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Rain forfeits GSL Code S spot in favor of MLG.

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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 06:18:19
November 01 2012 04:58 GMT
#1
Mod Edit

Source: GomTV

Official English Statement

Dear GOMTV.net users,

We have to announce sad news today. SKtelecom_Rain has forfeited his match in the GSL Season 5 Code S Ro32 Group D because of a schedule conflict.

SKtelecom_Rain will be leaving for Dallas (U.S.) to participate in MLG’s Fall Championship, therefore he has forfeited his GSL Code S Ro32 matches and has informed the tournament administration on October 31st.

We have continuously adjusted our schedule for about a year and a half since 2011 MLG Columbus and our tournament administration has changed our schedule to try to accommodate our players’ timetables as much as possible. (Some communities have wondered why some champions have not shown up for the first group of Code S Ro32 and this is the reason why)

To try to minimize the shifting of schedules in the future, we have received the schedules from all managers of teams in the GSL/GSTL in advance so that we can avoid further conflicting tournaments. Players let us know of any upcoming tournaments that they are attending so that we can fix our brackets and broadcasts accordingly. This is revealed to our fans and partners. This last Friday, we have received all the players’ schedules including SK Telecom T1 and we have revealed our schedule last Saturday. (Rain's schedule according SK Telecom 1 included the events: OSL Finals, Blizzard World Championship, and the G-Star in Busan)

However, on October 29th, SK Telecom T1 asked GOMTV if Rain would be able to participate in MLG Dallas and if it would be possible to change our schedule. We have checked all other players' schedules to see if Rain could have played on another day. Because of various other groups of players that we had to shift around due to their already submitted schedules, we were unable to accommodate Rain in this matter.

SK Telecom T1 has ultimately has chosen to send Rain to MLG Dallas and have officially informed us. Therefore, even though we have looked for all possible ways for him to play in both events, our current schedule did not allow us to make it happen.

His match will be handled as a walkover for his opponents and the match schedule will be adjusted as follows. This does not mean that he is out of the GSL. He will be given the 4th place of Code S Ro32 Group D and is now placed in the Code A Round 1 bracket.


Source: GomTV

The short, paraphrased version of KR statement.

Rain will not be participating in Code S due to a scheduling conflict with his flight to MLG Dallas.

GomTV has always been working hard to fix schedule conflicts so that players could compete in foreign tournaments, and that is sometimes why you've seen the previous champion not play a match on opening day of a new season. Before GomTV confirms and announces its schedules, we receive schedules of the participating players from the management of the teams.

For this season, GomTV had also received schedules for the participating players including Rain by last Friday, and the announced the official schedules on Saturday. (SK T1 sent us information for Rain competing in the OSL finals, the Blizzard World Championship, and one other minor event).

However, on the 29th, around the opening match of the new season, SK T1 confirmed participation in MLG and sent us an inquiry about changing the schedule. In order to accomodate Rain, we checked the schedules of the players in other groups, but the other players were also tied up in MLG, ESWC, or other tournaments. We could not change Rain's schedule without interfering with the participation of players in other tournaments, and informed SKT1 that we could not change his schedule.

Thus, SK Telecom chose MLG between the two tournaments, and though we though about schedule changing till the end, it was impossible. According to the rules, Rain has been walked over in his group, and he will be sent to Code A round one as 4th place in his group.





http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/12fyg9/rain_to_forfeit_code_s_tonight/


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Before you guys strictly blame KeSPA for this, don't forget they still have a lot of players who are currently competing in the GSL. KeSPA is also partnered with MLG currently as well. This very well could have been strictly Rain's decision... or not.



