EPT"My Time" - Mini-documentary on EG.Stephano
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EG.lectR
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Enjoyed the documentary, good way to portray your players to be both personal and with a good mix of captured moments in public. | ||
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VoAchilles
United States82 Posts
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
I respect this man so incredibly much. | ||
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VelRa_G
Canada304 Posts
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Thalandros
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Teodice
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MrMedic
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Firlefanz
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GunSec
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Zenbrez
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Good interview though | ||
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figq
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Valon
United States329 Posts
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Riquiz
Netherlands402 Posts
I hope you make the correct decision stephano ! You'll be missed for sure. | ||
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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phipsL
Germany189 Posts
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Master of DalK
Canada1797 Posts
Hopefully he decides to change his mind, as he would be missed a lot if he does retire D= I respect his choice either way. Stephano hwaiting~! | ||
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Eggi
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Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. | ||
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Demicore
France503 Posts
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Zygno
Austria276 Posts
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WikidSik
Canada382 Posts
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
he's going to retire noooooooooooo!!!! | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
I hope to see him winning a big tournament before he retires. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5594 Posts
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On March 29 2013 05:48 SoOJuuu wrote: Smartest player on EG. Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. Ya he should do his education get a good job make a family and die. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:06 Nachtwind wrote: Ya he should do his education get a good job make a family and die. Sounds a lot better than having to play a game 12 hours a day to be the best and make way less than someone working a stable job. | ||
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:08 Megaliskuu wrote: Sounds a lot better than having to play a game 12 hours a day to be the best and make way less than someone working a stable job. You got the point. edit:Wait.. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
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XaMaXaM
Germany113 Posts
If Stephano´s target is to be happy in his life this is the announcement of his retiring. I doubt it cause he gets a huge amount of money even when he would be just playing like Idra. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3675 Posts
On March 29 2013 05:48 SoOJuuu wrote: Smartest player on EG. Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. If every pro gamer would have stephano's attitude our scene would be really close to dead in a few years, so let's not call that being the smartest... Really nice piece of content, personally I don't mind him retiring as I was never a huge fan of his play. | ||
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partydude89
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Kyir
United States1047 Posts
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Azelja
Japan762 Posts
Also to the people that are like "smart, education is always better than that silly stuff"... That heavily depends on what you wanna do with your life. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2084 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:14 Lorch wrote: If every pro gamer would have stephano's attitude our scene would be really close to dead in a few years, so let's not call that being the smartest... Really nice piece of content, personally I don't mind him retiring as I was never a huge fan of his play. most people do have his attitude, that's why pros are only around for a few years unless you're like Flash or Jaedong but that's another ball game | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:06 Nachtwind wrote: Ya he should do his education get a good job make a family and die. It's almost like you don't realize he said he doesn't enjoy progaming in SC2 now. He would only be continuing it for money or fame, how is that better than pursuing other passions that can make him successful and happy long term? | ||
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GenghisKhan
United Kingdom68 Posts
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
( Sorry but they need to add caption to the vid please | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:17 Azelja wrote: Also to the people that are like "smart, education is always better than that silly stuff"... That heavily depends on what you wanna do with your life. That people posting something like this on this site exist is pretty ironic. But it must be written in the 1o1 book of trolling as it can trigger quiet funny reactions. | ||
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Chronos.
