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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 85

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xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
April 03 2013 08:00 GMT
#1681
Wow.... The most prize pool tournament with the worst qualifying process.... You are talking about online qualifiers, most likely having koreans representing foreign regions. Well what do I know, it's Blizzard tournament and how they get to decide how to
run the tournaments. My prediction is like 12/16 spots in WCS finals will be korean.
nucleo
Profile Joined February 2011
292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 08:28:06
April 03 2013 08:03 GMT
#1682
It's nice that they give player the option to decide the region they want to play in but IMO it's also nice that they put some limitations on the transfers.
A plauer like polt or even demuslim should be able to play on NA but they both need to know the decision they are making. Same goes for a player living in Korea.

There will be korean players left out of the finals that are better than foreigners in it, but this will also be the case when a Code A level player gets in from North America while a Code S level player gets knocked out in the GSL\OSL.

Isn't WCS supposed to be composed of the best players from each region? Not a game of "musical chairs".
I feel some leniency is good and so is strictness in this case.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 03 2013 08:03 GMT
#1683
So Dreamhack and NASL are going to be treated as low-level leagues from now on???????? I mean Dreamhack in Swede is what Ogn Starleague is like in Korea isnt it??
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MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
April 03 2013 08:03 GMT
#1684
I'll just see how this turns out before I react.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 03 2013 08:04 GMT
#1685
On April 03 2013 16:56 GoingGoingGone wrote:
Just a few of my thoughts:
3) It will be interesting to see which Korean players (and teams) will choose to play the Korean region and which will play EU/NA.

I am excited, but skeptical. It could be amazing. It could fail. Let's grab some popcorn, wait and see.


Alot, in fact, almost all of them. Becaues if Code S is really the qualifier for the WCS Korea, then the qualifiers for WCS Korea is only limited to the Code S players, which means that every other Korean progamer must search for their luck on another server.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 08:05:55
April 03 2013 08:04 GMT
#1686
From what I have heard ESF/KeSPA players picked their region last Friday already so I doubt we will have a huge influx of Koreans in the West this year. And next year hopefully everything will be done on location and not online.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
April 03 2013 08:06 GMT
#1687
Wow prize POOl IS AWESOME!
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
April 03 2013 08:06 GMT
#1688
On April 03 2013 16:59 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:38 monkybone wrote:
This is awesome. But if it means less tastosis it is not


It's going to be the same amount of tastosis. Originally there were 4 code s this year. Now there's only 3 code s and 1 osl. Tastosis will cast the osl, which makes up for the missing gsl. So in the end, they will still be casting 4 KR tournaments this year as originally planned.


2 GSL's and 1 OSL, and they are actually the same tournament just different names. GSL qualifiers apply towards the next WCS season (OSL) and so on. The korean scene is being gutted I fear and they are the ones that are pushing the scene forward.
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Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
April 03 2013 08:06 GMT
#1689
It would be cool if ESL and MLG could have studios in EU and NA where players would come to play. Like Take does in Germany.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 03 2013 08:07 GMT
#1690
it's a pity they dropped the national tournaments thing, it was great for the smaller scenes in some countries such as Italy, UK, Poland etc. It created the idea of a 'national champion' in europe. it's also a pity that China will not be any closer to international SC2 this year, kinda ironic since they hosted the world finals in Beijing last year but oh well...

Furthermore, I'm guessing NASL, IEM, MLG and DreamHack will still be running their regular events, and it seems the pros will have extremely busy schedules if they want to participate in everything.

I think it would have made more sense if they were limited by geography, rather than choosing a location willy nilly. What's the point of having 3 out of 5 American or European finalists residing and playing from Korea? I mean, ForGG, ReaL, Polt, and the Clarity Koreans are going through through the extra expense of living abroad to be able to compete in EU/NA, so a ton of Koreans can do the exact thing from home? If its an EU League, they should at least be temporarily living in the EU.
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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
April 03 2013 08:07 GMT
#1691
This is lame. I was just really looking forward to an awesome GSL with a revitalized game without Broodlord Infestor... Then having the GSL champ assert his dominance by destroying MLG, IEM, Dreamhack, Iron Squid, NASL e.t.c.

