymore and lower ro 16 ro 32 code S pricepool ? so the richer gets richer and weaker code s , code a and b players stay poor or loose money poor kr semi pros, only reasonable for them to participate in WCS NA and EU Are there any actual semi-pros in code A anymore? *as in studies/works/etc
Don't think so, I'm sure a lot of them still don't make salaries but all are full time I believe.
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On April 09 2013 09:38 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:21 Tidus Mino wrote:On April 09 2013 09:21 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 09 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp 2hThe NA and EU SC2 premiere leagues are pretty amazing pending final acceptances. Can't wait to announce them They probably have a good idea already. Any bets on which Koreans going where? haha It will be interesting to see how they seed Koreans into NA/EU divisions. Kaldor tweeted last night that a lot of Koreans were going to play NA if I remember correctly. afaik EU has 4 invited Koreans, then a couple more trying to qualify I heard Arthur will go to Europe, is it right ? And are the other korean players from WW coming with him ? I'm ok with 4 koreans amongst 32 players, not so much but a good additional value for the competition. Still I really want they increase the korean prize pool and/or the slot distribution for the global finals.
Yeah having a small number of koreans in na/eu is definitely good IMO
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On April 09 2013 09:48 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:38 Boucot wrote:On April 09 2013 09:21 Tidus Mino wrote:On April 09 2013 09:21 Laryleprakon wrote:On April 09 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:Adam Apicella @MrAdamAp 2hThe NA and EU SC2 premiere leagues are pretty amazing pending final acceptances. Can't wait to announce them They probably have a good idea already. Any bets on which Koreans going where? haha It will be interesting to see how they seed Koreans into NA/EU divisions. Kaldor tweeted last night that a lot of Koreans were going to play NA if I remember correctly. afaik EU has 4 invited Koreans, then a couple more trying to qualify I heard Arthur will go to Europe, is it right ? And are the other korean players from WW coming with him ? I'm ok with 4 koreans amongst 32 players, not so much but a good additional value for the competition. Still I really want they increase the korean prize pool and/or the slot distribution for the global finals. Yeah having a small number of koreans in na/eu is definitely good IMO
Defiantly and the ones that will make the trip will be beatable. Its when the bracket is stacked 16 deep that the odds are coming out on top are slim. But anyone few that come over well be welcome and good for the entire player base.
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On April 09 2013 09:32 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 09:28 Shew wrote:Players must notify MLG their intent to participate in the America region by end of day on April 8th.
Anyone know how to notify MLG? No idea I hope they let us know soon. I mean it does sound like the first stage (at least for NA) is going to be pure invitational like every other tournament, but I could (hopefully) am wrong about this.
Uh, to my understanding and from what they've said, the top 32 for NA will be invited/decided upon by which pros that received an email respond. If you've been invited you'll respond to whatever email before that date. The lower leagues for NA/EU will automatically invite the top 200 GM players in the region(aka just the gm list outside korea since they don't have the other divisions like code a etc)
That's my understanding at least. I then assume that everyone in GM will just be notified at whatever point that they're able to play if they so choose to and from there our leagues/placements will be put in motion for the following season once the invited people start dropping out.
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"Thomas Kilian @Khaldor 12h
As it is right now a lot of koreans will participate in foreign #WCS events. All-Korean WCS Global Final incoming?"
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After trying to figure out all of WCS Logistics I have determined one thing and one thing alone.
I am not a smart man.
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Sad that it looks like NA is all invites. Obviously they can't do something super-amazing with such little time, but some invite-only 100-person tournaments with the top 32 getting the spots would be a huge improvement.
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Damn it, it's in cologne and not in Hannover :<
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It just doesn't sit right with me that Koreans can play in NA/EU qualifiers (and visa versa). Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of having specific region qualifiers? I hoped the three region qualifiers and tournaments would help build hype within the regions separately, before having them all battle it out in the finals.
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Pretty decent, wouldn't mind taking 5k off the top and sprinkling it down to boost the lesser prizes, it's good though. Still unsure how they decide who finishes 5th, maybe a group for quarterfinal losers or something. Think if someone say makes top 16 then wins an MLG during that season, he should have more points than 5th etc hope they balance the points system well.
Excited to see where everyone ends up and just how many koreans leave the motherland to mess up some foreigners. Interesting times we live in.
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On April 09 2013 09:56 Deadlift wrote:
After trying to figure out all of WCS Logistics I have determined one thing and one thing alone.
I am not a smart man.
It took me 6 months to understand the GSL system, this one is easier. :D
So, what about the recent moves to California (Blizzard/IPL, EG, ROOT) if the offline part of WCS NA is in New York ? Anyway, I'm glad for multiple reasons they do that in NY : it's better for EU viewers and the view from the studio behind the players is awesome. :p
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