United States805 Posts
He should just go get his education and stay on EG as a start figure while playing casually. Or maybe retire temporarily while he gets his education, and then come back afterwards if there is still room for him in the scene (that way he'll be able to get a solid job after he "retires" 2nd time from esports. But man, he was seriously my favorite player to watch in tournaments and on stream. I'll be so sad to see him go =\ | ||
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
Peace yo, thx for the games. | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
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DenTenker
United States606 Posts
Thanks for this documentary! It's great! | ||
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:24 oOOoOphidian wrote: It's almost like you don't realize he said he doesn't enjoy progaming in SC2 now. He would only be continuing it for money or fame, how is that better than pursuing other passions that can make him successful and happy long term? -Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. What i read -Education always trumps any silly dream. No one actually knows how your silly dreams end. It´s silly to not obey to the society. Now read my response again then tell me if i´m talking about steph. | ||
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une_certaine_verve
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algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
Love ya brah! | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
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will216
United States185 Posts
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MagnuMizer
Denmark384 Posts
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johnny123
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Dont ever listen to what young kids say, their minds change constantly. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
On March 29 2013 07:33 Undead1993 wrote: well even if he cancels his participation in esports i would still follow him on twitter, what a man, what memories, what an entertainer. We will miss you here, but you have to win a lot in these 6 months! :') i just wish him a lot lots of lot of fun, beer and bi**** while besides owning some nice price pools. The steph way of life. ^^ | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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A.Alm
Sweden511 Posts
On March 29 2013 07:31 johnny123 wrote: i call rubbish on this retirement, Stephano barely practices, which shows a lack of work ethic. If he thinks hes going to make even close to what he made as a pro-gamer he is sorely mistaken . He is going to have to study his ass off to make basically minimum wage as a nurse. He might easily fool you guys, but at this point im already expecting to hear the next news title "stephano signs for another year with EG". You wait and see folks, he will be continued to be salaried for EG till sc2 is dead, then he will go into Warcraft 4 which is obviously blizzards next big esport . After that he will get another 4 -5 years of esport life. It doesnt matter if he thinks the game is fun or not. No work unless you are a pilot is fun. Dont ever listen to what young kids say, their minds change constantly. Wise words. You can go through uni without studying a lot though | ||
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Germany4057 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On March 29 2013 07:52 Nachtwind wrote: i just wish him a lot lots of lot of fun, beer and bi**** while besides owning some nice price pools. The steph way of life. ^^ he said fun is now to win things not to enjoy the game, so i guess we both wish him "fun" | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:03 Targe wrote: Good luck to him, I'm personally not a fan just due to some of his fanboys, but he's a pretty good Zerg. "i personally not a fan due to something totally unrelated from his personality or games" makes sense @_@ | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On March 29 2013 07:31 johnny123 wrote: i call rubbish on this retirement, Stephano barely practices, which shows a lack of work ethic. If he thinks hes going to make even close to what he made as a pro-gamer he is sorely mistaken . He is going to have to study his ass off to make basically minimum wage as a nurse. He might easily fool you guys, but at this point im already expecting to hear the next news title "stephano signs for another year with EG". You wait and see folks, he will be continued to be salaried for EG till sc2 is dead, then he will go into Warcraft 4 which is obviously blizzards next big esport . After that he will get another 4 -5 years of esport life. It doesnt matter if he thinks the game is fun or not. No work unless you are a pilot is fun. Dont ever listen to what young kids say, their minds change constantly. how is anyone still believing his nonsense statement of "barely practising" lol. If anyone believed that they are delusional, it was just his way of subtle bragging. He wanted people to think he was so good despite his "lack of practise" when in truth he practised just as much if not more than the people he was beating. Can we stop the naievity regarding this statement he made, with a smirk all of those months ago? And Uni is easy (at least in Murica...) I spent literally less than an hour a week on homework/studying throughout entire uni career. Maybe med school will be difficult, but again, people who play this game professionally tend to be above-average when it comes to intelligence so I doubt he will be straining too hard. (Suppy is pre-med and a Pro-SC2 player concurrently) Like i Laugh at slacker friends "man i dont have any free time" when they take bare minimum class count to be considered "full time" and work a max of 12 hours a week.... im sorry but your free time will literally get cut in HALF or greater once you start your career. Will agree that actual careers generally suck. (granted there are fun ones..but they generally pay less..because people will often sacrfice a larger salaray for the pursuit of a fun career- there is a reason being a Zoo Keeper with a masters in biology pays less than being a manager at McDonalds) But i give GIANT respect for a player who says "Id rather be done, than accept a paycheck because i call myself a SC2 pro" like seriously there are soooooooooooooooooo many SC2 "professionals" accepting a salary (no matter how small) just because they spend 20 hours a week playing SC2...and literally dont win a single event/tournament. Also, when do nurses make minimum wage? where do you live? 0.o. meh i try not to argue on these forums anymore so ill finish with... Mad respect for someone who would rather go out when he realizes he wont win nearly as much due to his lack of effort, rather than collect a check to simply hang out and play SC2, never being competitive or having an actual shot at winning anything. Rather than calling yourself a "Professional gamer" because you make 10,000 a year streaming to 1-800 people...and never attending any actual events. | ||
