EPTWCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 83
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:18 MCXD wrote: Well, in any case, it's not like it's going to stop them from swapping, lol. It's not, and it's a very good thing!! It's just that current code S players are stuck with the highest level of competition for the entire year by default, and code A players are fucked out of any chance of attending the WCS Finals at Blizzcon if they do not have the funds to go abroad, which is fucking stupid. | ||
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HotShizz
France710 Posts
Korean players will have an option to switch their region at the end of the first season. is just misspoken not the actual rule. Pretty fucked if a foreigner living in Korea for the first "season" can't move home for the second if he decides he no longer wants to be in Korea, or a foreigner who plays EU for the first season can't go to Korea to train and compete for the second, however a Korean living in the US has a chance to move home between the two and is still allowed to play, if in a harder bracket, or a Korean who decides to go to school in the west can switch and still compete. Hopefully what they meant to say, and what wouldn't be a giant pile of bigoted shit, is players will have an option regardless of nationality to switch region at the end of the first season. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
Q: What about other tournaments? Does this mean there will be no leagues outside of WCS? A: Not at all! Other tournaments will be free to carry on with their own competitions, so long as their broadcasts do not overlap with WCS events. These events continue to play home to some awesome StarCraft II eSports action, and we're dedicated to preserving as much of the existing landscape as possible. Select tournaments and leagues will even contribute to players' WCS point rankings, even though they aren't part of the WCS itself. This should help create a niche for these competitions in the system and encourage pro players to continue competing in them as before. Our goal was to create an approach that affords as much opportunity as possible to other competitions, and offers a variety of options for players and spectators. So I guess it really depends on whether or not these leagues want to hold additional tournaments. | ||
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ThomasR
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
I have a feeling this tournament will be a blunder in the long run. I don't see the korean SC scene being sustainable with so few tournaments that they can play in. | ||
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:21 dacimvrl wrote: It's not, and it's a very good thing!! It's just that current code S players are stuck with the highest level of competition for the entire year by default, and code A players are fucked out of any chance of attending the WCS Finals at Blizzcon if they do not have the funds to go abroad, which is fucking stupid. Well, tbh its most likely a reason why they are Code-A in the first place, and if they are good enough, they will be sent abroad, every team have the policy to send theier best inhouse performing players abroad. I dont understand why this community always thinks everyone should hold hands and have a chance at everything, its so many good koreans, the best ones are the ones that wins, the best ones are already on code-s. | ||
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:26 Atoissen wrote: Well, tbh its most likely a reason why they are Code-A in the first place, and if they are good enough, they will be sent abroad, every team have the policy to send theier best inhouse performing players abroad. I dont understand why this community always thinks everyone should hold hands and have a chance at everything, its so many good koreans, the best ones are the ones that wins, the best ones are already on code-s. So you want to stifle the korean scene in order to help the foreign scene? Those code A players that 'aren't good enough' are better than 99% of foreigners who probably wont make it anyways because the few koreans who are code a/b and can afford the trip will win their qualifiers. | ||
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bhfberserk
Canada390 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:26 Atoissen wrote: I dont understand why this community always thinks everyone should hold hands and have a chance at everything, its so many good koreans, the best ones are the ones that wins, the best ones are already on code-s. you're right, MVP sucks amirite | ||
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Aetherial
Australia917 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:25 zefreak wrote: This format fucking sucks. They are destroying the prestige of the GSL (koreans who play in other regions, and many will, cannot play in GSL at all), while penalizing koreans not already in Code S (1/3 of the points possible through GSL and OSL already closed to them) and removing any hope for foreign competition in korea. I have a feeling this tournament will be a blunder in the long run. I don't see the korean SC scene being sustainable with so few tournaments that they can play in. Well put my friend... GSL was working well for what it was, they just had to screw around with it. Maybe Blizzard hasn't heard of the saying if it an't broke don't fix it! | ||
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:26 Atoissen wrote: Well, tbh its most likely a reason why they are Code-A in the first place, and if they are good enough, they will be sent abroad, every team have the policy to send theier best inhouse performing players abroad. I dont understand why this community always thinks everyone should hold hands and have a chance at everything, its so many good koreans, the best ones are the ones that wins, the best ones are already on code-s. Well, see, that's the exact same logic you should be applying to the whole region locking issue.. why should all the foreigners hold hands and have a chance at everything when in fact the top 16 players of the finals should all be Korean? I'd personally rather watch all Korean top 16. Why do they even have to spend the extra money to go abroad, just because blizz decided to hand out 5 easy spots to platinum players in US and EU? The rankings, IMO, should be universal, region locking is retarded. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:32 bhfberserk wrote: This sounds pretty bad. People like to watch GSl because it is the most difficult league out there. With this region switching format, I am sure there will be a lot of koreas going to other regions to play to get better prize money. and thus ruin the korea scene. This is what I am saying, they are unintentionally hurting the GSL and OSL. They are basically saying: "Hey guys, you can get a lot of money very easily by playing these other regions, but then you can't play GSL or OSL" WCS was a joke compared to GSL and this is going to be more of the same, but harming GSL in the process. | ||
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CarlosOmse
Germany507 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:09 Fubi wrote: I don't see how this system is fair for non-Code S koreans atm. They would have to waste at least the first season to try to qualify. And since there are only 3 seasons this year (2 GSL and 1 OSL), they would of lost 1/3 of the potential points they could earn for the year, making it ridiculously hard to catch up to become top 16. A ranking reset should take place imo. well all non code-s koreans will play EU and NA i assume | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:28 zefreak wrote: So you want to stifle the korean scene in order to help the foreign scene? Those code A players that 'aren't good enough' are better than 99% of foreigners who probably wont make it anyways because the few koreans who are code a/b and can afford the trip will win their qualifiers. Still, winning WCS NA and EU would not be the same as winning GSL/OSL. Sure, they might have more chance to earn more money, but they will never be remember as "GSL/OSL" champion. GSL/OSL still are the most prestige tournaments out there in the scene. Good players might just want money but great and respectable players will still want to win the most prestigious league in the world. | ||
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Account252508
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On April 03 2013 16:38 Veldril wrote: Still, winning WCS NA and EU would not be the same as winning GSL/OSL. Sure, they might have more chance to earn more money, but they will never be remember as "GSL/OSL" champion. GSL/OSL still are the most prestige tournaments out there in the scene. Good players might just want money but great and respectable players will still want to win the most prestigious league in the world. I agree, my fear is that GSL (and OSL) cannot be considered the most prestigious leagues in the world if half of the koreans are banned from playing in them. Right now EVERY korean tries for GSL and OSL. That's why they matter. | ||
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Negius
Netherlands290 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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