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mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
November 11 2012 00:24 GMT
#21
just learned about the downsizing today, sad to see some of my friends leave the team
Proziam
Profile Joined July 2011
United States18 Posts
November 11 2012 00:28 GMT
#22
I feel like I should clarify a few things here.

First off, the reason for the downsize was due to sponsor negotiations where the sponsors didn't feel comfortable with the contracts we had in place for some of the starcraft players as it gave them freedom that could end up reflecting poorly on them. As a result, we would have to offer new contracts or terminate the contracts in order to get the sponsors to agree.

Couple this with the fact that we are also now covering console teams and it makes it more worthwhile to focus on a smaller core group of starcraft players in larger tournaments, than to have a larger group in team leagues.

Anyway, I know we're probably going to take some flak for this and I think it's justified. But I just ask that people understand that surviving in this industry requires working with sponsors and in many cases they are in a dominant position. We bear no ill will toward any of the players we have released and wish them the best of luck.
"You either sweat today or bleed tomorrow."
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 00:33:55
November 11 2012 00:32 GMT
#23
I think its impossible for Desrow to ever stay on a team for more than a month or two.
Always something unfortunate.
PSIKevin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
November 11 2012 00:49 GMT
#24
Okay so I honestly want to know more about Pulse eSports, they have a pretty good League of Legends team, but they had to drop people because of "sponsor issues", who are they even sponsored by? They don't have a functioning website, and they don't have their sponsors listed anywhere. They announced a roster late September, and little over a month later they lose all but two of their players. It really is weird and pretty shady, also the OP is pretty underwritten. These aren't nobodies, people know DesRow and there isn't even a proper write up. So overall I just wish that there was more information or transparency in Pulse, not just "roster downsizing."
xO-Gaming
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
November 11 2012 00:50 GMT
#25
On November 11 2012 09:28 Proziam wrote:
I feel like I should clarify a few things here.

First off, the reason for the downsize was due to sponsor negotiations where the sponsors didn't feel comfortable with the contracts we had in place for some of the starcraft players as it gave them freedom that could end up reflecting poorly on them. As a result, we would have to offer new contracts or terminate the contracts in order to get the sponsors to agree.

Couple this with the fact that we are also now covering console teams and it makes it more worthwhile to focus on a smaller core group of starcraft players in larger tournaments, than to have a larger group in team leagues.

Anyway, I know we're probably going to take some flak for this and I think it's justified. But I just ask that people understand that surviving in this industry requires working with sponsors and in many cases they are in a dominant position. We bear no ill will toward any of the players we have released and wish them the best of luck.



this should be put in the OP as a response from someone that seems to play a role in Pulse eSports
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 11 2012 00:55 GMT
#26
noo Desbro
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
November 11 2012 00:56 GMT
#27
good luck to desrow, he just got on the team and now this ... bad break
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
November 11 2012 00:57 GMT
#28
I hope Desrow finds a team taht can support him long term. Poor guy is hopping around teams here and there.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 01:05:41
November 11 2012 01:04 GMT
#29
I'm not a Desrow fan, but I wonder why they'd rather keep someone (Kane, not sure about Kitty's situation) that has no intent on being a progamer, whereas Desrow is dedicating to this.
Refer to my post.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 11 2012 01:15 GMT
#30
On November 11 2012 09:21 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 09:20 Aunvilgod wrote:
On November 11 2012 08:55 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
any of those guys perform at all? Same with the people they kept, I would be interested to hear from the management what they think about player performance.


desrow is kinda known, but none of the guys performed at all.


they're all ladder warriors like gowser.


Kane and JEcho performed pretty well in WCS Canada,.as well as have strong results on ladder. JEcho also had some strong games in team leagues with Infinity Seven.

Feel bad for desRow though, cant find a steady team.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 01:31:10
November 11 2012 01:31 GMT
#31
On November 11 2012 10:15 vultdylan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 09:21 Gamegene wrote:
On November 11 2012 09:20 Aunvilgod wrote:
On November 11 2012 08:55 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
any of those guys perform at all? Same with the people they kept, I would be interested to hear from the management what they think about player performance.


desrow is kinda known, but none of the guys performed at all.


they're all ladder warriors like gowser.


