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On March 16 2013 00:52 QuantumChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 00:48 Plansix wrote:On March 16 2013 00:27 derpface wrote:
Now I wonder who will go next, HuK or Machine or hopefully iNcontroL? Keep hoping, its not going to happen. Incontrol provides a ton of value to EG though media presence, regardless of his results in events. And because of his media and community presence, other team members can focus on practice and events. EG has no reason to get rid of their front man when he is doing such a good job at it. Not to mention Incontrol is semi-retired from pro play at this point and is focusing on his other strengths - commentating, event hosting etc. As well as being the team captain and the public face of EG. Alex would be retarded to drop Incontrol.
Exactly. And like Artosis, he will throw his hat into the an open bracket now and again because he loves to compete, which is super respectable. I wouldn’t be shocked if over the next year he also tried to learn from Coach Park on how to coach professional players and set up solid practice sessions. There is no reason not to try to export some of that magic to the EG lair.
There are a lot of places on a team that are important and need someone with Incontrol’s skill set.
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It is a sound business move, the dude is not performing to his currently salary or wasn't bringing any exposure and marketability to the brand. Puma didn't agree to the pay cut and was release, I mean it happen all the time in professional sports. It will be pretty difficult for puma to look for teams that can even match his former salary or close to it but good luck.
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On March 16 2013 00:44 Jibba wrote:
It's interesting to see the way Nazgul talks about his current and former players, and the way Alex does it.
There's a difference in circumstance behind how the players are released from their respective teams. Liquid players opted to leave the game either to retire from the game completely or become team less.
Alex released Puma because they couldn't reach an agreement in salary.
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I still think puma has potential to be very good again, sad to see him go right when they change coach
Not sure why they keep some of their current roster though for obvious reasons...
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On March 16 2013 00:44 Jibba wrote:
It's interesting to see the way Nazgul talks about his current and former players, and the way Alex does it.
You mean with respect? Because I have read all the press releases and statements regarding players leaving, (Haypro, Jinro, Tyler and Puma) and they seem respectful all of them. Both those made be Nazgul and Alex.
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As a businessman myself, I find it hard to look at this with a lot of objectivity.
Typically if you are in a financial situation where you wish to obtain a higher goal (I.E. Proleague) then you objectively identify weaknesses and efficiency of the entire company (team).
At the end of the day, EG can do whatever they want to. However, my opinion is that they should take a broader approach to identifying goals and pursuing them.
GL Puma
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GL to EG and PuMa in the future. Tough news
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Remember how quickly EG approached PuMa after all those victories and the 10 gazillion page thread that ensued?
Oops!
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On March 16 2013 00:44 Jibba wrote:
It's interesting to see the way Nazgul talks about his current and former players, and the way Alex does it.
It is very interesting. The difference is probably due to how the teams were run though. TL always seem to be a more family like team. Both statements were made very professionally though. Very nicely done.
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I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.
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On March 15 2013 14:16 GreyKnight wrote:
pretty much a nice way of saying he wasn't good enough for his salary.
wtf? Idra hasnt won shit in ages, yet he is still there. Puma is way better than Idra.. stop looking too much into things.
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Just frees up money to hire moar Koreans.
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On March 16 2013 01:25 HoLe wrote:
I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.
Because if you read the fucking announcement, they couldn't reach an agreement on the contract. Puma didn't want to have a smaller contract. Lz has already left EG and Machine is probably getting no money from EG. He just lives in the house and goes to MLG.
Before you comment, please read the entire announcement. There are so many posts in this thread where people have not read the entire announcement and they ask stupid questions that are answered in the announcement.
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On March 16 2013 01:25 HoLe wrote:
I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.
salaries i guess and any of those have more exposure than puma
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On March 16 2013 01:25 HoLe wrote:
I'm sorry but if this is happening why weren't Machine and Lz released ages ago too? I can understand incontrol staying around as he is a legitimate engine for EG. But pffff...Puma, man.
LzGamer isn't on EG, hasn't been for *about* 2 months
As for Machine, I'd throw out my EG shirt if they dropped him 
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If EG starts releasing players who show poor results disproportionate to their high salaries, they're going to have a small roster indeed...
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On March 16 2013 01:16 Ctone23 wrote:
As a businessman myself, I find it hard to look at this with a lot of objectivity.
Typically if you are in a financial situation where you wish to obtain a higher goal (I.E. Proleague) then you objectively identify weaknesses and efficiency of the entire company (team).
At the end of the day, EG can do whatever they want to. However, my opinion is that they should take a broader approach to identifying goals and pursuing them.
GL Puma
They are taking a "broader approach". They hired a more experienced head coach and they stated they are planning on picking up more players.....
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On March 16 2013 01:16 Ctone23 wrote:
As a businessman myself, I find it hard to look at this with a lot of objectivity.
Typically if you are in a financial situation where you wish to obtain a higher goal (I.E. Proleague) then you objectively identify weaknesses and efficiency of the entire company (team).
At the end of the day, EG can do whatever they want to. However, my opinion is that they should take a broader approach to identifying goals and pursuing them.
GL Puma
Subjectively, this makes very little sense
Are you saying that Proleague as a goal, is bad for EG?
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On March 16 2013 01:30 GoodSirTets wrote:
If EG starts releasing players who show poor results disproportionate to their high salaries, they're going to have a small roster indeed...
I think it is more important to consider that some players may have willingly taken salary cuts due to poor results.
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Sounds like EG made a solid attempt to keep Puma by making his contract more incentive based(I see winning foreign tournaments as the incentive), as his result have been lackluster. EG drops the salary significantly, but ensures Puma will have more opportunities abroad to try and win tournaments(And make up for the difference in pay with additional prize money).
Many professional sports athletes get contracts like that when slumping or past their prime, and they can work out well for both sides.
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