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Eggi
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But at the end of the day its a video game. We still live in a society that doesn't accept "pro gaming" to be valuable on a resume. I feel like pro gaming is good to about the age 23(with 0 post secondary education) Unless your making enough to have 1million saved in 10 years, even then its questionable. Sure you can go back to school at any age, but it gets harder every year that passes by. Try doing high level math after youve done a labor(which sc2 is in some sense) job for 10 years. I would really like it if EG would make their players take atleast 1-2 courses a semester to ATLEAST let them have some kind of backout plan. It would also help the scene by showing that gamers are educated. Not everyone has a cinderalla story like idra, stephano or incontrol. Strifeco? Has to play poker to make ends meet, why? Well he didnt really have a back out plan. What about those people that took a year off+ to be a pro-gamer I saw on reddit in WoL.Where are they now? Back to school or back to work. Im not saying don't chase your dreams, but chase them in caution. And when you see your dream a) doesnt make you happy or b) its not worth the investement Leave. You ought to invest your time into something that will make you that much in your future. Our society is all about perception. | ||
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BoB_KiLLeR
Spain620 Posts
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:47 Nachtwind wrote: What i read -Education always trumps any silly dream. No one actually knows how your silly dreams end. It´s silly to not obey to the society. Now read my response again then tell me if i´m talking about steph. Shh. Do not say such things to anybody, you will offend them  . | ||
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Champi
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:27 Za7oX wrote: Not sure why he wouldn't want to continue traveling the world being a pro gamer and then just pick up his studies later on Because he doesn't enjoy the game. If I was him personally, I would still suck it up. He is still young and can go along playing this game for awhile and making good bank the whole time. Can always go to school later. Not to mention he doesn't like the korean training regiment, which is kind of a problem if you want to actually train over here and play in GSL and GSTL. Quite sad though as he has a lot of talent for Starcraft and could go toe to toe with the koreans if he really put his head down and put in the hours. Korea is so much harder than the rest of us give him and other foreigners credit for. Not everyone can handle the huge cultural change they have over there while not even understanding the language. It can be a pretty lonely road I imagine.. Hope the best for Stephano in the future whenever he does retire. | ||
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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Dagan159
United States203 Posts
Good luck stephano, I know you will do well in whatever you choose to do. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
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Mortal
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TigerKarl
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Stephano is smart to realize that he's not going to win, without enjoying playing. Becoming a doctor is a promising career choice, so good luck to the unquestionably best foreign player there has been in SC2 yet. Cheers for making the scene brighter with a colorful personality. This is the decision that former star player IdrA could never make, due to his growing lack of maturity and a lack of perspective, because he chose this path and now has to stick to a game that he despises, which keeps transforming him into a obnoxious personality. So again, best of luck to Stephano, knowing when to quit is a good feat to have. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Nice music selection, and best of luck to him going forward. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:29 Za7oX wrote: "i personally not a fan due to something totally unrelated from his personality or games" makes sense @_@ Is that really so hard to understand? When the fans are so obnoxious you just want to see the person in question losing so his fans shut up. | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
Does anybody know the song? | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:47 Nachtwind wrote: -Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. What i read -Education always trumps any silly dream. No one actually knows how your silly dreams end. It´s silly to not obey to the society. Now read my response again then tell me if i´m talking about steph. People get irritated by guys who decide on their own how to live instead of it being decided by society and tradition. Maybe they're too lazy or too afraid of the possible consequences. | ||
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Chillaxing
United States20 Posts
Good Luck in studying in school! | ||
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chawinski
Australia98 Posts
Throughout this interview i just kept thinking of Flash's interview. The contrast is striking and i just wonder how far he could have gone if he had Flash's mindset toward winning and practise. | ||
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ETisME
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I am really proud of seeing his career from start and all the way ever since. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:10 A.Alm wrote: Wise words. You can go through uni without studying a lot though Pretty sure you can't if you are going into medcenter  . | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
