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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 04:57:48
April 09 2013 04:57 GMT
#121
Format is good.

MLG will only be covering travel expenses for players living in the Americas. However, if a player first travels to any city in the United States, MLG will then pay for their flight to the MLG studio from that U.S. city.


This is very good.

Ro8 should be played over at least a week (Ro8 Saturday/Sunday, Ro4 Wednesday, Finals Saturday), not everything over one weekend. Quality of games will suffer and it will further encourage more non-superstar Koreans (who are not based in EU/NA) to participate.

If GOM is not adding anything to the price pool, it's pretty ugly move from them. If they want to, but Blizzard doesn't allow them, it's pretty fucking awful decision.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 09 2013 05:21 GMT
#122
They released the dates for the first season.

https://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/9447310/WCS_Season_1_Dates-4_8_2013

So 24 invites and 8 players from special qualifiers.
All I do is Stim.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
April 09 2013 05:24 GMT
#123
Im liking the prize distribution, spread out among a lot of players
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
April 09 2013 05:29 GMT
#124
That's pretty good,i love the creation of an european code s / code a,moreover if blizzard takes all the travel fees,its pretty good for players/team.

Also imo the only legit korean for eu league are :
Real (because he live in europe and in a eur team)
Daisy (same)
ForGG (lives in France & eu team )
Pro7ect (european citizen)
Arthur & Sting (eu team )

+1 or 2 (just like foreigners seed in GSL )
RIP MKP
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
April 09 2013 06:09 GMT
#125
Initial EU and NA Premier League lineup can be nothing else than invites tbh for first season.
Let me guess, would have at least the top16 from last years continental finals plus notable tournament winners from the regions.
Only from a season 2 and 3 forward we can see the new blood and HoTs up n commers to have worked their way into the top leagues.

Sorry to say but thats the way one has to do it - if they would hold completetely open qualifiers then they could not hold a season 1 within the proposed timelines.
I'm quite sure that would have been the initial plan but probably the negotiating parties involved took a wee bit longer than was planned.
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 06:27:18
April 09 2013 06:24 GMT
#126
On April 09 2013 15:09 TumNarDok wrote:
Initial EU and NA Premier League lineup can be nothing else than invites tbh for first season.
Let me guess, would have at least the top16 from last years continental finals plus notable tournament winners from the regions.
Only from a season 2 and 3 forward we can see the new blood and HoTs up n commers to have worked their way into the top leagues.

Sorry to say but thats the way one has to do it - if they would hold completetely open qualifiers then they could not hold a season 1 within the proposed timelines.
I'm quite sure that would have been the initial plan but probably the negotiating parties involved took a wee bit longer than was planned.


and sadly thats makes 0 open major tournaments in NA for a good part of 2013... I got burned planning MLG dallas stuff, then IPL6 cancelled on top of that. WCS going invite only, seriously what was the point to practicing so much, if there is never a place to show it... Or continue practicing for that matter, Havent lost a map in a live event since MLG raleigh last year, won several small/medium lans since then without dropping a single map, and here im left with everything looking up to the big events with my smaller events achievements, the funds to travel and boom nothing... Literally nothing to travel to, nothing to play in, Its really demotivating as a player getting the notable NA players on ladder, winning or losing and knowing with the right amount of work i could do something. as the invites are probably going to those players, yet there are 0 opportunities to do so.

And it doesnt take that long to run a qualifier, especially when your cutting it down to 32 players, could have been done in two days with a fair cutoff, such as master on NA. Instead sadly I get to just be grumpy and go yep, this was supposed to be good for NA, not feeling it... And on top of this, I dont even know where the koreans choosing regions fits into this. For all i know they could have invited 20 koreans to the invite list.

competition has always been in my blood, I thrive on competition and this whole situation lately makes me really disappointed in blizzard, esports, and competition... I dont see how more NA invite only tournaments solve anything... When its only dying to me...
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
April 09 2013 06:32 GMT
#127
That's some nice money in that prize pool :D
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 09 2013 06:33 GMT
#128
Disappointed that it's nearly all invites...but if there's a few qualifier spots I guess that's ok.
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
April 09 2013 06:34 GMT
#129
Is it just me, or has blizzard still refrained from telling any of the players substantial information about what and where to go for qualifiers to tournaments, and who will be in them, how to join, how good you have to be to join, etc...
The lack of info is infuriating
TwitchTV as Maaasked I stream hots (rarely)
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 09 2013 06:55 GMT
#130
Weren't Kespa tournaments always low in prize money and most of the time not even mentioned? And now everyone is freaking out about it. The big money is/should always be sponsorship money.
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 09 2013 07:11 GMT
#131
Have to piss and moan again but ...

