I don't wont to chime in to the off-topic that is being discussed here, but maybe some people are just in secret upset because one of the best financially backed teams outside of Korea is judging competitive players by their ROI instead of skill?

They're well-off financially BECAUSE they're good at judging players on ROI. ALL e-sports teams, in one way or another, judge on ROI. E-sports is a BUSINESS. What matters most to teams is that more money is being brought in than is being spent.

On March 18 2013 11:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
This is the first time I've ever heard of EG having money issues.

Wut.

Just because they're better off financially than most teams does not mean Puma was worth keeping for the level of salary he was requesting. EG didn't get into its financial position by backing losing investments.

Juggernaut477

United States379 Posts

March 18 2013 20:57 GMT

#712

On March 18 2013 23:46 spajn wrote:
incontrol, idra and machine should get released...

This stupid point has been addressed time and time again in this thread

dirtydurb82

United States178 Posts

March 19 2013 00:10 GMT

#713

GLHF in the future Puma!

OrD_SC2

United States247 Posts

March 19 2013 08:36 GMT

#714

<3 the candor of the statement. Puma will be alright. JYP is likely next.

padfoota

Taiwan1571 Posts

March 19 2013 12:02 GMT

#715

Wow that was some unexpected honesty.

KvltMan

Sweden1609 Posts

March 19 2013 12:11 GMT

#716

On March 19 2013 17:36 OrD_SC2 wrote:
<3 the candor of the statement. Puma will be alright. JYP is likely next.

Why? He's one of the better performers in SPL from EG-TL, which they are invested super heavily in to, and he was Code S about 2-3 seasons ago. Why would they ever let him go?

Fuchsteufelswild

Australia2028 Posts

March 19 2013 12:16 GMT

#717

Yeah, I don't see JYP going anywhere in a hurry, he's a staple of their Proleague line-up and as far as I can tell from (honestly) little intentional observation, he seems to be enjoying it. I think the EG-TL line-up is glad he seems enthusiastic to be a regular and I would (utterly) guess that Hwanni was happy with it too.

That said, Coach Park may have other ideas, but I would guess that, so long as JYP is not being paid as much as Puma (and his performances have been significantly better anyway), Coach Park would rather help JYP to become a greater asset to the team rather than ditch him ASAP a la Chelsea/Real*/$moneymoneymoney$ clubs.

OrD_SC2

United States247 Posts

March 21 2013 12:34 GMT

#718

On March 19 2013 21:11 KvltMan wrote:

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Why? He's one of the better performers in SPL from EG-TL, which they are invested super heavily in to, and he was Code S about 2-3 seasons ago. Why would they ever let him go?

While I don't argue he's had some good showings in the SPL the question is if his place on the team is cost-efficient? I wrote the comment in haste, but, before posting took a look at his recent overall win percentages and they are unimpressive. He was another Korean, like Puma, who transitioned away from Korean teams before it became "common" and therefore I'm making the educated guess from the OP that his salary is high as well. If evaluating from a marketing standpoint, has JYP generated significant ROI for sponsors? I don't know, but considering limited exposure from major tournament decisions and mediocre concurrent stream-view numbers (twitch.tv/egjyp) it seems unlikely.

I have no ill will towards JYP, my post is an honest prediction that I (pridefully) assumed people would agree with.

ETisME

12714 Posts

March 21 2013 12:58 GMT

#719

On March 21 2013 21:34 OrD_SC2 wrote:

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not me, JYP does well in a team league and that isn't gonna change. He is also finally doing well in PvT.
EGTL has a pretty weak protoss line up, now isn't the time to take out a relatively good protoss. (I think JYP is performing better in SPL than Hero?)
JYP popularity in Korea is supposedly to be quite high too.