On March 29 2013 11:29 blade55555 wrote: Pretty sure you can't if you are going into medcenter .If you are in meds or engineering i don't think you can. | ||
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n0ah
United States250 Posts
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DreamKiller
United States15 Posts
Made me sad to hear he is retiring soon, but I wish him well in school and life. | ||
Waxangel
United States33330 Posts
Additionally, I thought the music was so bad it was funny during the early parts where he was talking about the game, but it was pretty good in a schmaltzy way once he started talking about his personal motivations in the second half. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On March 29 2013 10:54 Assirra wrote: Is that really so hard to understand? When the fans are so obnoxious you just want to see the person in question losing so his fans shut up. Yeah, same with Destiny. When I watch Destiny (once for 5 minutes every few months), I remind myself that he's actually a pretty decent person, and I don't mind listening to him. But after that, I go back to disliking him because his fans make me think he's a cult leader or some shit. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Rorra
Australia1066 Posts
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
I'll miss him | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
When he started he said he would be doing this only for money and for a couple of years, and it was fun for him. Take the money dude go back in school in 6 months and move on. Easily the mot succesful foreigner around so far, and perhaps the best to. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:29 Za7oX wrote: "i personally not a fan due to something totally unrelated from his personality or games" makes sense @_@ I like him, but find his fans so unbelievably annoying that I don't follow him, cause everywhere he goes, they are. I've also got marineking, fantasy and bogus to follow, aint got time for no Zerg ^^ | ||
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hyuu
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... God EG ... What have you done | ||
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lost_artz
United States366 Posts
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Opera
France469 Posts
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SmoKKeY
United States55 Posts
On March 29 2013 05:48 SoOJuuu wrote: Smartest player on EG. Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. Truth. There's some brutal honesty in the video. best of luck to you stephano for the last 6 months/longer if you decide to play. | ||
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Sc2Wrath
United Kingdom58 Posts
I can honestly say I will miss him greatly if he quits. What ever he does though, is the right decision. You don't, ever, want a career you don't enjoy, and I respect him for wanting to quit for something else he wants, if he isn't enjoying SC2 anymore. Let's just hope for the best, Good luck Stephano!!! | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On March 29 2013 20:10 Opera wrote: Finally he admits he pratices insane amount of time I think when he said "the result of months of practice", he meant that this is the result of only a few months of practice, because he's talented, he doesn't need to play the game that much, blablabla. | ||
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SChlafmann
France725 Posts
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
This man was the last spark of hope for the foreigner scene. The cap from him to the next was very large! None else has done what he has consistently! Not only that, he was a very entertaining personality too! As a zerg player he was incredibly inspirational! I understand his decision though - taking an education is the most fun and awesome thing I have ever done personally! It's the best Best of luck to him! Hope he crushes some Koreans on the way out | ||
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
I really don't think he's going to retire just yet. He'll probably see what happens at the next few MLGs and Dreamhacks. I definitely don't see him fading quietly from tournament results then retiring, if he stops being able to compete at the level he wants he'll just peace out, but I think he'll be able to have a bounce back this year once his mindset post-Korea resets a little bit. ♥ Stephano. I would really like to see him pull off some of his trademark nonchalant badassery again. | ||
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canSore
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On March 29 2013 21:55 canSore wrote: you won't be missed! you got a typo there | ||
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Bam Lee
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shifty
United States280 Posts
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o29
United States220 Posts
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Gackt_
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Emix_Squall
France705 Posts
Good to see he's still sharp and has a good understanding of the world he lives in! On March 29 2013 23:01 o29 wrote: It seems that his "too cool" attitude prevents him from being passionate about anything other than his inevitable departure from the scene. That's actually one of the few videos where he didn't play that part IMO ... he's showing lucidity that's what people don't like ... It's always annoying to see a smart person who's conscious about it and doesn't act with fake modesty (eventhough a bit more modesty [not faked] would not hurt him) | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 29 2013 19:56 hyuu wrote: Forcing stephano to stay in korea was a good idea ... God EG ... What have you done 1. It's his job, he will do whatever EG tells him to do. 2. He's always said he was going to retire as soon as he stops making money. | ||
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TheVoicedElk
United Kingdom28 Posts
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KingofGods
Canada1218 Posts
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tili
United States1332 Posts
Many thanks, lectR. It's also impressive to me how down-to-earth Stephano is. He seems to take all the pomp of being a major sc2 powerhouse with a grain of salt, realizing it's a huge achievement, but exists within the context of life, which is much, much larger. Godspeed. | ||
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lhr0909
