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Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
November 18 2012 20:48 GMT
#81
Mistake, never give money to family. Give it to an investor where it is signed off on and cannot be spent.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
November 18 2012 20:52 GMT
#82
It is a little confusing, because getting upset about a minor thing and then complaining about it on the internet is exactly what drama queens do. But, to be clear, this is not what Parting did. Instead, he got upset about the replays, and decided to smash his opponent in-game as a result... something we can all agree is a proportionate and even welcome response.

Then he bragged about doing this in the interview. That's just Parting.
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
November 18 2012 20:55 GMT
#83
When I drank Red Bull this year, it gave me wings.
Brilliant.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 18 2012 20:59 GMT
#84
I still can't understand Korean culture where most pro gamers feel the need to give most money to their parents. Sure they raised them and what not, but... is this the same in the west?
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
November 18 2012 21:02 GMT
#85
Well, I liked Parting before this interview.. Now I'm not so sure anymore. He's being too cocky right now.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
November 18 2012 21:03 GMT
#86
On November 19 2012 05:59 darkness wrote:
I still can't understand Korean culture where most pro gamers feel the need to give most money to their parents. Sure they raised them and what not, but... is this the same in the west?


Better than blowing it all like most young 20 year olds do no?

Its not like Mom is going to rush out and buy a benz for herself. It'll probably be saved towards buying a house for when Parting marries or upgrading their own home. Its a stereotype but most middle-class Koreans will convert a stack of cash to property.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
November 18 2012 21:05 GMT
#87
On November 19 2012 05:40 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:12 Tachion wrote:
On November 19 2012 05:01 monsterDrakar wrote:
How are so many people misunderstanding that part of the interview about Suppy. It is not about looking at his replays or working together with another foreigner to beat him. I am sure Koreans are dissecting the replays of their opponents with their teammates all the time.

Parting says that Suppy goes for a complete blind counter while at the same time clearly lacks the proper practice to understand what he is doing, hence Parting responded by making his attack even stronger that time. He is basically calling Suppy a lesser player and he is right. It is not like he went out of his way to say that - he was asked a question, he answered honestly.

It's open to interpretation. He mentions how much more Koreans practice than foreigners, and then emphasizes the fact that Suppy got to see Scarlett's replays and learn his timings. His well practiced play was blind countered and he lost to a foreigner because his timings got leaked, and it upset him.


Are you serious, what is there to leak? Why would you need replays to know when his attacks arrive? The Scarlett games were streamed to the whole world.

I agree with monsterDrakar. Still a little unclear to me why he "broke down psychologically", but whatever, maybe he just has a lot of pride.

"Having seen my timings and strategies in those replays, Suppy blindly built around 15 Spine Crawlers and Zerglings even before I had moved out to attack."
Read it again. He says Suppy won because of the replays he saw. Maybe Suppy didn't need to watch those to learn his timings, but Parting still thinks that is the reason his push failed. It's pretty clear.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
November 18 2012 21:06 GMT
#88
On November 19 2012 06:02 MetalPanda wrote:
Well, I liked Parting before this interview.. Now I'm not so sure anymore. He's being too cocky right now.


Didn't seem unusually cocky to me. You must be upset about the foreigner comment.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18569 Posts
November 18 2012 21:11 GMT
#89
On November 19 2012 05:59 darkness wrote:
I still can't understand Korean culture where most pro gamers feel the need to give most money to their parents. Sure they raised them and what not, but... is this the same in the west?


Considering most Asian parents spend their whole life to be able to give their children the best education, lifestyle, food that is possible I don't see what is wrong with this.

I find it more wrong how some western people are sometimes borderline ungrateful to their parents.
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
November 18 2012 21:13 GMT
#90
On November 19 2012 06:02 MetalPanda wrote:
Well, I liked Parting before this interview.. Now I'm not so sure anymore. He's being too cocky right now.


There are differences between being cocky and saying things in jest, keep in mind that a lot of can be lost with the interview being passed to written form and a translation. Parting is always practicing, smiling and greeting his opponentes after a loss, for me those are signs of a humble man having fun.

