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Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
November 23 2012 00:59 GMT
#1061
On November 23 2012 09:09 Incanus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 08:44 docvoc wrote:
On November 23 2012 08:38 neoghaleon55 wrote:
lmao
karma


Thats what I was thinking.
This is the rundown of what happened
  • *in a KeSPA backroom* let's have Rain go against those losers at MLG, he will no doubt win and also cause harm to the GOM franchise by not participating, thus showing that MLG is more important!
  • Gets his butt kicked at MLG way before the final 4

  • *in a KeSPA backroom* Drat! He will surely not lose to some no name terran and drop to code B!
  • Gets beaten by a terran and drops to code B


MLG Dallas was the most premier and hardest tournament to date (missing only maybe MVP, but he's not in optimal condition right now) and Rain finished JUST before the final 4. That is by no means a failure.


Losing to Dream 2-0 and getting knocked out of code A is.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
November 23 2012 01:55 GMT
#1062
from possibly the best Protoss in the world to out of GSL. Damn shame.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 23 2012 02:12 GMT
#1063
traveling to Dallas > Korea > China > Korea took its toll imo

travel time between Korea and China isn't that much but it still takes additional time and energy to get prepared and settled down during travel
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
November 23 2012 02:19 GMT
#1064
Ah, I love it when silly decisions backfire:

- If it was Rain's decision, serves him right.

- If it was Kespa's decision, I hope this leads to discontent amongst the players.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
November 23 2012 05:09 GMT
#1065
On November 23 2012 09:59 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:09 Incanus wrote:
On November 23 2012 08:44 docvoc wrote:
On November 23 2012 08:38 neoghaleon55 wrote:
lmao
karma


Thats what I was thinking.
This is the rundown of what happened
  • *in a KeSPA backroom* let's have Rain go against those losers at MLG, he will no doubt win and also cause harm to the GOM franchise by not participating, thus showing that MLG is more important!
  • Gets his butt kicked at MLG way before the final 4

  • *in a KeSPA backroom* Drat! He will surely not lose to some no name terran and drop to code B!
  • Gets beaten by a terran and drops to code B


MLG Dallas was the most premier and hardest tournament to date (missing only maybe MVP, but he's not in optimal condition right now) and Rain finished JUST before the final 4. That is by no means a failure.


Losing to Dream 2-0 and getting knocked out of code A is.


and what if Dream makes it into Code S this season?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 23 2012 05:14 GMT
#1066
On November 23 2012 09:59 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:09 Incanus wrote:
On November 23 2012 08:44 docvoc wrote:
On November 23 2012 08:38 neoghaleon55 wrote:
lmao
karma


Thats what I was thinking.
This is the rundown of what happened
  • *in a KeSPA backroom* let's have Rain go against those losers at MLG, he will no doubt win and also cause harm to the GOM franchise by not participating, thus showing that MLG is more important!
  • Gets his butt kicked at MLG way before the final 4

  • *in a KeSPA backroom* Drat! He will surely not lose to some no name terran and drop to code B!
  • Gets beaten by a terran and drops to code B


MLG Dallas was the most premier and hardest tournament to date (missing only maybe MVP, but he's not in optimal condition right now) and Rain finished JUST before the final 4. That is by no means a failure.


Losing to Dream 2-0 and getting knocked out of code A is.


I imagine he'll get right back in, assuming he doesn't travel or anything when next GSL qualifiers happen.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 23 2012 05:15 GMT
#1067
when you guys are talking about karma and shit, Rain is probably chilling on some beach, enjoying his off season vacation.
Yeah I doubt he cares that much about these SAB, eSF, KeSPA, conspiracy, whatever.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
November 23 2012 05:21 GMT
#1068
On November 23 2012 14:15 Arceus wrote:
when you guys are talking about karma and shit, Rain is probably chilling on some beach, enjoying his off season vacation.
Yeah I doubt he cares that much about these SAB, eSF, KeSPA, conspiracy, whatever.


except he's not allowed outside...
did you forget he's owned by kespa?
moo...for DRG
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
November 23 2012 05:23 GMT
#1069
On November 23 2012 14:21 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:15 Arceus wrote:
when you guys are talking about karma and shit, Rain is probably chilling on some beach, enjoying his off season vacation.
Yeah I doubt he cares that much about these SAB, eSF, KeSPA, conspiracy, whatever.


except he's not allowed outside...
did you forget he's owned by kespa?