United States562 Posts
On March 29 2013 23:13 Gackt_ wrote: This is just silly. To be frank, it's bullshit. Which part? the video? or the fact that Stephano decides to quit? I think he is very brave to realize what does not work for him anymore and to decide to move on. | ||
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Prox
Netherlands174 Posts
Now we will have to turn ourselves to gimmicky protoss players to pick off maps off of Koreans /cry | ||
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Zystra
United Kingdom79 Posts
I don't know how the koreans manage it to be stuffed up in a room with 15 other people doing the same thing all day every day for years. I know koreans made SC what it is but the korean method seems to be Take something that is fun, Take all the fun out of it, Practice 12 Hours a day, Remove all other enjoyable things from your life and even give up on things that humans need (e.g. Fresh Air, Female Contact, FREEDOM ect ect ect) and this undeniably will lead down the road of depression. I just wish that there was another way for someone who wants to play this great game professionally, but unfortunately, there is not. | ||
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habeck
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Thrill
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I'm sure there must be some balance. | ||
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sitromit
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Ruin
United States271 Posts
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Snoodles
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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Natalya
Belgium287 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:47 Nachtwind wrote: -Education always trumps any video game "career" No one actually known the future of esports. It would be bad to be left hanging in 5 years. What i read -Education always trumps any silly dream. No one actually knows how your silly dreams end. It´s silly to not obey to the society. Now read my response again then tell me if i´m talking about steph. First of all, as Stephano said, gaming is not his dream anymore, so dont know why he should keep going in that direction. Second, yeah, go ahead and try to reach your dreams... if they're reasonable. I dream of doing ski all winter long and bike all summer long. I discovered that when I was past 25. I'll never make money out of it, i'm not good enough to get in prestigious and well paid enough schools and become a teacher. Should i go skiing all winter and riding my bike all summer? What's gona pay the bill? lol... Then you could say i'm obeying the society. I'd rather say i'm being reasonable and i'm trying to find satisfaction in other sutff that I can reach atm | ||
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
On March 30 2013 02:54 Snoodles wrote: I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up. Man up and do something he doesn't enjoy ... because? And your assumption that he can't deal with any kind of hard work is something you totally pulled out of your ass. Speaking of which, "medical school and residency" isn't a profession. | ||
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Grettin
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DonkeyShot
Germany63 Posts
On March 29 2013 23:29 Emix_Squall wrote: A "kind of" human moment from Stephano. That's pretty rare and appreciable. Good to see he's still sharp and has a good understanding of the world he lives in! That's actually one of the few videos where he didn't play that part IMO ... he's showing lucidity that's what people don't like ... It's always annoying to see a smart person who's conscious about it and doesn't act with fake modesty (eventhough a bit more modesty [not faked] would not hurt him) That heart-felt honesty might have been due to the music though. Not that he wasn't honest, but with Stephano I always have the feeling that emotionally he's in another place. Still, his decision deserves everyone's respect. He invested a lot into pro gaming and the scene owes a lot to him, whatever his attitudes towards it. The latter was that of a bulldozer-- a tad undiplomatic at times. But both his great performances as well as his sobriety about pro gaming should give pause to think about what's going on with the Starcraft scene. We all tend to be a little naïve about it sometimes. And that's the genuine "human moment" here, I think. On March 30 2013 02:54 Snoodles wrote: I don't know too much about this guy, but if he hates long practice sessions and being in the same place training for months, why does he want to be a doctor? Isn't medical school and residency one of the most demanding professions? I have a cousin that's a doctor and the stories she tells me seem a lot more difficult than getting paid a 6 figure income to travel around the world and play a video game. Maybe it's different in Europe, but med school students and residents in the states work their asses off, 60-80 hours a week, or 24-48 hour shifts. He should just man up. It's not just about money and effort. Gaming does not seem very meaningful to him anymore. Practicing medicine can certainly provide that (although it can also be frustrating of course, depending on where you practice it). | ||
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Comogury
United States412 Posts
On March 29 2013 22:43 shifty wrote: history repeating itself, he said this a year ago He said he would stop playing if he stopped winning as much as he wanted to. In that time, he ended up winning quite a bit. I'm certain SC2 was still fun for him back then, but he did not want to pursue it if it did not provide enough for him to live off of financially. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On March 29 2013 07:31 johnny123 wrote: i call rubbish on this retirement, Stephano barely practices, which shows a lack of work ethic. If he thinks hes going to make even close to what he made as a pro-gamer he is sorely mistaken . He is going to have to study his ass off to make basically minimum wage as a nurse. He might easily fool you guys, but at this point im already expecting to hear the next news title "stephano signs for another year with EG". You wait and see folks, he will be continued to be salaried for EG till sc2 is dead, then he will go into Warcraft 4 which is obviously blizzards next big esport . After that he will get another 4 -5 years of esport life. It doesnt matter if he thinks the game is fun or not. No work unless you are a pilot is fun. Dont ever listen to what young kids say, their minds change constantly. I disagree. I look forward to going to my job, as well as my classes. Work is only boring, if you want it to be. And I can assure you, I am not a pilot. | ||
