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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
November 01 2012 20:00 GMT
#741
On November 02 2012 04:04 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 04:01 farvacola wrote:
On November 02 2012 03:59 iamho wrote:
Smart decision, now he can get easy cash for beating up some scrubby foreigners.

No one that has ever won money at an MLG has ever claimed that earning said money was easy. So take your scrubby logic elsewhere.


Foreigners are scrubs, that's true. But it is still not easy to win, just because plenty of good Koreans are in this tournament. This is still the favorite foreign tournaments for Koreans.

So I don't think he's thinking it is an easy tournament to win, it is just they prefer MLG, because they have a contract with MLG, and also it is a paid reward vacation for Rain from SKT after his OSL win. So, actually I think he will probably get eliminated very early, just because his mind is not to win.


After all this his mind is on winning for sure!

Plus, I think in many ways WCS Asia is the most comparable tournament and he DOMINATED that so hard. I think he'll crush this MLG.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 01 2012 20:02 GMT
#742
On November 02 2012 04:58 Fionn wrote:
I don't see why anyone is valuing OSL over GSL at the moment. GSL had a bigger crowd at their finals.

Mostly because Mr. Chae knows how to draw a huge foreign base. OSL puts on terrible laggy streams, lag VOD's, and has shown they are inept so far when dealing with a foreign audience. GSL even has a bigger prize pool. You could use the whole OSL is more prestigious thing, but that was Brood War and we're in a new game now.

I will give OSL the edge in the trophy department.


Yeah this is true. But watch out you are speaking logic here! :p
When I think of something else, something will go here
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 01 2012 20:02 GMT
#743
On November 02 2012 04:58 Fionn wrote:
I don't see why anyone is valuing OSL over GSL at the moment. GSL had a bigger crowd at their finals.

Mostly because Mr. Chae knows how to draw a huge foreign base. OSL puts on terrible laggy streams, lag VOD's, and has shown they are inept so far when dealing with a foreign audience. GSL even has a bigger prize pool. You could use the whole OSL is more prestigious thing, but that was Brood War and we're in a new game now.

I will give OSL the edge in the trophy department.


Yeah but try kissing that thing. It's not very kissable, which is a huge issue for OSL, probably their biggest issue at the moment.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
November 01 2012 20:03 GMT
#744
What. NOOOOOO!!!

Well. At least I know he'll be rolling face overseas at MLG. Maybe he wants to go a little more global than just through the GSL?
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Wolfswood
Profile Joined October 2012
United States349 Posts
November 01 2012 20:05 GMT
#745
On November 02 2012 04:28 ZerglingTwins wrote:
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On November 02 2012 04:24 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 02 2012 04:07 Incomplet wrote:
Rain got off veeery lightly. Any lesser of a player would have been suspended from GSL for a few seasons or at the very least, kicked out of all of GSL and had to go through preliminaries like everyone else. The fact that he got relegated to only Code A is a very light punishment.


Yeah. It's actually a silly double standard. It's somewhat fun, because the last guy who did this had the same name, and got suspended for 2 seasons and completely thrown out of the tournament, but that's only a fun coincidence with the Rain name, in reality it's quite saddening that they treat people so differently based on popularity (Terran Rain was never very popular...).


Just shows to you, GOM doesn't have much of rules or standards to run a tournament, go with the flow, not business like.
Being pragmatic isn't "business-like"?

Rain was a cheesy noob very few people liked. By.Sun is one of the hottest players in the world. Of course GOM wants him in their tournament.
omnipotence...got to get me some of that
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 01 2012 20:05 GMT
#746
I missed most of this thread. IS IT PITCHFORK TIME YET?!?!?!

... but seriously, the games this morning could have used more cowbell. I sure missed Rain, but am stoked to see him play at MLG!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
November 01 2012 20:16 GMT
#747

Do you people keep forgetting that Gom FORCED Rain to play in their league? lol


Yes that's why he got all the way to the semi and then intentionally lost there.
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.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
November 01 2012 20:18 GMT
#748
time for ESF players to threathen with boycotting a kespa event again :D

oh well, im quite enjoying this. anyway, ez money for rain. gogo.
eujjjjj
UndoneJin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States438 Posts
November 01 2012 20:25 GMT
#749
On November 02 2012 03:33 Tachion wrote:
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On November 02 2012 03:24 UndoneJin wrote:
There's no way in hell somebody wouldn't take a shot at Code S, if they can give Soulkey a spot why not JD or one of the other popular Kespa players?

