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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 82

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Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
April 03 2013 07:07 GMT
#1621
So this means that no GSL will happen this year anymore?

Not sure if i like that.

And why isn't Dreamhack involved? They made the awesome EU Finals last year, and it was the best Event of the whole Seasion!
And i dont think that the second Korean Season will be so good...I mean, not so many people will watch, just because of the casters.

And if, let's say, 5 Koreans are in the EU Finals, it wouldn't be exiting at all. That was the special thing about the last Finals.
So i agree with MC.
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Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
April 03 2013 07:09 GMT
#1622
I'm not sure what some of you are saying, you are saying blizzard should lock people by geography. But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily). And obviously, they can't discriminate based on the race of a person, so what do you want Blizzard to do if a Korean moves somewhere to participate?
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
April 03 2013 07:09 GMT
#1623
I don't see how this system is fair for non-Code S koreans atm. They would have to waste at least the first season to try to qualify. And since there are only 3 seasons this year (2 GSL and 1 OSL), they would of lost 1/3 of the potential points they could earn for the year, making it ridiculously hard to catch up to become top 16.

A ranking reset should take place imo.
HowdySC2
Profile Joined March 2013
United States15 Posts
April 03 2013 07:10 GMT
#1624
The thing I hate most about this announcement is that it completely snubs the China and Taiwanese scene.
Based fOrGG
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
April 03 2013 07:11 GMT
#1625
On April 03 2013 16:09 Disastorm wrote:
But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily)


Nope. A Korean who lives in Korea and never leaves Korea can play on NA/EU if they are willing to put up with the latency, which many are, and will, if it means much easier opponents and better opportunities (and more money).
DJSub
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia261 Posts
April 03 2013 07:11 GMT
#1626
For me this format totally sucks. I only watch my favorite players play, and looks like none of them will be playing in MLG or IEM anymore if they stay in Korea. Much less exposure and much less chance to earn prize money for them. And looks like less watching SC2 for me.
408xParadox
Profile Joined December 2011
United States140 Posts
April 03 2013 07:11 GMT
#1627
On April 03 2013 16:09 Disastorm wrote:
I'm not sure what some of you are saying, you are saying blizzard should lock people by geography. But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily). And obviously, they can't discriminate based on the race of a person, so what do you want Blizzard to do if a Korean moves somewhere to participate?


No they dont have to move there. They just can only play wcs events in that region. If you choose korea, you can only play gsl/osl. If you choose na you can only play mlg wcs, and europe iem wcs. All players can play non ecs events such as NASL and Dreamhack.

So koreans can just train in korea, go to IEM for the weekend and mop up the foreigner noobs.
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
April 03 2013 07:11 GMT
#1628
On April 03 2013 16:06 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 14:52 vesicular wrote:
On April 03 2013 14:51 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On April 03 2013 14:41 myRZeth wrote:
this is just stupid

last wcs system was 10 times more interesting and finally a chance for upcoming players

this is for koreans to farm money


While I doubt this was done intentionally, I can see how abuse can stem from it. Imagine Root, Quantic, or Western Wolves bringing over their star players to compete in their home league. I doubt KESPA or ESF teams will send players over, but I can easily see foreign teams doing it.


I'd almost put money on Jaedong playing NA.


Why? He lives in Korea.

I think people should stop bitching about Koreans farming NA/EU. I'd rather watch good Koreans playing, than watching GoOdy get supply blocked every other minute like he did against Stephano in HSC VI.

Foreigners are great to watch when they are good at the game - if i wanted to see noobs play i would watch my own replays.


that's what i mean..
i want see good games..great games that i will remember
that's what i care about as a audience
IM_MVP | DRG (<ゝω·)☆
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 07:13:05
April 03 2013 07:12 GMT
#1629
Also the reason why (I'm sure), in Blizzard's eyes, a ranking reset with full qualifiers isn't possible, is because they would put everything a weeks or months behind schedule. That's all there is to it. There is no time to run qualifiers without going back to the drawing board on everything.
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
April 03 2013 07:12 GMT
#1630
On April 03 2013 16:11 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:09 Disastorm wrote:
But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily)


Nope. A Korean who lives in Korea and never leaves Korea can play on NA/EU if they are willing to put up with the latency, which many are, and will, if it means much easier opponents and better opportunities (and more money).


reading comprehension my friend.. The interview mentioned top 16 of each tournament is played in a studio environment.. So if a Kr doesn't leave Korea, how does he play in the studio in the US?
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
April 03 2013 07:13 GMT
#1631
So they create additional leagues in EU and NA. They also don't forbit Koreans from competing in other leagues.

The result?

"Whaaat? Why more content? Now Koreans won't compete in one league only ((((.
So what if Koreans are happy they get bigger chance for a break through? So what if foreigners will have stable leagues which make they practice more and become better? So what if there is so much more content and first global league with seasons. I want all Koreans in one place. This suuuucks."

This is pretty facepalm worthy.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 07:15:58
April 03 2013 07:13 GMT
#1632
On April 03 2013 16:12 dacimvrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:11 MCXD wrote:
On April 03 2013 16:09 Disastorm wrote:
But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily)


Nope. A Korean who lives in Korea and never leaves Korea can play on NA/EU if they are willing to put up with the latency, which many are, and will, if it means much easier opponents and better opportunities (and more money).


reading comprehension my friend.. The interview mentioned top 16 of each tournament is played in a studio environment.. So if a Kr doesn't leave Korea, how does he play in the studio in the US?


