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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#21
EG has this!
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
April 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#22
Good prize distribution. Awesome that they are spending the money to fly players out to NYC.
Long live the Boss Toss!
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#23
On April 09 2013 09:21 BasicBarcode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:20 ffadicted wrote:
IMO the price pool and format is fine for europe, but it's an absolute disgrace that the prize pool and point distribution for GSL is the same. They're essentially ruining the prestige behind GSL (which will remain the hardest tournament to win, let's not kid ourselves, the seasonal finals will the the "Club World Cup" equivalent to GSL's "Champions League", aka kind of a fun but not serious league) just so that they can make foreigners happy to see their favorite but extremely less skilled players win games.

I don't see any insentive for koreans to stay in korea tbh. None whatsoever. And CERTAINLY no incentive for foreigners to ever go there to practice and get better and close the gap between skill level.

I'm very disappointed at WCS. Extremely disappointed.


Do we have any information that GSL isn't funding a larger prizepool with all their sponsorships?


From this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406770


Are the prize pools the same between the leagues?

Yes. All of the regional leagues will have identical prize pools and point distribution.

The prize pool breakdown for the remaining part of 2013 is as follows:
Each Regional WCS League - $100,000
Each Global Season Finals - $150,000
WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon - $250,000
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TiberiusAk
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 00:30:48
April 09 2013 00:28 GMT
#24
Edit: deleted
"I like the new weapon, it's solid removal with a really nice deathrattle in a mech deck. The murloc is a little confusing though, not sure why they thought shamans needed a murloc."
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
April 09 2013 00:28 GMT
#25
Players must notify MLG their intent to participate in the America region by end of day on April 8th.



Anyone know how to notify MLG?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 09 2013 00:28 GMT
#26
On April 09 2013 09:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:21 Tidus Mino wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:21 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:
Adam Apicella ‏@MrAdamAp 2h
The NA and EU SC2 premiere leagues are pretty amazing pending final acceptances. Can't wait to announce them

They probably have a good idea already.

Any bets on which Koreans going where? haha


It will be interesting to see how they seed Koreans into NA/EU divisions. Kaldor tweeted last night that a lot of Koreans were going to play NA if I remember correctly.


afaik EU has 4 invited Koreans, then a couple more trying to qualify

oh that's pretty decent! four out 32, with a few more qualifiers is not that korean dominated at all

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:21 pmp10 wrote:
Wait a minute.
Dose this mean that Koreans not playing in GSL already had to commit to a region?

i expect so, the KR qualifiers are tomorrow haha


Majestic. Enough speculation, I want these players pools out now and the newly hired IPL guys to be casting these games or whatever they are doing. Enough speculation, now GAMES!
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 09 2013 00:29 GMT
#27
On April 09 2013 09:27 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:21 BasicBarcode wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:20 ffadicted wrote:
IMO the price pool and format is fine for europe, but it's an absolute disgrace that the prize pool and point distribution for GSL is the same. They're essentially ruining the prestige behind GSL (which will remain the hardest tournament to win, let's not kid ourselves, the seasonal finals will the the "Club World Cup" equivalent to GSL's "Champions League", aka kind of a fun but not serious league) just so that they can make foreigners happy to see their favorite but extremely less skilled players win games.

I don't see any insentive for koreans to stay in korea tbh. None whatsoever. And CERTAINLY no incentive for foreigners to ever go there to practice and get better and close the gap between skill level.

I'm very disappointed at WCS. Extremely disappointed.


Do we have any information that GSL isn't funding a larger prizepool with all their sponsorships?


From this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406770


Are the prize pools the same between the leagues?

Yes. All of the regional leagues will have identical prize pools and point distribution.

The prize pool breakdown for the remaining part of 2013 is as follows:
Each Regional WCS League - $100,000
Each Global Season Finals - $150,000
WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon - $250,000


If GSL aren't adding more money on top of the 100k it's a pretty big decrease to overall prize pool + less events each year. The top player might earn more from the further stages but the CodeA guys won't :/
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 00:32:13
April 09 2013 00:31 GMT
#28
On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:


Prize pools

As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.

