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That was rather poignant, especially for an e-sports video.
Many thanks, lectR.
It's also impressive to me how down-to-earth Stephano is. He seems to take all the pomp of being a major sc2 powerhouse with a grain of salt, realizing it's a huge achievement, but exists within the context of life, which is much, much larger.
Godspeed.
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On March 29 2013 23:13 Gackt_ wrote: This is just silly. To be frank, it's bullshit.
Which part? the video? or the fact that Stephano decides to quit?
I think he is very brave to realize what does not work for him anymore and to decide to move on.
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The only foreigner that stands a chance vs Koreans in macro games imo. From a spectator/supporter point of view I don't understand his choice. But I guess it makes sense taking in the whole picture: the investment in a decent education is probably +EV over continuing his Progaming career in the long run.
Now we will have to turn ourselves to gimmicky protoss players to pick off maps off of Koreans /cry
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Yeh, I can see where he is coming from. I personally think it would be horrible to be forced to play this game 12 hours and watch something that you once loved become something that you now hate...
I don't know how the koreans manage it to be stuffed up in a room with 15 other people doing the same thing all day every day for years. I know koreans made SC what it is but the korean method seems to be Take something that is fun, Take all the fun out of it, Practice 12 Hours a day, Remove all other enjoyable things from your life and even give up on things that humans need (e.g. Fresh Air, Female Contact, FREEDOM ect ect ect) and this undeniably will lead down the road of depression. I just wish that there was another way for someone who wants to play this great game professionally, but unfortunately, there is not.
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Korea makes people depressed? thats sad.
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So what keeps Korean pros that are winning everything motivated? I'm thinking back to BW.
I'm sure there must be some balance.
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Watching him get absolutely wrecked by Code B player Shuttle over and over on stream now on the NA server... His time might really be over.
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This video made me really sad. It seems like the EG curse exists not as a superstitious type of thing but more of a "ok I have money and safety now so I don't really need to be number 1" kind of thing. I feel like for some people being on a (presumably) high paying team lowers motivation.
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I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up.
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I empathize with Stephano, I've been in a situation where I wasn't able to talk to anyone 'cause of a language barrier for 1 week and it felt like an eternity. GL w/ whatever he does.
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On March 29 2013 06:47 Nachtwind wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 06:24 oOOoOphidian wrote:On March 29 2013 06:06 Nachtwind wrote:On March 29 2013 05:48 SoOJuuu wrote: Smartest player on EG.
Education always trumps any video game "career"
No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. Ya he should do his education get a good job make a family and die. It's almost like you don't realize he said he doesn't enjoy progaming in SC2 now. He would only be continuing it for money or fame, how is that better than pursuing other passions that can make him successful and happy long term? -Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. What i read-Education always trumps any silly dream. No one actually knows how your silly dreams end. It´s silly to not obey to the society. Now read my response again then tell me if i´m talking about steph.
First of all, as Stephano said, gaming is not his dream anymore, so dont know why he should keep going in that direction.
Second, yeah, go ahead and try to reach your dreams... if they're reasonable. I dream of doing ski all winter long and bike all summer long. I discovered that when I was past 25. I'll never make money out of it, i'm not good enough to get in prestigious and well paid enough schools and become a teacher. Should i go skiing all winter and riding my bike all summer? What's gona pay the bill? lol...
Then you could say i'm obeying the society. I'd rather say i'm being reasonable and i'm trying to find satisfaction in other sutff that I can reach atm
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On March 30 2013 02:54 Snoodles wrote: I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up.
Man up and do something he doesn't enjoy ... because? And your assumption that he can't deal with any kind of hard work is something you totally pulled out of your ass. Speaking of which, "medical school and residency" isn't a profession.
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Respect the guy, for sure. "Its good thing to know when to stop" Amen.