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GaNgStaRR.ElV
Canada535 Posts
On March 30 2013 02:17 Zystra wrote: Yeh, I can see where he is coming from. I personally think it would be horrible to be forced to play this game 12 hours and watch something that you once loved become something that you now hate... I don't know how the koreans manage it to be stuffed up in a room with 15 other people doing the same thing all day every day for years. I know koreans made SC what it is but the korean method seems to be Take something that is fun, Take all the fun out of it, Practice 12 Hours a day, Remove all other enjoyable things from your life and even give up on things that humans need (e.g. Fresh Air, Female Contact, FREEDOM ect ect ect) and this undeniably will lead down the road of depression. I just wish that there was another way for someone who wants to play this great game professionally, but unfortunately, there is not. To genuinely be the BEST at anything that's the sacrifice it takes. You can have all the fresh air, female contact and freedom when you are standing on the skulls of your defeated foes. Sadly not a lot of people except the Koreans seem to realize this, there is no "easy way". I can respect his decision to stop as he clearly does not have the right self-determination/motivation to do it; a shame since he clearly has the talent. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 30 2013 03:19 FrogOfWar wrote: Man up and do something he doesn't enjoy ... because? And your assumption that he can't deal with any kind of hard work is something you totally pulled out of your ass. Speaking of which, "medical school and residency" isn't a profession. Because...he gets payed for it? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
People should enjoy their jobs and if you don't like living in a place, don't live there. Stephano is very frank when he says that he does not care about Korea(I know people on TL will be shocked by this) and cares way more about winning back home. I am not really surprised. Medical school is hard and eats up a lot of your like. If Stephano was in Korea saying "I think I would be happier back home in medical school," I fully trust his judgment that it is time for him to go back home. I know people on TL are obsessed with beating Koreans, but making yourself miserable to win a championship that 10 years from now no one you know will ever have heard of(aka, when he is a doctor) is just not worth it. | ||
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ScarPe
Germany392 Posts
a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt. it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts. his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore. | ||
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SCRaining
Canada7 Posts
On March 30 2013 16:57 ScarPe wrote: i dont know why you even try to write sth like that. a progamer career is LIMITED, while the career of a doctor isnt. it was fun for stephano to get payed for playing a game that he loves, but as the fun fades, he sees no reason to stay. he made enough money to concentrate on his studies, so whats your guys problem with it? its not a question of efforts. his games are the only ones i am still watching. so there wnt be a reason to watch sc2 for me anymore. There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy. | ||
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Chewie
Denmark708 Posts
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NVRLand
Sweden203 Posts
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Kuni
Austria765 Posts
On March 30 2013 20:59 SCRaining wrote: There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy. But none with the same magic :-) | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On March 30 2013 21:04 NVRLand wrote: This might be slightly off-topic but I've always wondered if progamers would put their sc2 career on their CV when they apply for jobs? On one hand it is your job and should obv. be put there but on the other hand the employer might find it... unserious? "So.. you've been at your computer for 8h a day for 2 years?" As always in life, depending on where you want to apply. In stephano's terms I would ALWAYS put it on there, you can just crush any uncertainty if that was a good thing by presenting them the cumulated winnings of his 2 years carrer. As for a player like Machine, I wouldnt recommend it too much | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On March 30 2013 21:04 NVRLand wrote: This might be slightly off-topic but I've always wondered if progamers would put their sc2 career on their CV when they apply for jobs? On one hand it is your job and should obv. be put there but on the other hand the employer might find it... unserious? "So.. you've been at your computer for 8h a day for 2 years?" To which you could talk about the discipline required to keep improving, the desire for excellence, the never-say-die attitude, etc., which are all pretty good character traits for a working person. Of course there're employers who'd write you off immediately, but for employers who are less bias and willing to give you a chance to talk about it, it's a lot about how you present it | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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ScarPe
Germany392 Posts
On March 30 2013 20:59 SCRaining wrote: There are still plenty of wonderful Zerg players out there silly. LiquidTLO, Life, Scarlett. Enjoy. but i dont like them. TLO and Life are just boring, Scarlett is some1 without any personality at all. | ||
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Swiipii
2195 Posts
On March 30 2013 21:54 ScarPe wrote: but i dont like them. TLO and Life are just boring, Scarlett is some1 without any personality at all. I am a big Stephano fan but Life is awesome sorry . Scarlett style was boring in Wol (mostly because of the metagame) but she's still a very very talented player . Sad that he wants to retire but can't blame him ! He has matured a lot and I think this video shows it perfectly . Nothing but respect gl Stephano . | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