1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300


This better be not GSL distribution.
Players from Code A up to Ro16 players are short 75657$ of prize money. ( And those none of those players are eligible for the global season finals either ).
That kind of distribution would be basically saying .. "time to buy yourself US tickets" to any ESF team that doesnt have multiple CodeS ro4 candidates.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 09 2013 00:32 GMT
#29
On April 09 2013 09:28 Shew wrote:
Show nested quote +
Players must notify MLG their intent to participate in the America region by end of day on April 8th.



Anyone know how to notify MLG?


No idea I hope they let us know soon. I mean it does sound like the first stage (at least for NA) is going to be pure invitational like every other tournament, but I could (hopefully) am wrong about this.
When I think of something else, something will go here
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 09 2013 00:32 GMT
#30
On April 09 2013 09:31 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:


Prize pools

As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.

1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300


This better be not GSL distribution.
Players from Code A up to Ro16 players are short 75657$ of prize money. ( And those none of those players are eligible for the global season finals either ).
That kind of distribution would be basically saying .. "time to buy yourself US tickets" to any ESF team that doesnt have multiple CodeS ro4 candidates.

KeSPA players are also rumoured to be strongly considering WCS NA
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
April 09 2013 00:34 GMT
#31
Well at least Artosis has better shot at CodeA now
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 09 2013 00:35 GMT
#32
On April 09 2013 09:32 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:28 Shew wrote:
Players must notify MLG their intent to participate in the America region by end of day on April 8th.



Anyone know how to notify MLG?


No idea I hope they let us know soon. I mean it does sound like the first stage (at least for NA) is going to be pure invitational like every other tournament, but I could (hopefully) am wrong about this.

Not sure what tournaments you are talking about, but last year there were a lot of open bracket qualifiers.

Which is why i hate this so much. It seems like it is pure invites and no open qualification at all.
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BasicBarcode
Profile Joined May 2011
United States56 Posts
April 09 2013 00:35 GMT
#33
On April 09 2013 09:27 ffadicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:21 BasicBarcode wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:20 ffadicted wrote:
IMO the price pool and format is fine for europe, but it's an absolute disgrace that the prize pool and point distribution for GSL is the same. They're essentially ruining the prestige behind GSL (which will remain the hardest tournament to win, let's not kid ourselves, the seasonal finals will the the "Club World Cup" equivalent to GSL's "Champions League", aka kind of a fun but not serious league) just so that they can make foreigners happy to see their favorite but extremely less skilled players win games.

I don't see any insentive for koreans to stay in korea tbh. None whatsoever. And CERTAINLY no incentive for foreigners to ever go there to practice and get better and close the gap between skill level.

I'm very disappointed at WCS. Extremely disappointed.


Do we have any information that GSL isn't funding a larger prizepool with all their sponsorships?


From this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406770


Are the prize pools the same between the leagues?

Yes. All of the regional leagues will have identical prize pools and point distribution.

The prize pool breakdown for the remaining part of 2013 is as follows:
Each Regional WCS League - $100,000
Each Global Season Finals - $150,000
WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon - $250,000


That's a huge decrease for GSL then. I feel for the Code S Koreans then =\
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 09 2013 00:36 GMT
#34
On April 09 2013 09:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:31 rename wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:


Prize pools

As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.

1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300


This better be not GSL distribution.
Players from Code A up to Ro16 players are short 75657$ of prize money. ( And those none of those players are eligible for the global season finals either ).
That kind of distribution would be basically saying .. "time to buy yourself US tickets" to any ESF team that doesnt have multiple CodeS ro4 candidates.

KeSPA players are also rumoured to be strongly considering WCS NA

How does that work with their sponsors and proleague? Also added risk comes from them having to pay their own travel expenses.

I always thought that code A ESF players might make the jump, but not Kespa.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 09 2013 00:37 GMT
#35
I think 35K for first place is a bit too much(and then a chance to win some of the 150K of the season finals).

