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EG releases Ho Joon “PuMa” Lee - Page 26

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 15 2013 15:59 GMT
#501
On March 16 2013 00:52 QuantumChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 00:48 Plansix wrote:
On March 16 2013 00:27 derpface wrote:
Now I wonder who will go next, HuK or Machine or hopefully iNcontroL?


Keep hoping, its not going to happen. Incontrol provides a ton of value to EG though media presence, regardless of his results in events. And because of his media and community presence, other team members can focus on practice and events. EG has no reason to get rid of their front man when he is doing such a good job at it.



Not to mention Incontrol is semi-retired from pro play at this point and is focusing on his other strengths - commentating, event hosting etc. As well as being the team captain and the public face of EG. Alex would be retarded to drop Incontrol.


Exactly. And like Artosis, he will throw his hat into the an open bracket now and again because he loves to compete, which is super respectable. I wouldn’t be shocked if over the next year he also tried to learn from Coach Park on how to coach professional players and set up solid practice sessions. There is no reason not to try to export some of that magic to the EG lair.

There are a lot of places on a team that are important and need someone with Incontrol’s skill set.
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DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 16:14:03
March 15 2013 16:08 GMT
#502
It is a sound business move, the dude is not performing to his currently salary or wasn't bringing any exposure and marketability to the brand. Puma didn't agree to the pay cut and was release, I mean it happen all the time in professional sports. It will be pretty difficult for puma to look for teams that can even match his former salary or close to it but good luck.

Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 15 2013 16:10 GMT
#503
On March 16 2013 00:44 Jibba wrote:
It's interesting to see the way Nazgul talks about his current and former players, and the way Alex does it.

There's a difference in circumstance behind how the players are released from their respective teams. Liquid players opted to leave the game either to retire from the game completely or become team less.

Alex released Puma because they couldn't reach an agreement in salary.
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
March 15 2013 16:12 GMT
#504
I still think puma has potential to be very good again, sad to see him go right when they change coach

Not sure why they keep some of their current roster though for obvious reasons...
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
March 15 2013 16:16 GMT
#505
On March 16 2013 00:44 Jibba wrote:
It's interesting to see the way Nazgul talks about his current and former players, and the way Alex does it.

You mean with respect? Because I have read all the press releases and statements regarding players leaving, (Haypro, Jinro, Tyler and Puma) and they seem respectful all of them. Both those made be Nazgul and Alex.
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
March 15 2013 16:16 GMT
#506
As a businessman myself, I find it hard to look at this with a lot of objectivity.

Typically if you are in a financial situation where you wish to obtain a higher goal (I.E. Proleague) then you objectively identify weaknesses and efficiency of the entire company (team).

At the end of the day, EG can do whatever they want to. However, my opinion is that they should take a broader approach to identifying goals and pursuing them.

GL Puma



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josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
March 15 2013 16:16 GMT
#507
GL to EG and PuMa in the future. Tough news
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
March 15 2013 16:20 GMT
#508
Remember how quickly EG approached PuMa after all those victories and the 10 gazillion page thread that ensued?

Oops!
KaienFEMC
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada127 Posts
March 15 2013 16:25 GMT
#509
On March 16 2013 00:44 Jibba wrote:
It's interesting to see the way Nazgul talks about his current and former players, and the way Alex does it.


It is very interesting. The difference is probably due to how the teams were run though. TL always seem to be a more family like team. Both statements were made very professionally though. Very nicely done.
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
March 15 2013 16:25 GMT
#510
I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.
Terran.
malaan
Profile Joined September 2010
365 Posts
March 15 2013 16:27 GMT
#511
On March 15 2013 14:16 GreyKnight wrote:
pretty much a nice way of saying he wasn't good enough for his salary.


wtf? Idra hasnt won shit in ages, yet he is still there. Puma is way better than Idra.. stop looking too much into things.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
March 15 2013 16:28 GMT
#512
Just frees up money to hire moar Koreans.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
March 15 2013 16:29 GMT
#513
On March 16 2013 01:25 HoLe wrote:
I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.


Because if you read the fucking announcement, they couldn't reach an agreement on the contract. Puma didn't want to have a smaller contract. Lz has already left EG and Machine is probably getting no money from EG. He just lives in the house and goes to MLG.

Before you comment, please read the entire announcement. There are so many posts in this thread where people have not read the entire announcement and they ask stupid questions that are answered in the announcement.
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
March 15 2013 16:29 GMT
#514
On March 16 2013 01:25 HoLe wrote:
I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.


salaries i guess and any of those have more exposure than puma
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Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
March 15 2013 16:29 GMT
#515
On March 16 2013 01:25 HoLe wrote:
I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.



LzGamer isn't on EG, hasn't been for *about* 2 months

As for Machine, I'd throw out my EG shirt if they dropped him
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GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
March 15 2013 16:30 GMT
#516
If EG starts releasing players who show poor results disproportionate to their high salaries, they're going to have a small roster indeed...
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
March 15 2013 16:31 GMT
#517
On March 16 2013 01:16 Ctone23 wrote:
As a businessman myself, I find it hard to look at this with a lot of objectivity.

Typically if you are in a financial situation where you wish to obtain a higher goal (I.E. Proleague) then you objectively identify weaknesses and efficiency of the entire company (team).

At the end of the day, EG can do whatever they want to. However, my opinion is that they should take a broader approach to identifying goals and pursuing them.

GL Puma





They are taking a "broader approach". They hired a more experienced head coach and they stated they are planning on picking up more players.....
Evil Geniuses<3
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 15 2013 16:31 GMT
#518
On March 16 2013 01:16 Ctone23 wrote:
As a businessman myself, I find it hard to look at this with a lot of objectivity.

Typically if you are in a financial situation where you wish to obtain a higher goal (I.E. Proleague) then you objectively identify weaknesses and efficiency of the entire company (team).

At the end of the day, EG can do whatever they want to. However, my opinion is that they should take a broader approach to identifying goals and pursuing them.

GL Puma





Subjectively, this makes very little sense

Are you saying that Proleague as a goal, is bad for EG?
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 15 2013 16:33 GMT
#519
On March 16 2013 01:30 GoodSirTets wrote:
If EG starts releasing players who show poor results disproportionate to their high salaries, they're going to have a small roster indeed...


I think it is more important to consider that some players may have willingly taken salary cuts due to poor results.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 16:36:31
March 15 2013 16:34 GMT
#520
Sounds like EG made a solid attempt to keep Puma by making his contract more incentive based(I see winning foreign tournaments as the incentive), as his result have been lackluster. EG drops the salary significantly, but ensures Puma will have more opportunities abroad to try and win tournaments(And make up for the difference in pay with additional prize money).

Many professional sports athletes get contracts like that when slumping or past their prime, and they can work out well for both sides.
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