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On March 29 2013 23:29 Emix_Squall wrote:A "kind of" human moment from Stephano. That's pretty rare and appreciable. Good to see he's still sharp and has a good understanding of the world he lives in! Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 23:01 o29 wrote: It seems that his "too cool" attitude prevents him from being passionate about anything other than his inevitable departure from the scene. That's actually one of the few videos where he didn't play that part IMO ... he's showing lucidity that's what people don't like ... It's always annoying to see a smart person who's conscious about it and doesn't act with fake modesty (eventhough a bit more modesty [not faked] would not hurt him)
That heart-felt honesty might have been due to the music though. Not that he wasn't honest, but with Stephano I always have the feeling that emotionally he's in another place. Still, his decision deserves everyone's respect. He invested a lot into pro gaming and the scene owes a lot to him, whatever his attitudes towards it. The latter was that of a bulldozer-- a tad undiplomatic at times. But both his great performances as well as his sobriety about pro gaming should give pause to think about what's going on with the Starcraft scene. We all tend to be a little naïve about it sometimes. And that's the genuine "human moment" here, I think.
On March 30 2013 02:54 Snoodles wrote: I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up.
It's not just about money and effort. Gaming does not seem very meaningful to him anymore. Practicing medicine can certainly provide that (although it can also be frustrating of course, depending on where you practice it).
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Just finally got to watching this. I hope he can see enough success in the next 6 months to stay in the scene longer or at least find fun in playing the game again. He has done so much for the scene and even though I cheer against him he is an amazing player that I would never want to see leave.
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Much respect to Stephano for being so upfront about his intentions. I wonder how many other progamers who are struggling with results are feeling the same...
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Nicely done interview. Sincerely enjoyed it. A bit bummed about the news but it happens, and education is always a good priority.
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On March 29 2013 22:43 shifty wrote: history repeating itself, he said this a year ago He said he would stop playing if he stopped winning as much as he wanted to. In that time, he ended up winning quite a bit. I'm certain SC2 was still fun for him back then, but he did not want to pursue it if it did not provide enough for him to live off of financially.
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On March 29 2013 07:31 johnny123 wrote: i call rubbish on this retirement, Stephano barely practices, which shows a lack of work ethic. If he thinks hes going to make even close to what he made as a pro-gamer he is sorely mistaken . He is going to have to study his ass off to make basically minimum wage as a nurse. He might easily fool you guys, but at this point im already expecting to hear the next news title "stephano signs for another year with EG". You wait and see folks, he will be continued to be salaried for EG till sc2 is dead, then he will go into Warcraft 4 which is obviously blizzards next big esport . After that he will get another 4 -5 years of esport life. It doesnt matter if he thinks the game is fun or not. No work unless you are a pilot is fun.
Dont ever listen to what young kids say, their minds change constantly.
I disagree. I look forward to going to my job, as well as my classes. Work is only boring, if you want it to be.
And I can assure you, I am not a pilot.
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On March 30 2013 02:17 Zystra wrote: Yeh, I can see where he is coming from. I personally think it would be horrible to be forced to play this game 12 hours and watch something that you once loved become something that you now hate...
I don't know how the koreans manage it to be stuffed up in a room with 15 other people doing the same thing all day every day for years. I know koreans made SC what it is but the korean method seems to be Take something that is fun, Take all the fun out of it, Practice 12 Hours a day, Remove all other enjoyable things from your life and even give up on things that humans need (e.g. Fresh Air, Female Contact, FREEDOM ect ect ect) and this undeniably will lead down the road of depression. I just wish that there was another way for someone who wants to play this great game professionally, but unfortunately, there is not.
To genuinely be the BEST at anything that's the sacrifice it takes. You can have all the fresh air, female contact and freedom when you are standing on the skulls of your defeated foes.
Sadly not a lot of people except the Koreans seem to realize this, there is no "easy way".
I can respect his decision to stop as he clearly does not have the right self-determination/motivation to do it; a shame since he clearly has the talent.
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