Hate the locales for the matches. UGHHHH @ Cologne, Germany crowds. NYC great backdrop but never any crowd. I know I am getting my epic crowd later but wish the venues were better anyway. =/
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 09 2013 07:15 GMT
#132
I am getting chills, EG;TL for winning streak that gets them into playoffs and ESPN 30 for 30!
th3rogue
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany683 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 07:32:55
April 09 2013 07:32 GMT
#133
On April 09 2013 15:24 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 15:09 TumNarDok wrote:
Initial EU and NA Premier League lineup can be nothing else than invites tbh for first season.
Let me guess, would have at least the top16 from last years continental finals plus notable tournament winners from the regions.
Only from a season 2 and 3 forward we can see the new blood and HoTs up n commers to have worked their way into the top leagues.

Sorry to say but thats the way one has to do it - if they would hold completetely open qualifiers then they could not hold a season 1 within the proposed timelines.
I'm quite sure that would have been the initial plan but probably the negotiating parties involved took a wee bit longer than was planned.


and sadly thats makes 0 open major tournaments in NA for a good part of 2013... I got burned planning MLG dallas stuff, then IPL6 cancelled on top of that. WCS going invite only, seriously what was the point to practicing so much, if there is never a place to show it... Or continue practicing for that matter, Havent lost a map in a live event since MLG raleigh last year, won several small/medium lans since then without dropping a single map, and here im left with everything looking up to the big events with my smaller events achievements, the funds to travel and boom nothing... Literally nothing to travel to, nothing to play in, Its really demotivating as a player getting the notable NA players on ladder, winning or losing and knowing with the right amount of work i could do something. as the invites are probably going to those players, yet there are 0 opportunities to do so.

And it doesnt take that long to run a qualifier, especially when your cutting it down to 32 players, could have been done in two days with a fair cutoff, such as master on NA. Instead sadly I get to just be grumpy and go yep, this was supposed to be good for NA, not feeling it... And on top of this, I dont even know where the koreans choosing regions fits into this. For all i know they could have invited 20 koreans to the invite list.

competition has always been in my blood, I thrive on competition and this whole situation lately makes me really disappointed in blizzard, esports, and competition... I dont see how more NA invite only tournaments solve anything... When its only dying to me...


In EU there are 24 invited players, and 8 players through open qualifiers, are MLG not doing the same?
ESL Community Manager SC2, http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 08:11:57
April 09 2013 07:44 GMT
#134
--- Nuked ---
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
April 09 2013 07:54 GMT
#135
KR-EU lag is finally gonna do something good for Europeans.
flakmonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia254 Posts
April 09 2013 07:59 GMT
#136
On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:
Players must notify MLG their intent to participate in the America region by end of day on April 8th.


But this is posted on the 9th of April? Blizzard leaving it a bit late yeah?
Baptista
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Poland141 Posts
April 09 2013 08:00 GMT
#137
If you are in a pool of 32 best players in a region of a blizzard game you should get more than 300$ in official blizzard league. Its just not something you can show off with. 1st place doesn't need 35k, give more to lower players, support the scene.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 08:09:31
April 09 2013 08:09 GMT
#138
On April 09 2013 16:32 th3rogue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 15:24 KiF1rE wrote:
On April 09 2013 15:09 TumNarDok wrote:
Initial EU and NA Premier League lineup can be nothing else than invites tbh for first season.
Let me guess, would have at least the top16 from last years continental finals plus notable tournament winners from the regions.
Only from a season 2 and 3 forward we can see the new blood and HoTs up n commers to have worked their way into the top leagues.