Wish Blizzard didn't bother butting in.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 03 2013 08:08 GMT
#1692
On April 03 2013 17:06 Insoleet wrote:
It would be cool if ESL and MLG could have studios in EU and NA where players would come to play. Like Take does in Germany.

was thinking about this too. perhaps ESL could work something out with Take for the EU one, would be awesome.
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nucleo
Profile Joined February 2011
292 Posts
April 03 2013 08:09 GMT
#1693
On April 03 2013 17:04 Eury wrote:
From what I have heard ESF/KeSPA players picked their region last Friday already so I doubt we will have a huge influx of Koreans in the West this year. And next year hopefully everything will be done on location and not online.


Might be a problem with such big continents and such different infrastructure (referring to that of esports, team houses etc).
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 03 2013 08:09 GMT
#1694
What does the following mean:

Players must pick what region they wish to play in, and are not restricted by nationality. It is possible for Korean players to choose to play in the NA/EU online leagues if they qualify.


??
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
April 03 2013 08:09 GMT
#1695
My thoughts:

1) They should have a system like in the world cup in football: people can only qualify through their region, but the koreans get more spots in the tournament. (ie, OSL and GSL shouldn't be devaluated because of Koreans trying to find easier leagues to qualify from.)

2) They should have made GSTL and PL into one big team league and give out points for wins towards the global tournament. Team leagues are a very important part of Starcraft and they shoudn't be underrated.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
April 03 2013 08:10 GMT
#1696
On April 03 2013 17:09 nucleo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 17:04 Eury wrote:
From what I have heard ESF/KeSPA players picked their region last Friday already so I doubt we will have a huge influx of Koreans in the West this year. And next year hopefully everything will be done on location and not online.


Might be a problem with such big continents and such different infrastructure (referring to that of esports, team houses etc).


Hence why Blizzard said that if this year is successful they will invest way more money into it.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 03 2013 08:10 GMT
#1697
On April 03 2013 17:06 Insoleet wrote:
It would be cool if ESL and MLG could have studios in EU and NA where players would come to play. Like Take does in Germany.

ESL do have studios in Cologne, they hold tons of tournaments there, like EPS Germany, WCS Germany, WCS Combined European Finals and lots of tournaments for other games.

MLG might be doing something as incontrol hinted in San Francisco no?
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labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
April 03 2013 08:11 GMT
#1698
I don't like this one bit. Now every non-WCS tournament is going to be classified like a second rate tournament, and also it will be hilarious when all representatives from NA and EU are Korean.
EnderSword
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada669 Posts
April 03 2013 08:11 GMT
#1699
On April 03 2013 17:06 jackslater wrote:
Wow prize POOl IS AWESOME!


I'm a little mixed on the Prize pool...to be clear, this is 1.6 Million for the Year...spread over 13 different events.

Some of the events it's replacing have prize pools of 100k or so anyway.

So I mean, yes, its cool, it's an increase, but just keep in mind its replacing the normal Code S and so on prize pools.
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 08:13:16
April 03 2013 08:11 GMT
#1700
On April 03 2013 16:59 guruPanda wrote:
Is SC2 still going to be played in the normal MLG Pro Circuit? I take it that the Season Finales held in NA will be hosted by MLG, but that is only one offline-event a year.

And as far as Dreamhack and NASL are concerned, at least for dreamhack we can say that offline-events will still have thheir place outside of WCS, the only thing I see greatly affected here is that maybe NA-players will be less inclined to travel (more like Koreans nowadays.) As for NASL, maybe they have to change their Format.


There will still be normal MLG Pro Circuit that take place during the weekend. The WCS is another tournament that is separated from the current MLG.

On April 03 2013 17:07 Clefairy wrote:
This is lame. I was just really looking forward to an awesome GSL with a revitalized game without Broodlord Infestor... Then having the GSL champ assert his dominance by destroying MLG, IEM, Dreamhack, Iron Squid, NASL e.t.c.

Wish Blizzard didn't bother butting in.


Huh, we still have that. It just GSL/OSL are used to contribute to a bigger system but we would still have the same GSL, MLG, IEM, etc.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
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