On March 30 2013 21:54 ScarPe wrote: but i dont like them. TLO and Life are just boring, Scarlett is some1 without any personality at all. Life as a boring player? What am I reading?!? Are you talking strictly personality or playstyle here? It's a given we won't hear much of Life's personality since his english is poor. | ||
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GaNgStaRR.ElV
Canada535 Posts
On March 30 2013 21:12 Weirdkid wrote: To which you could talk about the discipline required to keep improving, the desire for excellence, the never-say-die attitude, etc., which are all pretty good character traits for a working person. Of course there're employers who'd write you off immediately, but for employers who are less bias and willing to give you a chance to talk about it, it's a lot about how you present it You put it on your resume for those reasons. Most people would be EXTREMELY interested in your story if you say "i made over 100k playing video games and travelled the world". Also to people saying "I'm not going to watch sc2 anymore Stephano is gone"....grow up plz, don't cry about it. I'm sure in 6 months you will be a fanboy of another player.. | ||
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Deadreckoning
Germany19 Posts
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 30 2013 23:28 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote: You put it on your resume for those reasons. Most people would be EXTREMELY interested in your story if you say "i made over 100k playing video games and travelled the world". Also to people saying "I'm not going to watch sc2 anymore Stephano is gone"....grow up plz, don't cry about it. I'm sure in 6 months you will be a fanboy of another player.. And know knows how he feels in 6 months. I really love his honesty about why he likes playing and winning, rather than the standard "I want to be the best and beat the best". Even players of professional sports love the game they are playing and when they don't love it, they do worse or leave. I hope he sticks around until the end of the year at least, but moving on is important. | ||
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Snoodles
401 Posts
On March 30 2013 03:19 FrogOfWar wrote: Man up and do something he doesn't enjoy ... because? He should man up now because it will take him several years of grueling, long hours to make the amount of money he made last year. Should he still go to med school? Yes. Is he capable? Yes, but what about now? The least he should do is realize that he's a 19-20 year old making 6 figures, and instead of telling his BOSS "no thanks, I don't want to do what you're asking me to do", he should put in his 100%. He's part of a fucking team and he's telling his boss and his team to get along without him, for no consequence to him. It's not fair to the others. Also,while I'm ranting, it's mistaken to assume he's going to start sweeping foreign tournament after foreign tournament if the skill ceiling is anything like the last MLG. frankly, it was harder than any tournament he won and built his fame on. He was an excellent ZvP and ZvTer, but his ZvZ was never better than Scarlett, Vortix, Nerchio, and other top foreign zergs. Now Zerg is weak and there are twice as many korean pros running around. It's just sad to see all the fans thinking he's going to go hide in his cave and ingeniously figure out Zerg rather than really just fizzle out and ride the salary of past fame. | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On March 29 2013 23:29 Emix_Squall wrote: That's actually one of the few videos where he didn't play that part IMO ... ) Can't say I totally agree there, he still seemed the same he's always been. As much as he's been playing, practicing and traveling, he's never really seemed invested in the scene. Whether you want to justify that type of attitude or not is up to you, but most fan bases don't take to that. In any sport, there is always a talented individual that doesn't fully commit and it generally infuriates fans more than not. Some fans will approach it with open arms, seeing things from a different perspective, different from the norm. And then there are the fans that hope to see what could be accomplished if that talent was alongside the true passion other players show for their sport/game. The "it's just a game" attitude is somewhat detrimental in ways. | ||
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HearthCraft
United States117 Posts
More players on EG; TL (not stephano) that have no future should step aside from the scene to let knew players in. Lets face it there are a number of players who haven't gotten results in years. And they probably never will again. Where i am from we call this dead weight. Stephano sees all these players not doing anything with their lives and says nah that's not for me when i burn out i'm gonna go back to school and start my life.. rather than sit there and rot inactively on a team. Good Luck Stephano whatever happens, never really was a fan but I always respected you in the scene. Gratz! | ||
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SupItsG
United States59 Posts
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Vespasian
Romania44 Posts
some would say a side effect of joining EG !But i would totaly agree , why do something that makes you unhappy , there are too many players that hate the game and don't play for fun at all and are really resentful and it s kina bad for them in the long run. Call me a heater but i think if he would still be in Mill he would not have retired in 6 months , all the traveling and living at the EG house and after that the bad Korea experience has taken it's tall. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:14 Lorch wrote: If every pro gamer would have stephano's attitude our scene would be really close to dead in a few years, so let's not call that being the smartest... Really nice piece of content, personally I don't mind him retiring as I was never a huge fan of his play. For him, it is smart. For Esports, it still could be smart. The best would continue to play, those that slump would move on with their life -- new people would appear. How many are in code b? | ||
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andreida
Romania18 Posts
On March 29 2013 10:54 Assirra wrote: Is that really so hard to understand? When the fans are so obnoxious you just want to see the person in question losing so his fans shut up. LOL,what are you 12?As a grown up this is the dumbets thing i've read in a long time. What Targe said is that in his life he will do and think what others think, or in base of what others think. | ||
