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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 01 2012 18:59 GMT
#721
Smart decision, now he can get easy cash for beating up some scrubby foreigners.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
November 01 2012 19:01 GMT
#722
On November 02 2012 03:59 iamho wrote:
Smart decision, now he can get easy cash for beating up some scrubby foreigners.

No one that has ever won money at an MLG has ever claimed that earning said money was easy. So take your scrubby logic elsewhere.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
November 01 2012 19:04 GMT
#723
You are seriously deluded if you think the competition at MLG is even 1/10th as good as it in GSL.
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 19:11:11
November 01 2012 19:04 GMT
#724
On November 02 2012 04:01 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 03:59 iamho wrote:
Smart decision, now he can get easy cash for beating up some scrubby foreigners.

No one that has ever won money at an MLG has ever claimed that earning said money was easy. So take your scrubby logic elsewhere.


Foreigners are scrubs, that's true. But it is still not easy to win, just because plenty of good Koreans are in this tournament. This is still the favorite foreign tournaments for Koreans.

So I don't think he's thinking it is an easy tournament to win, it is just they prefer MLG, because they have a contract with MLG, and also it is a paid reward vacation for Rain from SKT after his OSL win. So, actually I think he will probably get eliminated very early, just because his mind is not to win.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 01 2012 19:07 GMT
#725
Rain got off veeery lightly. Any lesser of a player would have been suspended from GSL for a few seasons or at the very least, kicked out of all of GSL and had to go through preliminaries like everyone else. The fact that he got relegated to only Code A is a very light punishment.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 01 2012 19:24 GMT
#726
On November 02 2012 04:07 Incomplet wrote:
Rain got off veeery lightly. Any lesser of a player would have been suspended from GSL for a few seasons or at the very least, kicked out of all of GSL and had to go through preliminaries like everyone else. The fact that he got relegated to only Code A is a very light punishment.


Yeah. It's actually a silly double standard. It's somewhat fun, because the last guy who did this had the same name, and got suspended for 2 seasons and completely thrown out of the tournament, but that's only a fun coincidence with the Rain name, in reality it's quite saddening that they treat people so differently based on popularity (Terran Rain was never very popular...).
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
November 01 2012 19:25 GMT
#727
On November 02 2012 04:04 iamho wrote:
You are seriously deluded if you think the competition at MLG is even 1/10th as good as it in GSL.

It isn't a question of explicit talent in competition; it is a question of tournament format, and when it comes down to it, MLG is the toughest format in Sc2, at least insofar as major tournaments are concerned. The GSL, by virtue of its emphasis on extended preparation against a select few players, is perhaps the best means of ascertaining plain 1v1 skill; the tournament format itself provides little inherent obstacle. MLG, on the other hand, adds in a healthy test of endurance, repetitive stress, and consistency, leading to an end result of a tournament that highlights the players best able to "outlast" the competition. The moral of the story? This ain't easy money, no matter how you look at it.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
November 01 2012 19:27 GMT
#728
He's young! He wants to travel to a county he's never been ) I can understand... but... My TL bets >o<!!!
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acidfreak
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania352 Posts
November 01 2012 19:28 GMT
#729
On November 02 2012 04:01 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 03:59 iamho wrote:
Smart decision, now he can get easy cash for beating up some scrubby foreigners.

No one that has ever won money at an MLG has ever claimed that earning said money was easy. So take your scrubby logic elsewhere.


True, but no one compared MLG to GSL. Compared to GSL, MLG is not even on the chart in pure skill of players. The main difference though is the preparation time for matches, witch makes comparing the two not so easy.
You can't out-think the swarm, you can't out-maneuver the swarm, and you certainly can't break the morale of the swarm.
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 19:31:12
November 01 2012 19:28 GMT
#730
On November 02 2012 04:24 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 04:07 Incomplet wrote:
Rain got off veeery lightly. Any lesser of a player would have been suspended from GSL for a few seasons or at the very least, kicked out of all of GSL and had to go through preliminaries like everyone else. The fact that he got relegated to only Code A is a very light punishment.


Yeah. It's actually a silly double standard. It's somewhat fun, because the last guy who did this had the same name, and got suspended for 2 seasons and completely thrown out of the tournament, but that's only a fun coincidence with the Rain name, in reality it's quite saddening that they treat people so differently based on popularity (Terran Rain was never very popular...).


Just shows to you, GOM doesn't have much of rules or standards to run a tournament, go with the flow, not business like.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
Decado
Profile Joined October 2012
United States42 Posts
November 01 2012 19:41 GMT
#731
On November 02 2012 04:07 Incomplet wrote:
Rain got off veeery lightly. Any lesser of a player would have been suspended from GSL for a few seasons or at the very least, kicked out of all of GSL and had to go through preliminaries like everyone else. The fact that he got relegated to only Code A is a very light punishment.