Uhhh JD did get a seed into code S last season >_>


Yeah, and I thought he played pretty danm well all considered. Just using him as an example though, I mainly put it out there just because I hate walkover situations.
I've been lost since the day I was born ----- You're gonna carry that weight
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
November 01 2012 20:30 GMT
#750
KeSPA-MLG deal more importan than GOM?
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
November 01 2012 20:38 GMT
#751
After dropping his GSL run, he has to win this weekend or at the very least 2nd place or it will be a huge fail imo.
Tons of damage
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
November 01 2012 21:02 GMT
#752
hmm...well looks like he's gonna have to get back in to make SKT1 magic happen again
I'm terranfying
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 01 2012 21:04 GMT
#753
On November 02 2012 04:43 amazingoopah wrote:
just gotta say... no one would forfeit a spot in the OSL... just goes to show you how much pros value the GSL at this point.



Careful what you wish for. Wouldn't be surprised if some ESF players refuse to play at the next OSL because of Rain's stunt.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 01 2012 21:08 GMT
#754
On November 01 2012 14:03 Fionn wrote:
If this was Rain's choice, then he has to live by it. But if he honestly forfeited his Code S seed for a CHANCE at winning $25,000 and having to go ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE OPEN BRACKET, then he might be the best player in the world, but not the best decision maker. Hopefully GSL does what they did with (other)Rain and suspend him for a season. Rain was one of the GSL's main stars after S4 and could have been a reason why a lot of people bought a ticket.


You got that right. The hype of last season were the KeSPA players and Rain was the most successful one (building on the hype train) and it's sad to see it come to this.

IMO, this is probably due to MLG + KeSPA partnership, I assume that KeSPA players have to play MLG.

If it were up to me, I'd say keep playing GSL as it is the biggest SC2 tournament right now and the most prestigious.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 01 2012 21:12 GMT
#755
pros definitely value OSL more than any other tournament just because of the historical prestige.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 01 2012 21:13 GMT
#756
Should Gom punish Rain, like suspending him for a season and making him qualify for code A?
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Exya
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada54 Posts
November 01 2012 21:16 GMT
#757
if Rain is training in Kespa regimen (14 hours per day?) he might be able to keep up xd
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2012 21:18 GMT
#758
On November 02 2012 06:12 oneofthem wrote:
pros definitely value OSL more than any other tournament just because of the historical prestige.


OGN players do.

I'm pretty sure many ESF players who have been playing in Code A qualifiers/Code A/Code S for the past two years would much rather win GSL.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 21:22:06
November 01 2012 21:20 GMT
#759
On November 02 2012 06:12 oneofthem wrote:
pros definitely value OSL more than any other tournament just because of the historical prestige.


Maybe in the past but the recent OSL SC2 finals wasn't as packed and smaller than the GSL finals.

GSL built a huge part of the SC2 professional scene and to me, it's more prestigious than the OSL (at least in terms of SC2).

This is partly me being bias against KeSPA though (with how they tried to ruin GSL and stuff).

I definitely want OSL to succeed and to become another premier tournament but alongside with the GSL too.

On November 02 2012 06:18 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 06:12 oneofthem wrote:
pros definitely value OSL more than any other tournament just because of the historical prestige.


OGN players do.

I'm pretty sure many ESF players who have been playing in Code A qualifiers/Code A/Code S for the past two years would much rather win GSL.


Yeah, what you said. Though in any case, personally I'd value GSL or OSL win over an MLG win.

No one remembers MKP winning MLG multiple times (or going head to head with DRG 3 times in a row) but everyone remembers GSL finals.
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Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 21:22:15
November 01 2012 21:21 GMT
#760
This is many money, yes ?
gl rain aniway
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