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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 18 2013 03:44 GMT
#701
On March 18 2013 11:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
This is the first time I've ever heard of EG having money issues.

Wut.

money issues? wut? because they didnt want to pay Puma more than he's worth its money issues? No, its called smart business.
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spajn
Profile Joined August 2011
34 Posts
March 18 2013 14:46 GMT
#702
incontrol, idra and machine should get released...
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
March 18 2013 14:47 GMT
#703
Is tasteless still on EG?
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
March 18 2013 14:48 GMT
#704
On March 18 2013 12:44 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
This is the first time I've ever heard of EG having money issues.

Wut.

money issues? wut? because they didnt want to pay Puma more than he's worth its money issues? No, its called smart business.


They did it with Grubby too.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 18 2013 14:53 GMT
#705
On March 18 2013 23:47 edgeOut wrote:
Is tasteless still on EG?


No, not since like end of 2010
I think he left when IdrA left Korea
Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
March 18 2013 15:29 GMT
#706
Sad to see this - but understandable. The Hero - Puma rivalry was by far some of the best SC2 has ever seen.
seoul_kiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States545 Posts
March 18 2013 18:43 GMT
#707
I feel like a Korean terran is going to be picked up.....

oGs.MC: Repair IMBAAAAAAAAAAa
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
March 18 2013 18:46 GMT
#708
On March 19 2013 03:43 seoul_kiM wrote:
I feel like a Korean terran is going to be picked up.....


What do you call something after a Revival?
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
March 18 2013 18:48 GMT
#709
I wonder if they really were trying to renegotiate. I mean what kind of contract would PuMa turn down?
Xahhk
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada540 Posts
March 18 2013 18:57 GMT
#710
THey basically said he was only good against foreigners in roundabout blunted language. That's hilarious.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 19:28:57
March 18 2013 19:25 GMT
#711
On March 18 2013 03:36 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 01:13 Bjarne wrote:
On March 16 2013 04:04 WolfintheSheep wrote:
People who fill these threads with stupid criticisms of other EG players should get warned, or banned outright. It's getting sickening to see every single EG related thread full of bullshit from people who have absolutely no concept of ROI, or don't give a fuck about anything except hating on players they have in their targets.


*Thumbs up*
Everybody should pay attention to this post.
Sad but true, its the truth...


I don't wont to chime in to the off-topic that is being discussed here, but maybe some people are just in secret upset because one of the best financially backed teams outside of Korea is judging competitive players by their ROI instead of skill?

They're well-off financially BECAUSE they're good at judging players on ROI. ALL e-sports teams, in one way or another, judge on ROI. E-sports is a BUSINESS. What matters most to teams is that more money is being brought in than is being spent.

On March 18 2013 11:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
This is the first time I've ever heard of EG having money issues.

Wut.


Just because they're better off financially than most teams does not mean Puma was worth keeping for the level of salary he was requesting. EG didn't get into its financial position by backing losing investments.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Juggernaut477
Profile Joined May 2011
United States379 Posts
March 18 2013 20:57 GMT
#712
On March 18 2013 23:46 spajn wrote:
incontrol, idra and machine should get released...


This stupid point has been addressed time and time again in this thread
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
March 19 2013 00:10 GMT
#713
GLHF in the future Puma!
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
OrD_SC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States247 Posts
March 19 2013 08:36 GMT
#714
<3 the candor of the statement. Puma will be alright. JYP is likely next.
Baldie disapproved of my last status, TT
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 19 2013 12:02 GMT
#715
Wow that was some unexpected honesty.
Stop procrastinating
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
March 19 2013 12:11 GMT
#716
On March 19 2013 17:36 OrD_SC2 wrote:
<3 the candor of the statement. Puma will be alright. JYP is likely next.

Why? He's one of the better performers in SPL from EG-TL, which they are invested super heavily in to, and he was Code S about 2-3 seasons ago. Why would they ever let him go?
Get crunk
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
March 19 2013 12:16 GMT
#717
Yeah, I don't see JYP going anywhere in a hurry, he's a staple of their Proleague line-up and as far as I can tell from (honestly) little intentional observation, he seems to be enjoying it. I think the EG-TL line-up is glad he seems enthusiastic to be a regular and I would (utterly) guess that Hwanni was happy with it too.

That said, Coach Park may have other ideas, but I would guess that, so long as JYP is not being paid as much as Puma (and his performances have been significantly better anyway), Coach Park would rather help JYP to become a greater asset to the team rather than ditch him ASAP a la Chelsea/Real*/$moneymoneymoney$ clubs.
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OrD_SC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States247 Posts
March 21 2013 12:34 GMT
#718
On March 19 2013 21:11 KvltMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 17:36 OrD_SC2 wrote:
<3 the candor of the statement. Puma will be alright. JYP is likely next.

Why? He's one of the better performers in SPL from EG-TL, which they are invested super heavily in to, and he was Code S about 2-3 seasons ago. Why would they ever let him go?


While I don't argue he's had some good showings in the SPL the question is if his place on the team is cost-efficient? I wrote the comment in haste, but, before posting took a look at his recent overall win percentages and they are unimpressive. He was another Korean, like Puma, who transitioned away from Korean teams before it became "common" and therefore I'm making the educated guess from the OP that his salary is high as well. If evaluating from a marketing standpoint, has JYP generated significant ROI for sponsors? I don't know, but considering limited exposure from major tournament decisions and mediocre concurrent stream-view numbers (twitch.tv/egjyp) it seems unlikely.

I have no ill will towards JYP, my post is an honest prediction that I (pridefully) assumed people would agree with.
Baldie disapproved of my last status, TT
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12759 Posts
March 21 2013 12:58 GMT
#719
On March 21 2013 21:34 OrD_SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 21:11 KvltMan wrote:
On March 19 2013 17:36 OrD_SC2 wrote:
<3 the candor of the statement. Puma will be alright. JYP is likely next.

Why? He's one of the better performers in SPL from EG-TL, which they are invested super heavily in to, and he was Code S about 2-3 seasons ago. Why would they ever let him go?


While I don't argue he's had some good showings in the SPL the question is if his place on the team is cost-efficient? I wrote the comment in haste, but, before posting took a look at his recent overall win percentages and they are unimpressive. He was another Korean, like Puma, who transitioned away from Korean teams before it became "common" and therefore I'm making the educated guess from the OP that his salary is high as well. If evaluating from a marketing standpoint, has JYP generated significant ROI for sponsors? I don't know, but considering limited exposure from major tournament decisions and mediocre concurrent stream-view numbers (twitch.tv/egjyp) it seems unlikely.

I have no ill will towards JYP, my post is an honest prediction that I (pridefully) assumed people would agree with.

not me, JYP does well in a team league and that isn't gonna change. He is also finally doing well in PvT.
EGTL has a pretty weak protoss line up, now isn't the time to take out a relatively good protoss. (I think JYP is performing better in SPL than Hero?)
JYP popularity in Korea is supposedly to be quite high too.
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