Feel free to translate:
http://www.pgr21.com/zboard4/zboard.php?id=free2&no=49153
http://kr.gomtv.net/gsl/community/index.gom?submod=1010&m=4&mbid=10002&mode=view&msgid=13198&p=1
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 18:35:24
November 01 2012 04:59 GMT
#2
Couldn't he have flown to MLG after playing his Code S match?
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
November 01 2012 05:00 GMT
#3
Oh wow...
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 01 2012 05:00 GMT
#4
Should probably add something to your post to make this worthwhile.
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 01 2012 05:00 GMT
#5
Pretty fucking obvious what happened here, and anyone claiming the contrary is blind or just oblivious.
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freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
November 01 2012 05:01 GMT
#6
well he probably wants to visit america, and it's easier money. makes sense.
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Akio00
Profile Joined January 2011
United States98 Posts
November 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#7
*Grabs Popcorn*

Drama time!
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
November 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#8
wow...that's awful.
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
November 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#9
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:02:57
November 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#10
WTF...such a dumb decision. This is a 100% Kespa decision too because players have no control on what tournaments they play in. They follow what kespa decides. Players don't have the freedom to decide on what tournaments to play in on their own. Never have with Kespa.
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BgSBendeR
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada170 Posts
November 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#11
Here comes the massive assumptions. . .
Seriously, my take on this is that he heard from his team mates who attended the KeSPA invitational tournament how awesome foreign fans are and so decided to take part in Open bracket of MLG.
For every minute you are angry you lose sixty seconds of happiness.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 07:25:30
November 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#12
On November 01 2012 13:59 Zzoram wrote:
I hope KeSPA didn't force him to do this. Using their MLG partnership as an excuse to bail on GSL is devious as hell.

Couldn't he have flown to MLG after playing his Code S match?

With more details now at hand, my previous opinion no longer reflects my current one. It is no longer relevant and is thus removed
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 01 2012 05:02 GMT
#13
let's not get ahead of ourselves people..
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
November 01 2012 05:03 GMT
#14
This is all Kespa doing what a joke
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:04:24
November 01 2012 05:03 GMT
#15
If this was Rain's choice, then he has to live by it. But if he honestly forfeited his Code S seed for a CHANCE at winning $25,000 and having to go ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE OPEN BRACKET, then he might be the best player in the world, but not the best decision maker. Hopefully GSL does what they did with (other)Rain and suspend him for a season. Rain was one of the GSL's main stars after S4 and could have been a reason why a lot of people bought a ticket.

I guess making a big name for himself in America is a good move, and he does have WCS Global Finals also this month that he might have put more priority on than Code S, but it seems like a foolish move. If he was in group play, I can maybe see it, but what happens if he rolls MC in the OB, loses a PvP and then has to win 30 matches in a row to even make Championship Sunday?

Edit: I just realized this is the second time in history a player has given up their Code S seed willingly. BOTH WERE NAMED RAIN.
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BgSBendeR
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada170 Posts
November 01 2012 05:04 GMT
#16
On November 01 2012 14:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
This is all Kespa doing what a joke

Stop making up facts . . .
It could have very well been his own decision. . .
For every minute you are angry you lose sixty seconds of happiness.
DevilofDeath
Profile Joined February 2011
United States73 Posts
November 01 2012 05:04 GMT
#17
I can't see this as a bad thing. Remember how many GSL players previously would forfeit code S spots just to travel? Its a good experience for the players and in this case its KeSPA getting out. KeSPA getting global is good for eSports.

Definitely not a "F*ck the GSL and eSF" move by Rain, he probably wanted to play abroad.
hey guys can you give me more crystal stuffs?
SeismiC
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada23 Posts
November 01 2012 05:05 GMT
#18
There's no way this ends well.
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
November 01 2012 05:05 GMT
#19
...The fuck? Seriously? Was really looking forward to watching him tonight.

Who cares if he can style on 100 foreigner scrubs in a row, I want to watch him in the #1 tournament in the world.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 14:49:49
November 01 2012 05:05 GMT
#20
On November 01 2012 14:04 BgSBendeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
This is all Kespa doing what a joke

Stop making up facts . . .
It could have very well been his own decision. . .


Yea and Bill Clinton never had sexual relation with Monica Lewinsky
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