His interviews are always cocky on a funny side, typical parting.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Alaiz
Profile Joined November 2011
France118 Posts
November 18 2012 21:17 GMT
#91
It seems that drinking Red Bull makes you better at SC2... Life and Parting... What about Pocari Sweat ?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 21:18 GMT
#92
On November 19 2012 05:59 darkness wrote:
I still can't understand Korean culture where most pro gamers feel the need to give most money to their parents. Sure they raised them and what not, but... is this the same in the west?

o.O culture in asia is really parent-centric
you'll notice a lot of western parents, in old age, probably will not be expected to be taken care of by their kids, since they don't want to be a burden
in asia, it's considered an honor to be taken care of by your kids when you get old, etc
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convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
November 18 2012 21:22 GMT
#93
On November 19 2012 06:13 DontGiveUp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 06:02 MetalPanda wrote:
Well, I liked Parting before this interview.. Now I'm not so sure anymore. He's being too cocky right now.


There are differences between being cocky and saying things in jest, keep in mind that a lot of can be lost with the interview being passed to written form and a translation. Parting is always practicing, smiling and greeting his opponentes after a loss, for me those are signs of a humble man having fun.

His interviews are always cocky on a funny side, typical parting.

A good example of hard to figure out in interviews is Parting during the OSL nomination ceremony. If you read the transcript, you'd think he was an arrogant jerk. If you watched it, everyone was very much enjoying his jests
Siggen
Profile Joined November 2011
143 Posts
November 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#94
I didn't see the games vs Suppy, but I feel that studying your opponents games should be praised upon rather than looked down on.
Ldawg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 21:37:40
November 18 2012 21:30 GMT
#95
I agree many people are over-reacting to Parting's comments about Suppy. Typical Parting-type comments, nothing new. Koreans help Koreans, foreigners help foreigners, teammates help teammates - who cares? It's not as if Suppy didn't know what was coming anyway.

I do have to say I was rooting for a Zerg for the first time I can recall (country before race lmao) and I was crazy-excited after the first two games.

Edit- By the way, anyone else get tired of seeing PvZs?? I don't include PvP and ZvZ because I couldn't even bring myself to watch more than a few of these.
"Terran so...ice cream!" MKP/MC at HSC IV
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 18 2012 21:30 GMT
#96
On November 19 2012 05:59 darkness wrote:
I still can't understand Korean culture where most pro gamers feel the need to give most money to their parents. Sure they raised them and what not, but... is this the same in the west?

It's Confucianism & filial piety. Basically, think of yourself as an investment that your parents made. You need to pay them back somehow for draining a ton of their assets over several years; often this is done through monetary support (esp. when they are older) and by being a good, loyal child. (This doesn't only just apply to Korea btw, but most of Asia).

There are both positive and negative things about this way of thought, and you often run into that conflict between collective and individual desires.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 18 2012 21:38 GMT
#97
The number of times I've seen Koreans watching replays together after matches at events is astounding.

Really surprised PartinG would say something like that.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
November 18 2012 21:42 GMT
#98
On November 19 2012 03:32 Otolia wrote:
PartinG reaching new heights of arrogance ... And now it's even mixed with xenophobia both against ZeNEX and foreigners. So maybe he should reflect upon his own philosophy instead of cutting sleep. *sigh*

Ahh kids these days ...


Wtf?!
"Xenophobia against ZeNEX"? People call StarTale KongTale -> Life wins -> People still call the team KongTale as Life just recently joined ST -> Now Parting wins and there is no reason anymore to speak of a ST curse. Where exactly is Partings xenophobia (assuming that word would be applicable in this situation)?

"Xenophobia against foreigners", because he says that Koreans practice more than foreigners? Seriously?
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 21:47:10
November 18 2012 21:46 GMT
#99
On November 19 2012 06:30 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 05:59 darkness wrote:
I still can't understand Korean culture where most pro gamers feel the need to give most money to their parents. Sure they raised them and what not, but... is this the same in the west?

It's Confucianism & filial piety. Basically, think of yourself as an investment that your parents made. You need to pay them back somehow for draining a ton of their assets over several years; often this is done through monetary support (esp. when they are older) and by being a good, loyal child. (This doesn't only just apply to Korea btw, but most of Asia).

There are both positive and negative things about this way of thought, and you often run into that conflict between collective and individual desires.


Thanks - I was under the impression the south korean savings rate was much higher than it was so that botched my thinking, this seems like a solid explanation.

Anyway, loved the Parting interview, what a boss. I can understand watching replays in practice time but mid tournament... come on Suppy take it like a man, you were going to lose either way haha.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 18 2012 21:54 GMT
#100
I didn't like parting before but now I like him seeing how much he's got people riled up. He's like the dennis rodman of sc2.
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