Kane and JEcho performed pretty well in WCS Canada,.as well as have strong results on ladder. JEcho also had some strong games in team leagues with Infinity Seven.

Feel bad for desRow though, cant find a steady team.


i performed like COMPLETE shit in WCS canada hahahahaha
giX
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States185 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 01:36:55
November 11 2012 01:33 GMT
#32
new team is announced. 2 months later they cut more then half their players..

seems legit.
twitter.com/gixDotA
FXOjEcho
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada318 Posts
November 11 2012 01:34 GMT
#33
On November 11 2012 10:31 LgNKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 10:15 vultdylan wrote:
On November 11 2012 09:21 Gamegene wrote:
On November 11 2012 09:20 Aunvilgod wrote:
On November 11 2012 08:55 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
any of those guys perform at all? Same with the people they kept, I would be interested to hear from the management what they think about player performance.


desrow is kinda known, but none of the guys performed at all.


they're all ladder warriors like gowser.


Kane and JEcho performed pretty well in WCS Canada,.as well as have strong results on ladder. JEcho also had some strong games in team leagues with Infinity Seven.

Feel bad for desRow though, cant find a steady team.


i performed like COMPLETE shit in WCS canada hahahahaha

same,
w.e nothing can be done, and FYI we were contracted.
gl to kane and kitty.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 01:35:23
November 11 2012 01:35 GMT
#34
wheres idra when you need him, hes gonna love this
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Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 11 2012 01:35 GMT
#35
On November 11 2012 09:28 Proziam wrote:
I feel like I should clarify a few things here.

First off, the reason for the downsize was due to sponsor negotiations where the sponsors didn't feel comfortable with the contracts we had in place for some of the starcraft players as it gave them freedom that could end up reflecting poorly on them. As a result, we would have to offer new contracts or terminate the contracts in order to get the sponsors to agree.

Couple this with the fact that we are also now covering console teams and it makes it more worthwhile to focus on a smaller core group of starcraft players in larger tournaments, than to have a larger group in team leagues.

Anyway, I know we're probably going to take some flak for this and I think it's justified. But I just ask that people understand that surviving in this industry requires working with sponsors and in many cases they are in a dominant position. We bear no ill will toward any of the players we have released and wish them the best of luck.



So... you had players who signed contracts. You got new sponsors and suddenly - whoops! Those contracts don't count.

Seems totally legit.


...
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ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
November 11 2012 02:10 GMT
#36
random team is random, kane and hellokitty shud already be looking for another team lol
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
November 11 2012 02:18 GMT
#37
When are these teams gonna have their money right?
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
November 11 2012 02:27 GMT
#38
that sucks
shinyA
Profile Joined November 2008
United States473 Posts
November 11 2012 02:44 GMT
#39
Not surprised.
twitch.tv/ggshinya
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 02:48:24
November 11 2012 02:48 GMT
#40
On November 11 2012 10:35 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 09:28 Proziam wrote:
I feel like I should clarify a few things here.

First off, the reason for the downsize was due to sponsor negotiations where the sponsors didn't feel comfortable with the contracts we had in place for some of the starcraft players as it gave them freedom that could end up reflecting poorly on them. As a result, we would have to offer new contracts or terminate the contracts in order to get the sponsors to agree.

Couple this with the fact that we are also now covering console teams and it makes it more worthwhile to focus on a smaller core group of starcraft players in larger tournaments, than to have a larger group in team leagues.

Anyway, I know we're probably going to take some flak for this and I think it's justified. But I just ask that people understand that surviving in this industry requires working with sponsors and in many cases they are in a dominant position. We bear no ill will toward any of the players we have released and wish them the best of luck.



So... you had players who signed contracts. You got new sponsors and suddenly - whoops! Those contracts don't count.

Seems totally legit.

...


This is worse than the implications I posted :/ Seems like more danger waiting to happen T_T
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