Do you people keep forgetting that Gom FORCED Rain to play in their league? lol



They threw a fit when the Kespa players said they wouldn't play in the GSL for a few seasons.
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
November 01 2012 19:43 GMT
#732
just gotta say... no one would forfeit a spot in the OSL... just goes to show you how much pros value the GSL at this point.

also, Flash vs Grubby... that´s like Michael Jordan facing off against Babe Ruth in a legendary matchup.
executorx
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany81 Posts
November 01 2012 19:43 GMT
#733
that's sad, he was my non-terran favourite.

HF and GL @ MLG
INnoVation > ALL!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
November 01 2012 19:45 GMT
#734
On November 02 2012 04:43 amazingoopah wrote:
just gotta say... no one would forfeit a spot in the OSL... just goes to show you how much pros value the GSL at this point.

also, Flash vs Grubby... that´s like Michael Jordan facing off against Babe Ruth in a legendary matchup.

Which one is which, and is Sc2 basketball or baseball? These are important questions....
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
November 01 2012 19:47 GMT
#735
On November 02 2012 04:45 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 04:43 amazingoopah wrote:
just gotta say... no one would forfeit a spot in the OSL... just goes to show you how much pros value the GSL at this point.

also, Flash vs Grubby... that´s like Michael Jordan facing off against Babe Ruth in a legendary matchup.

Which one is which, and is Sc2 basketball or baseball? These are important questions....


Babe Ruth = Flash
Michael Jordan = Grubby

and SC2 is scrabble
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 01 2012 19:47 GMT
#736
On November 02 2012 04:41 Decado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 04:07 Incomplet wrote:
Rain got off veeery lightly. Any lesser of a player would have been suspended from GSL for a few seasons or at the very least, kicked out of all of GSL and had to go through preliminaries like everyone else. The fact that he got relegated to only Code A is a very light punishment.



Do you people keep forgetting that Gom FORCED Rain to play in their league? lol



They threw a fit when the Kespa players said they wouldn't play in the GSL for a few seasons.


Your post is entirely incorrect. You are mixing up organisations and people. I don't think there's a single correct fact in your post, actually. Try again please.
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
November 01 2012 19:51 GMT
#737
On November 02 2012 04:47 amazingoopah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 04:45 farvacola wrote:
On November 02 2012 04:43 amazingoopah wrote:
just gotta say... no one would forfeit a spot in the OSL... just goes to show you how much pros value the GSL at this point.

also, Flash vs Grubby... that´s like Michael Jordan facing off against Babe Ruth in a legendary matchup.

Which one is which, and is Sc2 basketball or baseball? These are important questions....


Babe Ruth = Flash
Michael Jordan = Grubby

and SC2 is scrabble


SC2 being softball could be a better analogy.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 01 2012 19:55 GMT
#738
On November 02 2012 04:41 Decado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 04:07 Incomplet wrote:
Rain got off veeery lightly. Any lesser of a player would have been suspended from GSL for a few seasons or at the very least, kicked out of all of GSL and had to go through preliminaries like everyone else. The fact that he got relegated to only Code A is a very light punishment.



Do you people keep forgetting that Gom FORCED Rain to play in their league? lol



They threw a fit when the Kespa players said they wouldn't play in the GSL for a few seasons.


The idea that pro-gamers wouldn't want to play in a tournament in their home country with a high prize pool and were forced to is laughable.

Should we also believe that Mr. Chae held a gun to Rain's head throughout every round, forcing him to play in every round? I expect Rain cheered and celebrated when he was finally eliminated by MVP. Thank God he didn't have to play for $50,000!
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
November 01 2012 19:55 GMT
#739
On November 02 2012 04:43 amazingoopah wrote:
just gotta say... no one would forfeit a spot in the OSL... just goes to show you how much pros value the GSL at this point.



It's Rain's problem , not GSL's. He probably think he is not going to get far in the tournament. Last OSL was not that impressive in terms of quality anyway. Many good players were out early because of the silly BO1 format (or that they didn't care enough).
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-01 19:59:24
November 01 2012 19:58 GMT
#740
I don't see why anyone is valuing OSL over GSL at the moment. GSL had a bigger crowd at their finals.

Mostly because Mr. Chae knows how to draw a huge foreign base. OSL puts on terrible laggy streams, lag VOD's, and has shown they are inept so far when dealing with a foreign audience. GSL even has a bigger prize pool. You could use the whole OSL is more prestigious thing, but that was Brood War and we're in a new game now.

I will give OSL the edge in the trophy department.
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