Which explains why he has been able to play in tournaments that aren't Proleague?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 23 2012 05:25 GMT
#1070
Some people worry- I don't. I'm sad that this is just one less chance for other people to come up to Code A, because Rain is gonna take a qualifier spot
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33708 Posts
November 23 2012 05:29 GMT
#1071
It was a terrible thing in retrospect, but I dunno why ppl are so quick to pin it on someone. As far as we know, it could have been anyone's fault; rain for deciding at the last second, SKTelecom for taking care of matters too slowly, KeSPA for making a sudden decision. And seeing as this happened inside a KeSPA team, we'll never know the truth.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 23 2012 05:30 GMT
#1072
On November 23 2012 14:21 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:15 Arceus wrote:
when you guys are talking about karma and shit, Rain is probably chilling on some beach, enjoying his off season vacation.
Yeah I doubt he cares that much about these SAB, eSF, KeSPA, conspiracy, whatever.


except he's not allowed outside...
did you forget he's owned by kespa?

as far as I know, Korean companies are pretty generous in term of workers' benefits. It goes like this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=268286
or this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101609
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
November 23 2012 05:30 GMT
#1073
On November 23 2012 14:23 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:21 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On November 23 2012 14:15 Arceus wrote:
when you guys are talking about karma and shit, Rain is probably chilling on some beach, enjoying his off season vacation.
Yeah I doubt he cares that much about these SAB, eSF, KeSPA, conspiracy, whatever.


except he's not allowed outside...
did you forget he's owned by kespa?


Which explains why he has been able to play in tournaments that aren't Proleague?




He was sent because of

1. Proleague off season


2. mlg-kespa partnership


Kespa's number 1 priority is proleague. They wont send him

to events like ipl, dreamhack and etc during proleague (not sure about mlg).

Also kespa doesnt really give shit about players' individual leagues. Bisu even complained

about not being given enough time to practice for individual leagues because the team wanted

players to focus on proleague.
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
November 23 2012 05:49 GMT
#1074
On November 23 2012 09:09 Incanus wrote:
MLG Dallas was the most premier and hardest tournament to date (missing only maybe MVP, but he's not in optimal condition right now)


Nope that still belongs to the GSL. I had a look at the top 30 players from the 2012 GSL Rankings...

These are the players who participated at MLG Dallas
+ Show Spoiler +

Life
MC
TaeJa
HerO
Leenock
Rain
NaNiwa
Polt


These are the players who did not
+ Show Spoiler +

Mvp
DongRaeGu
Seed
Squirtle
Genius
PartinG
Ryung
MarineKing
Sniper
GuMiho
Symbol
HyuN
ByuN
INnoVation
aLive
SuperNoVa
Curious
NesTea
Creator
MMA
Happy
Maru


Kind of paints a little picture on how much harder that tournament could've been imo
stuff & things
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
November 23 2012 06:06 GMT
#1075
On November 23 2012 14:49 6BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 09:09 Incanus wrote:
MLG Dallas was the most premier and hardest tournament to date (missing only maybe MVP, but he's not in optimal condition right now)


Nope that still belongs to the GSL. I had a look at the top 30 players from the 2012 GSL Rankings...

These are the players who participated at MLG Dallas
+ Show Spoiler +

Life
MC
TaeJa
HerO
Leenock
Rain
NaNiwa
Polt


These are the players who did not
+ Show Spoiler +

Mvp
DongRaeGu
Seed
Squirtle
Genius
PartinG
Ryung
MarineKing
Sniper
GuMiho
Symbol
HyuN
ByuN
INnoVation
aLive
SuperNoVa
Curious
NesTea
Creator
MMA
Happy
Maru


Kind of paints a little picture on how much harder that tournament could've been imo


A lot of the casters during MLG kept emphasizing that it was the hardest MLG to date, the most packed with Koreans and the most top tier talent they've ever had at an MLG. Those are obviously objective statements; but people bought it anyway after they hear things like "that open bracket has players like Rain, MC, Polt!!" or "the elephants are finally playing in the main tournament!!" Which is completely fine - if you're talking strictly about MLG. The problem is when people take it too far and say that it was harder/tougher/more competitive than any tournament EVER.

