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progamers really need to know patch date.. :(

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Golden
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)42 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 15:47:11
January 15 2013 15:45 GMT
#1
hi, i'm golden from korea and startale. i participation IEM katowice.

i saw some guy said "already apply infestor terran nurf in SEA, NA i tested it" (i want he lying T_T..)

blizzard is never notice patch date. just upload balance test map and "we are planning^_^!" progamers get very confused before tournament. i depart to poland for IEM tomorrow, so i don't have patch adaptation period. if blizzard did notice patch date, i practice on 1.5.4 patch maps. but they didn't.. just upload and apply. i got same happen in when NASL4 Grand Final, fungal nurf. progamers really need to know patch date. i don't need again this happen ;.;

thanks . sorry for noob english <3
misidia
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada5 Posts
January 15 2013 15:51 GMT
#2
Well, there are tournaments year round, you can't have them accommodate their patches for everyone.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 15 2013 15:51 GMT
#3
I thought there was a "Pro-Forum" on battle.net. Wouldn't this be the best place to get in touch with Blizzard and tell them to give you the patch dates in time?

Else I agree with you. Blizzard should announce balance patches at least one weak before they go online, so that Proplayers have enough time to adapt.
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
January 15 2013 15:53 GMT
#4
On January 16 2013 00:51 misidia wrote:
Well, there are tournaments year round, you can't have them accommodate their patches for everyone.

didn't you read the post? lol
He doesn't say "change the patch date" but wants the patch date to be announced earlier so he can prepare for a tournament with the patch it will actually be played

valid complain imo
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
January 15 2013 15:53 GMT
#5
I think he's saying that advanced notice would help so he could at least prepare. If you have a strategy or timing that doesn't work after the patch, you can prepare something else that would work.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
January 15 2013 15:53 GMT
#6
I agree here. Blizzard need to communicate their plans for incoming patches together with some kind of schedule at least 1week ahead of time. I can fully understand Zerg players complaining right now, because this patch actually matters a lot in ZvP and ZvZ. (ZvT is pretty much unaffected since getting range attack upgrades there is pretty uncommon). We need more communication here!
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
January 15 2013 15:53 GMT
#7
I agree with your post, given the circumstances. Some initial announcement by Blizz before implementing new things would be nice.
Jaedong <3
derive
Profile Joined December 2010
France31 Posts
January 15 2013 15:54 GMT
#8
Well, there are tournaments year round, you can't have them accommodate their patches for everyone.
He is not asking for any accommodation, just knowing a bit in advance when then plan to release the patch. Seems legitimate for a pro player.
HungrySC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States191 Posts
January 15 2013 15:54 GMT
#9
He's not asking for accommodations.

He's asking for notice. So that he is aware when the balance change will occur and can be prepared for it.

It's no small mindfuck.
"First say to yourself what you would be; And then do what you have to do. (Epictetus)
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
January 15 2013 15:55 GMT
#10
very true, especially this time they announced to release a test map 3 days ago, now they implement it lol
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
January 15 2013 15:55 GMT
#11
I agree, but this really isn't the place to discuss it. It does no good here. B.Net forums are the only place it'll get exposure.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 15 2013 15:55 GMT
#12
That's quite a really severe problem you raise there Golden... I thought it was quite well explained, and not "backdoor patching" which may cause players being caught off guard due to a game change...

I remember that Blizzard said they want to cooperate to help the scene grow. Either they need someone to teach them really quickly how to "help", either they were just saying "cooperate with companies so that SC2 brings $$".

Gasp...
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illidan333
Profile Joined August 2010
Iran102 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 19:20:14
January 15 2013 15:55 GMT
#13
Wrong post. Sorry

User was warned for this post
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 15 2013 15:56 GMT
#14
It's a valid complaint, I can imagine it having significant effects on players. Reread the op misidia.

Golden, impressive enough that you bothered to write in english, no need to apologise!
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 15 2013 15:58 GMT
#15
Valid criticism. You should try and get in touch with Blizzard about it.
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Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
January 15 2013 15:58 GMT
#16
I agree Golden. It really isn't fair for there to be significant changes to the game just before a tournament, especially when the patch comes without any prior notice. I fully expect Zergs to be underperforming simply because they will overestimate the strength of their ITs.
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 16:01:36
January 15 2013 15:58 GMT
#17
It was "announced" a week ago that some changes would be made and they were working on it.
They also posted they would like to push these changes asap not to infect tournament results.

So try to stay updated.
The normal times for changes to happen is:
NA: Tuesday
EU: Wednesday
SEA is Tuesday as well but ofc several hours before NA.

But Blizzard didn't even include the IT nerf in the patch notes, as well as the map changes so they SHOULD diffidently improve on that.
The curse is real
Garfailed
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
January 15 2013 16:02 GMT
#18
I'll will post this on the battle.net forums, see if i can get any blue posts. Guess its better to let them know about these things.
About the topic, this shouldnt happen anymore. Our scene is getting bigger and better by the day, and blizzard keeps fucking up, even the basic things like this.
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 16:06:07
January 15 2013 16:04 GMT
#19
The thing is, I don't think there's one guy in Blizzard who is consistently going to know the patch is going to be implemented a few days ahead of patch time. Blizzard is a big company and content like balance patches has to go through many avenues before it is deemed ready to be uploaded.

A guy like Dustin Browder has to come up with what is being changed, which then gets passed onto their tech guys to be put into the game code, then it has to be tested, then ultimately sent to someone for final approval.

I'm not saying they couldn't be more open about what they're doing (far from it) but I can understand the hesitancy in announcing the concrete details of a future patch when they are still in the processing stage.

On January 16 2013 00:55 illidan333 wrote:
Kiwikaki !!!!!!!!!!

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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 16:14:17
January 15 2013 16:13 GMT
#20
You are a pro, I'm sure you'll have no problem adapting. This patch is not exactly ground breaking, it's not like they overhauled the whole gameplay or something. Besides, basically every single progamer is in the same situation as you, so the field is leveled.

Reminds me of these football players who complain that they couldn't play to the best of their ability because it was raining that day.
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