Sorry to say but thats the way one has to do it - if they would hold completetely open qualifiers then they could not hold a season 1 within the proposed timelines.
I'm quite sure that would have been the initial plan but probably the negotiating parties involved took a wee bit longer than was planned.


and sadly thats makes 0 open major tournaments in NA for a good part of 2013... I got burned planning MLG dallas stuff, then IPL6 cancelled on top of that. WCS going invite only, seriously what was the point to practicing so much, if there is never a place to show it... Or continue practicing for that matter, Havent lost a map in a live event since MLG raleigh last year, won several small/medium lans since then without dropping a single map, and here im left with everything looking up to the big events with my smaller events achievements, the funds to travel and boom nothing... Literally nothing to travel to, nothing to play in, Its really demotivating as a player getting the notable NA players on ladder, winning or losing and knowing with the right amount of work i could do something. as the invites are probably going to those players, yet there are 0 opportunities to do so.

And it doesnt take that long to run a qualifier, especially when your cutting it down to 32 players, could have been done in two days with a fair cutoff, such as master on NA. Instead sadly I get to just be grumpy and go yep, this was supposed to be good for NA, not feeling it... And on top of this, I dont even know where the koreans choosing regions fits into this. For all i know they could have invited 20 koreans to the invite list.

competition has always been in my blood, I thrive on competition and this whole situation lately makes me really disappointed in blizzard, esports, and competition... I dont see how more NA invite only tournaments solve anything... When its only dying to me...


In EU there are 24 invited players, and 8 players through open qualifiers, are MLG not doing the same?


The 8 "open" qualifiers are actually invite only qualifiers. It's fucking retarded but I am not surprised by this anymore.
When I think of something else, something will go here
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 09 2013 08:09 GMT
#139
Invites... Last time I saw so many invites in a to be open league, it was the first season of NASL and we all knew how that turned out... <.<
th3rogue
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany683 Posts
April 09 2013 08:10 GMT
#140
On April 09 2013 16:59 flakmonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:
Players must notify MLG their intent to participate in the America region by end of day on April 8th.


But this is posted on the 9th of April? Blizzard leaving it a bit late yeah?

In EU at least, the invited players have been being contacted for the past few days.
On April 09 2013 17:09 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 16:32 th3rogue wrote:
On April 09 2013 15:24 KiF1rE wrote:
On April 09 2013 15:09 TumNarDok wrote:
Initial EU and NA Premier League lineup can be nothing else than invites tbh for first season.
Let me guess, would have at least the top16 from last years continental finals plus notable tournament winners from the regions.
Only from a season 2 and 3 forward we can see the new blood and HoTs up n commers to have worked their way into the top leagues.

Sorry to say but thats the way one has to do it - if they would hold completetely open qualifiers then they could not hold a season 1 within the proposed timelines.
I'm quite sure that would have been the initial plan but probably the negotiating parties involved took a wee bit longer than was planned.


and sadly thats makes 0 open major tournaments in NA for a good part of 2013... I got burned planning MLG dallas stuff, then IPL6 cancelled on top of that. WCS going invite only, seriously what was the point to practicing so much, if there is never a place to show it... Or continue practicing for that matter, Havent lost a map in a live event since MLG raleigh last year, won several small/medium lans since then without dropping a single map, and here im left with everything looking up to the big events with my smaller events achievements, the funds to travel and boom nothing... Literally nothing to travel to, nothing to play in, Its really demotivating as a player getting the notable NA players on ladder, winning or losing and knowing with the right amount of work i could do something. as the invites are probably going to those players, yet there are 0 opportunities to do so.

And it doesnt take that long to run a qualifier, especially when your cutting it down to 32 players, could have been done in two days with a fair cutoff, such as master on NA. Instead sadly I get to just be grumpy and go yep, this was supposed to be good for NA, not feeling it... And on top of this, I dont even know where the koreans choosing regions fits into this. For all i know they could have invited 20 koreans to the invite list.

competition has always been in my blood, I thrive on competition and this whole situation lately makes me really disappointed in blizzard, esports, and competition... I dont see how more NA invite only tournaments solve anything... When its only dying to me...


In EU there are 24 invited players, and 8 players through open qualifiers, are MLG not doing the same?


The 8 "open" qualifiers are actually invite only qualifiers. It's fucking retarded but I am used to seeing it in 99.9% of tournaments now of days.

Ah, I'm sorry, in EU our qualifiers are planned to be completely open. You're welcome to join !
ESL Community Manager SC2, http://www.esl.eu/eu/sc2
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