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On March 30 2013 03:19 FrogOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 02:54 Snoodles wrote: I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up. Man up and do something he doesn't enjoy ... because? And your assumption that he can't deal with any kind of hard work is something you totally pulled out of your ass. Speaking of which, "medical school and residency" isn't a profession. Because...he gets payed for it?
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On March 30 2013 13:20 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 03:19 FrogOfWar wrote:On March 30 2013 02:54 Snoodles wrote: I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up. Man up and do something he doesn't enjoy ... because? And your assumption that he can't deal with any kind of hard work is something you totally pulled out of your ass. Speaking of which, "medical school and residency" isn't a profession. Because...he gets payed for it?
People should enjoy their jobs and if you don't like living in a place, don't live there. Stephano is very frank when he says that he does not care about Korea(I know people on TL will be shocked by this) and cares way more about winning back home. I am not really surprised.
Medical school is hard and eats up a lot of your like. If Stephano was in Korea saying "I think I would be happier back home in medical school," I fully trust his judgment that it is time for him to go back home. I know people on TL are obsessed with beating Koreans, but making yourself miserable to win a championship that 10 years from now no one you know will ever have heard of(aka, when he is a doctor) is just not worth it.
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i dont know why you even try to write sth like that. a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt.
it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts.
his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore.
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On March 30 2013 16:57 ScarPe wrote: i dont know why you even try to write sth like that. a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt.
it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts.
his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore.
There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy.
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Comes across as genuine and such a boss. EG Fighting!
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This might be slightly off-topic but I've always wondered if progamers would put their sc2 career on their CV when they apply for jobs? On one hand it is your job and should obv. be put there but on the other hand the employer might find it... unserious? "So.. you've been at your computer for 8h a day for 2 years?"
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On March 30 2013 20:59 SCRaining wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 16:57 ScarPe wrote: i dont know why you even try to write sth like that. a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt.
it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts.
his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore. There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy.
But none with the same magic :-)
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On March 30 2013 21:04 NVRLand wrote: This might be slightly off-topic but I've always wondered if progamers would put their sc2 career on their CV when they apply for jobs? On one hand it is your job and should obv. be put there but on the other hand the employer might find it... unserious? "So.. you've been at your computer for 8h a day for 2 years?" As always in life, depending on where you want to apply. In stephano's terms I would ALWAYS put it on there, you can just crush any uncertainty if that was a good thing by presenting them the cumulated winnings of his 2 years carrer. As for a player like Machine, I wouldnt recommend it too much
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On March 30 2013 21:04 NVRLand wrote: This might be slightly off-topic but I've always wondered if progamers would put their sc2 career on their CV when they apply for jobs? On one hand it is your job and should obv. be put there but on the other hand the employer might find it... unserious? "So.. you've been at your computer for 8h a day for 2 years?" To which you could talk about the discipline required to keep improving, the desire for excellence, the never-say-die attitude, etc., which are all pretty good character traits for a working person.
Of course there're employers who'd write you off immediately, but for employers who are less bias and willing to give you a chance to talk about it, it's a lot about how you present it
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It makes sense really. He earned a lot of money while being able to enjoy the game. But now he only enjoys it when he wins. Very realistic approach that more people should take. If something isnt working out for you then you just have to move on before you get too old.
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On March 30 2013 20:59 SCRaining wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 16:57 ScarPe wrote: i dont know why you even try to write sth like that. a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt.
it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts.
his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore. There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy.
but i dont like them. TLO and Life are just boring, Scarlett is some1 without any personality at all.
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On March 30 2013 21:54 ScarPe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 20:59 SCRaining wrote:On March 30 2013 16:57 ScarPe wrote: i dont know why you even try to write sth like that. a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt.
it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts.
his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore. There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy. but i dont like them. TLO and Life are just boring, Scarlett is some1 without any personality at all. I am a big Stephano fan but Life is awesome sorry .  Scarlett style was boring in Wol (mostly because of the metagame) but she's still a very very talented player .
Sad that he wants to retire but can't blame him ! He has matured a lot and I think this video shows it perfectly . Nothing but respect gl Stephano .
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On March 30 2013 21:54 ScarPe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 20:59 SCRaining wrote:On March 30 2013 16:57 ScarPe wrote: i dont know why you even try to write sth like that. a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt.
it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts.
his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore. There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy. but i dont like them. TLO and Life are just boring, Scarlett is some1 without any personality at all.
