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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 88

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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
April 03 2013 08:59 GMT
#1741
I'm glad there will be fewer GSL's
rly ?
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
April 03 2013 08:59 GMT
#1742
So there will be less GSL seasons every year now correct? But the prizepool of a single GSL remains the same? This would be pretty sad imho.
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
April 03 2013 09:02 GMT
#1743
On April 03 2013 17:33 Incomplet wrote:
Very happy with this! Looking forward to the top 16 Koreans in the finals!
Screw the foreigners, if they can't keep up then bad luck, practice harder.

Yeah, because we never had any foreigners in the top 16 of GSL.

Oh wait, we did, and it was from the one or two players that got a seed into Code S. What would have happened if we had a big tournament with 60-70 foreigners and 10-20 koreans (which is what I expect from the EU/US tournaments)?

I don't want a WCS final with 5 koreans and 10 foreigners who have barely played the korean scene and therefore get walked all over. I much prefer the koreans to enter the EU/US tournaments, beat up some "scrubs" and raise the level of the tournament to a level where they have a very good chaince in the WCS finals.
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
April 03 2013 09:05 GMT
#1744
It shouldn`t be locked by natinality i agree, BUT lock it on where you live, thus makining it posible for violet or polt to play NA, but not for MVP or MKP! People who live in a certain region should only be able to play in the regional league, otherwise it just doesn't make sense. It isn't entirely clear to me if that is already the case since it hasn't been denied, but it also hasn't been confirmed to this date.


MagmaPunch
Profile Joined November 2011
Bulgaria536 Posts
April 03 2013 09:06 GMT
#1745
Oh my God ! The prize pool is going to be insane! Awesome, Blizzard !
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
lowdice
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden306 Posts
April 03 2013 09:07 GMT
#1746
This will kill E-sports.
You only have a little spark of madness, you mustn't lose it!
Csong
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 09:09:03
April 03 2013 09:07 GMT
#1747
well i guess now foreigners should just give up trying to even qualifying for wcs
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3772 Posts
April 03 2013 09:10 GMT
#1748
On April 03 2013 17:38 Disastorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 17:36 roym899 wrote:
Imho it kinda misses the point by allowing Koreans to play the NA or EU tourneys. Why would a Top Korean go through the much harder Korean qualification when he can just play on NA without a too noticable delay. (KR to EU will probably not happen that much because of this)

Does KR really get worse ping to Europe? Thats strange because Europe is physically closer to Korea than North America.

But between states and east Asia you just have one long underwater optical cable, while between east asia and europe you have to go from network of some of the countries in between.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 03 2013 09:12 GMT
#1749
Less GSLs a year? About time..... Maybe people will actually start caring about GSL champions again.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
theatreofwar
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada60 Posts
April 03 2013 09:13 GMT
#1750
Sigh. It makes me so sad to see the GSL being tampered with.. It's the only tournament that I follow religiously these days because pretty much all other ones are just not up to par
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 03 2013 09:14 GMT
#1751
On April 03 2013 17:46 Clefairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 17:42 bluQ wrote:
WTF? It is still global, you can participate no matter where u come from.

Yeah but who's going to lock in Korea...
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 17:43 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
OGN held tournament will still be OSL.

Oh that's a relief. Then they can go with GOM.

It was always locked in korea since you know, you need to physically be there.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
April 03 2013 09:15 GMT
#1752
This is both exciting and scary. I have so many mixed feelings about it. In the end we want a fair system that rewards the best players but at the same time grows the scene and expands it to all corners of the world. Will this do the job? Im curious as to how this huge change of the scene came about. Did OSL/GSL/others and Blizzard work on this together from scratch or did Blizzard turn up with this idea and say "this is whats going to happen".

Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 03 2013 09:17 GMT
#1753
On April 03 2013 18:13 theatreofwar wrote:
Sigh. It makes me so sad to see the GSL being tampered with.. It's the only tournament that I follow religiously these days because pretty much all other ones are just not up to par

GSL has not changed in any way whatsoever. ok, OGN will also broadcast it, but you can still just watch on GOM (like everybody else will because Tastosis). aside from that, the GSL is still the same tournament as before, except HD is now apparently free.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 09:19:59
April 03 2013 09:19 GMT
#1754
On April 03 2013 18:17 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 18:13 theatreofwar wrote:
Sigh. It makes me so sad to see the GSL being tampered with.. It's the only tournament that I follow religiously these days because pretty much all other ones are just not up to par

GSL has not changed in any way whatsoever. ok, OGN will also broadcast it, but you can still just watch on GOM (like everybody else will because Tastosis). aside from that, the GSL is still the same tournament as before, except HD is now apparently free.