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
On March 29 2013 07:31 johnny123 wrote: i call rubbish on this retirement, Stephano barely practices, which shows a lack of work ethic. If he thinks hes going to make even close to what he made as a pro-gamer he is sorely mistaken . He is going to have to study his ass off to make basically minimum wage as a nurse. He might easily fool you guys, but at this point im already expecting to hear the next news title "stephano signs for another year with EG". You wait and see folks, he will be continued to be salaried for EG till sc2 is dead, then he will go into Warcraft 4 which is obviously blizzards next big esport . After that he will get another 4 -5 years of esport life. It doesnt matter if he thinks the game is fun or not. No work unless you are a pilot is fun. Dont ever listen to what young kids say, their minds change constantly. Just because you are an unhappy depressed person doesn't mean everyone else is. Pretty much every job can be a very happy and motivating one if looked at from the right angle and if it resonates with who you are. It's about finding that job and knowing yourself and what you want, and to me it looks like Stephano knows what he wants (and he said it throughout all of his career that he considers stopping SC2 at any point to go into a medical career). And it seems to me he found out more about himself while he was in Korea, which in my mind is a positive thing (even if his stay in Korea wasn't a positive experience in itself). | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
On April 01 2013 22:13 MrJoKer wrote: He feel no more fun from playing SCII ? There is thousands and thousands of player who dream to play SCII for living. I dislike this attitude. What has thousands of other players go to do with Stephano? You make it sound like Stephano took the opportunities of others to get where he is. No, he's just much better than those other players. You think playing the same game 8+ hours a day is fun? | ||
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Resilient
United Kingdom1431 Posts
On April 01 2013 22:13 MrJoKer wrote: He feel no more fun from playing SCII ? There is thousands and thousands of player who dream to play SCII for living. I dislike this attitude. And that's why hes retiring. Would you dislike the attitude of hating the game but staying around for a paycheck anyway? I could name you a few people like that | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
All in all I'm sad that one of the greatest foreign players is leaving the scene while is still in his prime. It is probably all for the best though. | ||
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jdsowa
405 Posts
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Dingodile
4133 Posts
On April 01 2013 22:13 MrJoKer wrote: He feel no more fun from playing SCII ? There is thousands and thousands of player who dream to play SCII for living. I dislike this attitude. In sc2 I give you 2 months then you will hate sc2. From all rts games (wc, sc, cnc, stonghold, empire earth, etc) , sc2 has by far the shortest long-time fun. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3575 Posts
On March 31 2013 03:57 rQvicious wrote: Stephano, can play with the best, but if your not having fun why play? More players on EG; TL (not stephano) that have no future should step aside from the scene to let knew players in. Lets face it there are a number of players who haven't gotten results in years. And they probably never will again. Where i am from we call this dead weight. Stephano sees all these players not doing anything with their lives and says nah that's not for me when i burn out i'm gonna go back to school and start my life.. rather than sit there and rot inactively on a team. Good Luck Stephano whatever happens, never really was a fan but I always respected you in the scene. Gratz! Don't worry mate, I'm sure that eg knows a great deal more than you about running a team, and who pulls their weight for the team. If you feel you need to take the matter further: @evil geniuses, if you feel strongly about it | ||
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Endall
United States66 Posts
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
Success is built on dedication and stephano has no dedication to be good - not even great - just good, amongst the korean pros. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 01 2013 21:58 andreida wrote: LOL,what are you 12?As a grown up this is the dumbets thing i've read in a long time. What Targe said is that in his life he will do and think what others think, or in base of what others think. ”As a grown up" that can't spell dumbest... Before you try to act mature, at least make sure you don't do silly nonsense like that. | ||
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belatube
United States27 Posts
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
On April 01 2013 23:52 Assirra wrote: ”As a grown up" that can't spell dumbest... Before you try to act mature, at least make sure you don't do silly nonsense like that. What's more silly; mistyping a word where it's obvious what it is (dumbest / dumbets) or calling someone out for not being able to spell (forgetting that English isn't everyone's first language) and then somehow correlating that to maturity... Get a life... | ||
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Comogury
United States412 Posts
On April 01 2013 22:13 MrJoKer wrote: He feel no more fun from playing SCII ? There is thousands and thousands of player who dream to play SCII for living. I dislike this attitude. That is so stupid. If thousands and thousands of players dream to play SC2 for a living, why don't they do it? Stephano was one of those thousands of people before, but he took the initiative. The rhetoric makes no sense because he worked very hard to become one of the best players in the world. He just happened to be having fun at the same time. It's not fun for him right now so he rather focus on a stable future. He is more mature and aware of his position than other 20 year olds. Most are still in university or already at a dead end job not knowing what they want out of life. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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