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Rain forfeits GSL Code S spot in favor of MLG. - Page 2

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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#21
What the FUCK is this?
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#22
What. I like, what?
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#23
On November 01 2012 14:03 Fionn wrote:
If this was Rain's choice, then he has to live by it. But if he honestly forfeited his Code S seed for a CHANCE at winning $25,000 and having to go ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE OPEN BRACKET, then he might be the best player in the world, but not the best decision maker. Hopefully GSL does what they did with (other)Rain and suspend him for a season. Rain was one of the GSL's main stars after S4 and could have been a reason why a lot of people bought a ticket.

I guess making a big name for himself in America is a good move, and he does have WCS Global Finals also this month that he might have put more priority on than Code S, but it seems like a foolish move. If he was in group play, I can maybe see it, but what happens if he rolls MC in the OB, loses a PvP and then has to win 30 matches in a row to even make Championship Sunday?

Edit: I just realized this is the second time in history a player has given up their Code S seed willingly. BOTH WERE NAMED RAIN.


I thought they suspended Rain for a year not a season. And Idra also gave up Code S willingly, so 3 players?
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Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#24
On November 01 2012 14:04 DevilofDeath wrote:
I can't see this as a bad thing. Remember how many GSL players previously would forfeit code S spots just to travel? Its a good experience for the players and in this case its KeSPA getting out. KeSPA getting global is good for eSports.

Definitely not a "F*ck the GSL and eSF" move by Rain, he probably wanted to play abroad.


it's kind of "fuck the gsl and esf" considering he had a seed into code S and has to go through an open bracket at mlg
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#25
Goddamnit.

GSL is still the best league. C'mon Rain.
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5770 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#26
On November 01 2012 14:03 Fionn wrote:
Edit: I just realized this is the second time in history a player has given up their Code S seed willingly. BOTH WERE NAMED RAIN.

IdrA did the same.
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raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#27
Curse of the name rain??
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
November 01 2012 05:06 GMT
#28
Anyone who thinks this isn't serious is fooling themselves. Time to start digging up all of the eSF/KeSPA topics...
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:07:17
November 01 2012 05:07 GMT
#29
On November 01 2012 14:04 DevilofDeath wrote:
I can't see this as a bad thing. Remember how many GSL players previously would forfeit code S spots just to travel? Its a good experience for the players and in this case its KeSPA getting out. KeSPA getting global is good for eSports.

Definitely not a "F*ck the GSL and eSF" move by Rain, he probably wanted to play abroad.


In the history of the GSL, I believe only four players have forfeited Code S.

Idra, Rain, Coca and Rain. Coca was forced to forfeit.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:08:18
November 01 2012 05:07 GMT
#30
On November 01 2012 14:04 BgSBendeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
This is all Kespa doing what a joke

Stop making up facts . . .
It could have very well been his own decision. . .


It's not making up facts. It's pretty much proven Kespa controls their players and they can't just decide on what tournaments to play on their own. Why do you think last time when all the kespa players were asked if they were going to play in code a qualifiers every single one of them said, I want to, but it's up to my team to decide. Kespa players do not have free will.
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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:09:36
November 01 2012 05:07 GMT
#31
I doubt it's anything more than him underestimating the Open Bracket and figuring it's free money... as far as I know, Rain has zero experience in a "play all fucking day" format like MLG, and he's never made this big a trip, so he might be underestimating the challenge.

edit: I know KeSPA blah blah blah but do you really think they're stupid enough to take their best player, the player that is the best case for confirming the "OMG KESPA PLAYERS SO FUCKING GOOD" belief, out of GSL? if the other KeSPA players were leaving GSL, sure, but they wouldn't pull their best shot at making GOM/ESF look bad, they're not that stupid.
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Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:08:33
November 01 2012 05:07 GMT
#32
WHAT THE FUCK!

EDIT: WILL HE AT LEAST BE IN ROUND 1 CODE A??
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tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 05:14:23
November 01 2012 05:07 GMT
#33
Edit: i was wrong, nvm
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2012 05:07 GMT
#34
On November 01 2012 14:06 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 14:03 Fionn wrote:
If this was Rain's choice, then he has to live by it. But if he honestly forfeited his Code S seed for a CHANCE at winning $25,000 and having to go ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE OPEN BRACKET, then he might be the best player in the world, but not the best decision maker. Hopefully GSL does what they did with (other)Rain and suspend him for a season. Rain was one of the GSL's main stars after S4 and could have been a reason why a lot of people bought a ticket.

I guess making a big name for himself in America is a good move, and he does have WCS Global Finals also this month that he might have put more priority on than Code S, but it seems like a foolish move. If he was in group play, I can maybe see it, but what happens if he rolls MC in the OB, loses a PvP and then has to win 30 matches in a row to even make Championship Sunday?

Edit: I just realized this is the second time in history a player has given up their Code S seed willingly. BOTH WERE NAMED RAIN.


I thought they suspended Rain for a year not a season. And Idra also gave up Code S willingly, so 3 players?


Yeah, forgot Idra for a second.

And I believe Rain got banned for two seasons. Idra didn't get banned since he left for America and didn't return to Korea for a year.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 01 2012 05:08 GMT
#35
What the fuuuuuuuck
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 01 2012 05:08 GMT
#36
Would be funny if he bombs out in the OB.
vandelayindustries
Profile Joined August 2011
United States290 Posts
November 01 2012 05:09 GMT
#37
All conspiracy-theorizing aside, what happens with tonight's group? Do only 3 players play? If so then does Hyun get a bye into the winners' match?
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
November 01 2012 05:09 GMT
#38
Smh. Tonights Code S ruined. I hope gom enacts harsh punishments for such (presumably) short notice. Like 2-3 seasons. Such a shame Rain is a geniune hope for the MLG championship, because I'd love to see him fall far short now.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 01 2012 05:10 GMT
#39
Ugh sad that their is gonna be drama because of this.

Rain is not the first player to forfeit a GSL match due to another tournament. Hell I remember Leenock was gonna forfeit his spot in Up and Downs if he didn't win his Code A match.

We live in a scene where tournaments overlap with each other all the time. Players give up spots in one to compete in another. Remember when Hero ditched WCS to play in MLG? This stuff just happens.
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IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
November 01 2012 05:10 GMT
#40
I can't believe they can't work around his schedule like they do for other players.
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