Life as a boring player? What am I reading?!? Are you talking strictly personality or playstyle here? It's a given we won't hear much of Life's personality since his english is poor.
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On March 30 2013 21:12 Weirdkid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 21:04 NVRLand wrote: This might be slightly off-topic but I've always wondered if progamers would put their sc2 career on their CV when they apply for jobs? On one hand it is your job and should obv. be put there but on the other hand the employer might find it... unserious? "So.. you've been at your computer for 8h a day for 2 years?" To which you could talk about the discipline required to keep improving, the desire for excellence, the never-say-die attitude, etc., which are all pretty good character traits for a working person. Of course there're employers who'd write you off immediately, but for employers who are less bias and willing to give you a chance to talk about it, it's a lot about how you present it 
You put it on your resume for those reasons. Most people would be EXTREMELY interested in your story if you say "i made over 100k playing video games and travelled the world".
Also to people saying "I'm not going to watch sc2 anymore Stephano is gone"....grow up plz, don't cry about it. I'm sure in 6 months you will be a fanboy of another player..
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Nooo dont leave
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On March 30 2013 23:28 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 21:12 Weirdkid wrote:On March 30 2013 21:04 NVRLand wrote: This might be slightly off-topic but I've always wondered if progamers would put their sc2 career on their CV when they apply for jobs? On one hand it is your job and should obv. be put there but on the other hand the employer might find it... unserious? "So.. you've been at your computer for 8h a day for 2 years?" To which you could talk about the discipline required to keep improving, the desire for excellence, the never-say-die attitude, etc., which are all pretty good character traits for a working person. Of course there're employers who'd write you off immediately, but for employers who are less bias and willing to give you a chance to talk about it, it's a lot about how you present it  You put it on your resume for those reasons. Most people would be EXTREMELY interested in your story if you say "i made over 100k playing video games and travelled the world". Also to people saying "I'm not going to watch sc2 anymore Stephano is gone"....grow up plz, don't cry about it. I'm sure in 6 months you will be a fanboy of another player..
And know knows how he feels in 6 months. I really love his honesty about why he likes playing and winning, rather than the standard "I want to be the best and beat the best". Even players of professional sports love the game they are playing and when they don't love it, they do worse or leave. I hope he sticks around until the end of the year at least, but moving on is important.
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On March 30 2013 03:19 FrogOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2013 02:54 Snoodles wrote: I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up. Man up and do something he doesn't enjoy ... because?
He should man up now because it will take him several years of grueling, long hours to make the amount of money he made last year. Should he still go to med school? Yes. Is he capable? Yes, but what about now? The least he should do is realize that he's a 19-20 year old making 6 figures, and instead of telling his BOSS "no thanks, I don't want to do what you're asking me to do", he should put in his 100%. He's part of a fucking team and he's telling his boss and his team to get along without him, for no consequence to him. It's not fair to the others.
Also,while I'm ranting, it's mistaken to assume he's going to start sweeping foreign tournament after foreign tournament if the skill ceiling is anything like the last MLG. frankly, it was harder than any tournament he won and built his fame on. He was an excellent ZvP and ZvTer, but his ZvZ was never better than Scarlett, Vortix, Nerchio, and other top foreign zergs. Now Zerg is weak and there are twice as many korean pros running around. It's just sad to see all the fans thinking he's going to go hide in his cave and ingeniously figure out Zerg rather than really just fizzle out and ride the salary of past fame.
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boring to watch...but thanks for sharing with us
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On March 29 2013 23:29 Emix_Squall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 23:01 o29 wrote: It seems that his "too cool" attitude prevents him from being passionate about anything other than his inevitable departure from the scene. That's actually one of the few videos where he didn't play that part IMO ... ) Can't say I totally agree there, he still seemed the same he's always been. As much as he's been playing, practicing and traveling, he's never really seemed invested in the scene. Whether you want to justify that type of attitude or not is up to you, but most fan bases don't take to that. In any sport, there is always a talented individual that doesn't fully commit and it generally infuriates fans more than not.
Some fans will approach it with open arms, seeing things from a different perspective, different from the norm. And then there are the fans that hope to see what could be accomplished if that talent was alongside the true passion other players show for their sport/game.
The "it's just a game" attitude is somewhat detrimental in ways.
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