Please.

Objective comments like "MLG was the most entertaining tournament to date, because my favorite matches to watch are Koreans (especially elephants!) playing vs Foreigners, and MLG provided that!" are very much welcome. But let's be honest here, even Code A is 'harder' than MLG.
MikeMM
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation221 Posts
November 23 2012 06:20 GMT
#1076
Why everybody is so sure that Rain would have advanced from his Code S group and wouldn’t have played against Dream in Code A in any way?
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
November 23 2012 07:11 GMT
#1077
On November 23 2012 15:20 MikeMM wrote:
Why everybody is so sure that Rain would have advanced from his Code S group and wouldn’t have played against Dream in Code A in any way?

He only would have had to get 3rd in his group in order to be secured at least Code A next season but since he forfeited he was sent to the elimination round.

Nobody is saying he would have advanced, just that his chances to not get Code B would be much higher if he skipped MLG.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 23 2012 07:25 GMT
#1078
On November 23 2012 15:06 Xpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2012 14:49 6BiT wrote:
On November 23 2012 09:09 Incanus wrote:
MLG Dallas was the most premier and hardest tournament to date (missing only maybe MVP, but he's not in optimal condition right now)


Nope that still belongs to the GSL. I had a look at the top 30 players from the 2012 GSL Rankings...

These are the players who participated at MLG Dallas
+ Show Spoiler +

Life
MC
TaeJa
HerO
Leenock
Rain
NaNiwa
Polt


These are the players who did not
+ Show Spoiler +

Mvp
DongRaeGu
Seed
Squirtle
Genius
PartinG
Ryung
MarineKing
Sniper
GuMiho
Symbol
HyuN
ByuN
INnoVation
aLive
SuperNoVa
Curious
NesTea
Creator
MMA
Happy
Maru


Kind of paints a little picture on how much harder that tournament could've been imo


A lot of the casters during MLG kept emphasizing that it was the hardest MLG to date, the most packed with Koreans and the most top tier talent they've ever had at an MLG. Those are obviously objective statements; but people bought it anyway after they hear things like "that open bracket has players like Rain, MC, Polt!!" or "the elephants are finally playing in the main tournament!!" Which is completely fine - if you're talking strictly about MLG. The problem is when people take it too far and say that it was harder/tougher/more competitive than any tournament EVER.

Please.

Objective comments like "MLG was the most entertaining tournament to date, because my favorite matches to watch are Koreans (especially elephants!) playing vs Foreigners, and MLG provided that!" are very much welcome. But let's be honest here, even Code A is 'harder' than MLG.

You mean subjective don't you
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 23 2012 07:33 GMT
#1079
Why am I not surprised...
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
November 23 2012 08:26 GMT
#1080
On November 23 2012 15:06 Xpace wrote:
A lot of the casters during MLG kept emphasizing that it was the hardest MLG to date, the most packed with Koreans and the most top tier talent they've ever had at an MLG. Those are obviously objective statements; but people bought it anyway after they hear things like "that open bracket has players like Rain, MC, Polt!!" or "the elephants are finally playing in the main tournament!!" Which is completely fine - if you're talking strictly about MLG. The problem is when people take it too far and say that it was harder/tougher/more competitive than any tournament EVER.

Please.

Objective comments like "MLG was the most entertaining tournament to date, because my favorite matches to watch are Koreans (especially elephants!) playing vs Foreigners, and MLG provided that!" are very much welcome. But let's be honest here, even Code A is 'harder' than MLG.


True lol, I myself watched this tournament for a different reasons.

My 2 were..

"Life just royal roaded Code S and is going to MLG, oh shit!"

"Flash is competing at mlg, he is in groups. This is actually happening..."

Though to be honest, I don't know if MLG will top Boxer going to Anaheim.
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