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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 87

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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
April 03 2013 08:34 GMT
#1721
On April 03 2013 17:15 Eury wrote:
There were way too many GSLs anyway. Being a GSL champion didn't mean as much as it should had. Just look at Seed.



Are you kidding me seed is so good, and I guess I was sorta right XD
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
April 03 2013 08:36 GMT
#1722
So instead of competing OSL and GSL we just have it merged into 1 big thing and companies are just taking turns. Weird.
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
April 03 2013 08:36 GMT
#1723
Imho it kinda misses the point by allowing Koreans to play the NA or EU tourneys. Why would a Top Korean go through the much harder Korean qualification when he can just play on NA without a too noticable delay. (KR to EU will probably not happen that much because of this)
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
April 03 2013 08:37 GMT
#1724
On one hand it feels a bit silly that koreans can participate in NA or EU but it's also a bit more fair. Having a tournament this big for which 10 out of the top 16 players would otherwise be non-korean would be silly.
I guess there is a good chance this will turn out to be mostly koreans but honestly I think it should be if this is a WCS.
I wonder what format the final 16 will be, because having a tournament this big end up with just a knockout tournament or something like it would be silly. I hope for something like a week offline finals with pools and bo7s to determine the winner.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 03 2013 08:38 GMT
#1725
On April 03 2013 17:09 Elroi wrote:
My thoughts:

1) They should have a system like in the world cup in football: people can only qualify through their region, but the koreans get more spots in the tournament. (ie, OSL and GSL shouldn't be devaluated because of Koreans trying to find easier leagues to qualify from.)

2) They should have made GSTL and PL into one big team league and give out points for wins towards the global tournament. Team leagues are a very important part of Starcraft and they shoudn't be underrated.


They also could have taken the Tennis system. WCS finals could be the end-of-season ATP finals, every tournament could be a Grand Slam, Major, Challenger,etc.
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
April 03 2013 08:38 GMT
#1726
On April 03 2013 17:36 roym899 wrote:
Imho it kinda misses the point by allowing Koreans to play the NA or EU tourneys. Why would a Top Korean go through the much harder Korean qualification when he can just play on NA without a too noticable delay. (KR to EU will probably not happen that much because of this)

Does KR really get worse ping to Europe? Thats strange because Europe is physically closer to Korea than North America.
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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
April 03 2013 08:40 GMT
#1727
What will the G in GSL stand for now? It can't be "Global" anymore because of region locking. It can't be "GOM" because OGN is involved as well.

Good Starcraft II League?
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
April 03 2013 08:42 GMT
#1728
On April 03 2013 17:40 Clefairy wrote:
What will the G in GSL stand for now? It can't be "Global" anymore because of region locking. It can't be "GOM" because OGN is involved as well.

Good Starcraft II League?

WTF? It is still global, you can participate no matter where u come from.
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Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 03 2013 08:43 GMT
#1729
On April 03 2013 17:40 Clefairy wrote:
What will the G in GSL stand for now? It can't be "Global" anymore because of region locking. It can't be "GOM" because OGN is involved as well.

Good Starcraft II League?

OGN held tournament will still be OSL.
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
April 03 2013 08:44 GMT
#1730
On April 03 2013 17:40 Clefairy wrote:
What will the G in GSL stand for now? It can't be "Global" anymore because of region locking. It can't be "GOM" because OGN is involved as well.

Good Starcraft II League?

The GSL has never exactly been known for its abundance of non-Korean participants
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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
April 03 2013 08:46 GMT
#1731
On April 03 2013 17:42 bluQ wrote:
WTF? It is still global, you can participate no matter where u come from.

Yeah but who's going to lock in Korea...
On April 03 2013 17:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
OGN held tournament will still be OSL.

Oh that's a relief. Then they can go with GOM.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 03 2013 08:46 GMT
#1732
On April 03 2013 17:38 Disastorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 17:36 roym899 wrote:
Imho it kinda misses the point by allowing Koreans to play the NA or EU tourneys. Why would a Top Korean go through the much harder Korean qualification when he can just play on NA without a too noticable delay. (KR to EU will probably not happen that much because of this)

Does KR really get worse ping to Europe? Thats strange because Europe is physically closer to Korea than North America.

Yes, there's a reason why most EU vs NA games are usually played on NA server.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 03 2013 08:47 GMT
#1733
strangely similar to what League has I'm happy we will now have 2 very professional tournament scenes
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
April 03 2013 08:48 GMT
#1734
On April 03 2013 17:47 AsnSensation wrote:
strangely similar to what League has I'm happy we will now have 2 very professional tournament scenes


I f you don't count the millions Tencent injected into making league an e-sport in the first place sure ...
Gluon
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands405 Posts
April 03 2013 08:49 GMT
#1735
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Geneq
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland165 Posts
April 03 2013 08:50 GMT
#1736
Sorry if this been asked before..
So there wont be GSL as usual, only WCS Korea. OP states all casts will be free 720p.. but before GSL had tickets. What now?
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
April 03 2013 08:54 GMT
#1737
This is some thoughts of mine regarding the tiering issue: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=406081

I have nothing to say about the koreans-can-play-anywhere thing though because that's ultra stupid and will only cause problems in the long run.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
April 03 2013 08:55 GMT
#1738
On April 03 2013 17:34 igay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 17:15 Eury wrote:
There were way too many GSLs anyway. Being a GSL champion didn't mean as much as it should had. Just look at Seed.



Are you kidding me seed is so good, and I guess I was sorta right XD


You missed my point. Winning a GSL should be a huge deal but many don't even remember Seed winning it because one GSL isn't worth much when you have 10 a year. The most prestigious sporting events in the world are the olympics and the world cup in soccer largely because they happen rarely.

I think 2 GSL and 2 OSL a year is pretty much perfect for the scene.
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
April 03 2013 08:56 GMT
#1739
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@LiquidTaeJa It tasted bad...



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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
April 03 2013 08:57 GMT
#1740
I'm sure I'm repeating what so many others have already said, but...so excited!!
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