Except there will be less GSL each year.
-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
April 03 2013 09:23 GMT
#1755
Less GSLs = GSL is more prestigious.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 03 2013 09:23 GMT
#1756
Pretty surprised (in a positive way) to see the organizers not caving in to the whole "we want more foreigners / foreigner only tournaments" pressure.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 03 2013 09:23 GMT
#1757
On April 03 2013 18:19 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 18:17 Schelim wrote:
On April 03 2013 18:13 theatreofwar wrote:
Sigh. It makes me so sad to see the GSL being tampered with.. It's the only tournament that I follow religiously these days because pretty much all other ones are just not up to par

GSL has not changed in any way whatsoever. ok, OGN will also broadcast it, but you can still just watch on GOM (like everybody else will because Tastosis). aside from that, the GSL is still the same tournament as before, except HD is now apparently free.

Except there will be less GSL each year.

that remains to be seen. it does say in the Blizzard announcement that tournaments can still hold events that aren't part of WCS.

but tbh, 3 GSL seasons and 1 OSL season broadcast by GOM and casted by Tastosis is plenty of top level starcraft to watch. if you have a job, school, life or anything of the sort you will find it's actually kind of hard to watch all of it at times.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 03 2013 09:24 GMT
#1758
On April 03 2013 18:19 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 18:17 Schelim wrote:
On April 03 2013 18:13 theatreofwar wrote:
Sigh. It makes me so sad to see the GSL being tampered with.. It's the only tournament that I follow religiously these days because pretty much all other ones are just not up to par

GSL has not changed in any way whatsoever. ok, OGN will also broadcast it, but you can still just watch on GOM (like everybody else will because Tastosis). aside from that, the GSL is still the same tournament as before, except HD is now apparently free.

Except there will be less GSL each year.


Not necessarily.
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Cuh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States403 Posts
April 03 2013 09:25 GMT
#1759
Gratz ST_Life
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Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
April 03 2013 09:28 GMT
#1760
I don't want to sound like a whiner because this is a big step up and a very positive effort, but I can't help but quickly list the pros and cons inside my head and found quite a lot of issues I have with this.

Pros:
-More organised global ranking system for all players.

-More prize money $$$! That means more motivation and incentive for pros to improve skill level.

-Allowing more people, opening the chance for non Koreans to now compete in the "top tier" of pro SC2.

Cons:
-Unfair ranking/seeding system for the global finals: Seeing there will be 5 US and 5 European against 5 Korean slots when really among the top 32 players in the world how many non-Koreans are there if any? Frankly I'd enjoy watching the Korean comp and regard it more highly than the global finals in this case. I see a lot of Koreans trying to qualify in the other two with this being the case, looks like Polt, Hyun etc are already aware and have made the moves to prepare.

-Potential negative effect on non official leagues? NASL and Dreamhack are two notable organisations I can see lose out in this situation, they have to schedule to fit the WCS now and will possibly appear to carry less prestige, I hope they survive because even though I never followed them as well as I follow the Korean comps I enjoy turning on twitch and watching the latter stages of these tournaments when time allows.

-Not inclusive of all regions, notably China (+Taiwan a.k.a Sen) misses out on getting their own region, they seem to be the country behind Korea with the highest skilled pros (They showed this when given their rare chances such as WCG and WCS). It will be hard for them to make it in Korea which means they are forced to compete in Europe or US? If they don't relocate they will have to endure lag during the online stages and maybe have to splash out on travel when they make the live stages? I also feel a bit sad Australia (and any other country/region such as SEA, South Americas, Africa! Antartica! even penguins deserve some love ok) is not given a chance, sure we're not a great eSports nation but surely we deserve some qualifier to get a chance at one of the main tournaments? Direct seeding will not be fair imo, I'd like to see some form of competition...

-I think we'll be seeing less Starcraft as a result, only 3 seasons of GSL + OSL combined for the rest of 2013? Not sure about how stretched out they're going to make a season be really.

-No points for GSTL and ProLeague this year. These are prestigious competitions and imo should really be given more consideration and give more chances to eSF and KeSPA players (refer con number 1).

Ah wells, we'll see how things turn out. Hoping for all the best, and seriously hope Blizzard reconsider their global finals distribution policy. It's not as bad as it was in WCS 2012 where there were awfully few Koreans out of 32 and almost all Protoss (leading to PvP PvP PvP...) I see that potentially happening again T_T
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