How do you know the top 16 isn't played over a week or weekend and can't be funded by the team (or even Blizzard/MLG/IEM)?

It's not much easier for a NA player to fly cross country and stay somewhere else for a month for the Ro16 than it is for a korean to do that. It would be astonishing if the Ro16 onward wasn't played out ASAP.
cladoliver
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil38 Posts
April 03 2013 07:14 GMT
#1633
i think if a korean go to NA he goes under the qualify, so he cant win in the first season at all, just in the others, because the first seeds are going to give to players by nationality, if a korean want to go to NA he needs to start from begining IMO.
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
April 03 2013 07:14 GMT
#1634
On April 03 2013 16:11 408xParadox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:09 Disastorm wrote:
I'm not sure what some of you are saying, you are saying blizzard should lock people by geography. But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily). And obviously, they can't discriminate based on the race of a person, so what do you want Blizzard to do if a Korean moves somewhere to participate?


No they dont have to move there. They just can only play wcs events in that region. If you choose korea, you can only play gsl/osl. If you choose na you can only play mlg wcs, and europe iem wcs. All players can play non ecs events such as NASL and Dreamhack.

So koreans can just train in korea, go to IEM for the weekend and mop up the foreigner noobs.

Oh ok i forgot that some of the WCS are playable online via the internet (so koreans dont actually have to go there until the final stages?)
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 07:17:58
April 03 2013 07:16 GMT
#1635
On April 03 2013 16:13 MCXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:12 dacimvrl wrote:
On April 03 2013 16:11 MCXD wrote:
On April 03 2013 16:09 Disastorm wrote:
But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily)


Nope. A Korean who lives in Korea and never leaves Korea can play on NA/EU if they are willing to put up with the latency, which many are, and will, if it means much easier opponents and better opportunities (and more money).


reading comprehension my friend.. The interview mentioned top 16 of each tournament is played in a studio environment.. So if a Kr doesn't leave Korea, how does he play in the studio in the US?


How do you know the top 16 isn't played over a week or weekend and can't be funded by the team (or even Blizzard/MLG/IEM)?


I never said that, but you said A korean can NEVER leave Korea and play on NA/EU, which is false.... Logic, my friend, because he WILL have to leave Korea to play in the top 16, be it a weekend or 2, he HAS TO leave Kr to progress.
Mirror0423
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States175 Posts
April 03 2013 07:17 GMT
#1636
On April 03 2013 16:07 Qaatar wrote:
According to TB and the Lo3 guys, the Korean pros already made their region decisions last week. However, from seeing these twitter reactions from players, it's almost like they just learned about this news today. Am I missing something here?

It seems like people who were "qualified" for WCS Korea weren't really given a choice. Since they're already competing in WCS Korea, they weren't allowed to choose to move to a different region. That's just what it seems like, since all these tweets are coming from players who are in CodeA/CodeS already.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 03 2013 07:17 GMT
#1637
I would have liked to see Dreamhack play a part in this but other than that I'm SUPER excited.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 07:19:23
April 03 2013 07:18 GMT
#1638
On April 03 2013 16:16 dacimvrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:13 MCXD wrote:
On April 03 2013 16:12 dacimvrl wrote:
On April 03 2013 16:11 MCXD wrote:
On April 03 2013 16:09 Disastorm wrote:
But that is what they are basically doing, since if koreans want to participate in europe or america they have to move there (at least temporarily)


Nope. A Korean who lives in Korea and never leaves Korea can play on NA/EU if they are willing to put up with the latency, which many are, and will, if it means much easier opponents and better opportunities (and more money).


reading comprehension my friend.. The interview mentioned top 16 of each tournament is played in a studio environment.. So if a Kr doesn't leave Korea, how does he play in the studio in the US?


How do you know the top 16 isn't played over a week or weekend and can't be funded by the team (or even Blizzard/MLG/IEM)?


I never said that, but you said A korean can NEVER leave Korea and play on NA/EU, which is false.... Logic, my friend.


Well, in any case, it's not like it's going to stop them from swapping, lol. If they have to spend a week overseas, so be it. I am certain many of them will take the opportunity, considering how many compete in qualifiers for overseas events very regularly in the years before now.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 03 2013 07:18 GMT
#1639
On April 03 2013 16:17 Mirror0423 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 16:07 Qaatar wrote:
According to TB and the Lo3 guys, the Korean pros already made their region decisions last week. However, from seeing these twitter reactions from players, it's almost like they just learned about this news today. Am I missing something here?

It seems like people who were "qualified" for WCS Korea weren't really given a choice. Since they're already competing in WCS Korea, they weren't allowed to choose to move to a different region. That's just what it seems like, since all these tweets are coming from players who are in CodeA/CodeS already.

everyone that wants to play in the GSL would have had to choose KR region already too for the next season because the date to sign up for the qualifiers was this last weekend
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Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
April 03 2013 07:20 GMT
#1640
Less GSL run events, I'm not a fan of that...
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