Overall the format seems pretty decent though.
All I do is Stim.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
April 09 2013 00:37 GMT
#36
Format seems to have the balance of forgiving and competitive, but my gripe is with prize pools, and how it will affect GSL. Seeing as how Blizzard wants to unite the tournament scene, giving parity in prize pools is a method of doing such, and GSL will have to conform. I'm concerned this may lower interest into the Korean WCS because Koreans are too busy moving to NA and EU for an easier opportunity, because the prize pools are equal yet with an easier player pool overall. As long as GSL has the larger prize pool, this is a non-issue, but Blizzard is attempting to have some conformity.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 00:39:36
April 09 2013 00:38 GMT
#37
On April 09 2013 09:21 Tidus Mino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:21 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:
Adam Apicella ‏@MrAdamAp 2h
The NA and EU SC2 premiere leagues are pretty amazing pending final acceptances. Can't wait to announce them

They probably have a good idea already.

Any bets on which Koreans going where? haha


It will be interesting to see how they seed Koreans into NA/EU divisions. Kaldor tweeted last night that a lot of Koreans were going to play NA if I remember correctly.


afaik EU has 4 invited Koreans, then a couple more trying to qualify

I heard Arthur will go to Europe, is it right ? And are the other korean players from WW coming with him ?

I'm ok with 4 koreans amongst 32 players, not so much but a good additional value for the competition. Still I really want they increase the korean prize pool and/or the slot distribution for the global finals.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 00:39:39
April 09 2013 00:39 GMT
#38
So It's GSL format, but instead of dropping down to Code A if you lose in the ro16 you stay in Code S.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 09 2013 00:39 GMT
#39
On April 09 2013 09:38 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:21 Tidus Mino wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:21 Laryleprakon wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:17 opterown wrote:
Adam Apicella ‏@MrAdamAp 2h
The NA and EU SC2 premiere leagues are pretty amazing pending final acceptances. Can't wait to announce them

They probably have a good idea already.

Any bets on which Koreans going where? haha


It will be interesting to see how they seed Koreans into NA/EU divisions. Kaldor tweeted last night that a lot of Koreans were going to play NA if I remember correctly.


afaik EU has 4 invited Koreans, then a couple more trying to qualify

I heard Arthur will go to Europe, is it right ? And are they other korean players from WW coming with him ?

I'm ok with 4 koreans amongst 32 players, not so much but a good additional value for the competition. Still I really want they increase the korean prize pool and/or the slot distribution for the global finals.

I think Daisy as well? Daisy is pretty EU at this point, like forgg.

On April 09 2013 09:36 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:32 opterown wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:31 rename wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:


Prize pools

As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.

1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300


This better be not GSL distribution.
Players from Code A up to Ro16 players are short 75657$ of prize money. ( And those none of those players are eligible for the global season finals either ).
That kind of distribution would be basically saying .. "time to buy yourself US tickets" to any ESF team that doesnt have multiple CodeS ro4 candidates.

KeSPA players are also rumoured to be strongly considering WCS NA

How does that work with their sponsors and proleague? Also added risk comes from them having to pay their own travel expenses.

I always thought that code A ESF players might make the jump, but not Kespa.

well they would only travel for the LAN events. a lot of them aren't qualified for GSL anyway, so might as well, I guess haha
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playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
April 09 2013 00:39 GMT
#40
On April 09 2013 09:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 09:31 rename wrote:
On April 09 2013 09:07 opterown wrote:


Prize pools

As confirmed by Blizzard representative in a Q&A thread on Sunday, each regional final’s prize pool will be identical: $100,000. The prize purse breakdown WCS Europe is proposing to players can be seen below, although it was noted that it is not final yet.

1st place: $35,000
2nd place. $15,000
3rd/4th place: $8,000
5th place: $4,000
6th place: $3,500
7th place: $3,000
8th place: $2,500
9th-12th place: $1,450
13th-16th place: $1,000
17th-24th place: $500
25th-32nd place: $300


This better be not GSL distribution.
Players from Code A up to Ro16 players are short 75657$ of prize money. ( And those none of those players are eligible for the global season finals either ).
That kind of distribution would be basically saying .. "time to buy yourself US tickets" to any ESF team that doesnt have multiple CodeS ro4 candidates.

KeSPA players are also rumoured to be strongly considering WCS NA


Would be very surprising. And, I heard people like Artosis saying that teams with Korean sponsors had laws against players playing outside of Korea, and that hell would freeze over before such a thing happened. I hope they do, though, because, then, Morhaime's "plan" to encourage lazy non Koreans with jobs and/or school to take the game more seriously will come to fruition.
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