NASL invites DRG, MMA, Violet and Taeja to S4 - Page 15

On September 02 2012 08:57 BathTubNZ wrote:
I guess they waived the team requirement.

On September 02 2012 09:00 Dexington wrote:


It was always a team/sponsorship requirement, iirc. That's why players like White-Ra were allowed to play every season. Although I am confused about Morrow.

On September 02 2012 10:57 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I always laugh when idiots ask why people get invites... Some players get massive viewership, most of the time they are the best players and NASL went and picked fan favorites/best players and people still bitch.

qualifying =/= best skill, a lucky bo3 where someone goes 11/11rax twice and manages to luck out of 10pool 10pool in a zvz can close out a top player with a mediocre player and then we get an entire tournament of mediocre players... Invites = good thing.

On September 02 2012 11:57 Gatesleeper wrote:
Okay, maybe you guys can get by trying to justify MMA as one of the top 4 players to get invited, but Naniwa as the fifth? Now you're really stretching.

Either dozens of people declined your invitations or your ranking system is truly flawed. Or did you just say "fuck it" and decide to invite a player you wanted to see in the NASL? Not that there's anything wrong with that, I think Naniwa is a good choice from a fan perspective.

http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2012

There's the list for prize money winners from only this year. Your list should roughly line up with that list, no?
A f few of the top 10 are already in the NASL: MC, Stephano, Alive. You invited DRG, Violet, MMA, and Taeja. MKP and Nerchio turned down invites.

The highest player on the money list after that is MVP (#6). You explain that other than his GSL win and IEM win, MVP has not had a prolific tournament life in 2012. His GSL win skews his money ranking list because the 1st place prize of ~44k is huge compared to 1st place prizes of other tournaments. The same is true for Seed (#7), whose GSL winnings account for 95% of all the prize money he's earned. And since your system ranks GSL performance on the same tier as other premier tournaments, it makes sense that a single GSL season win would not automatically shoot you to the top of the system rankings. (Whether or not that it should is another debate)

That's well and good, but what about some other players like:
Squirtle (#8) - IPL4 - 2nd place, GSL - 2nd place, Red Bull - 4th place, WCS Korea - 2nd place
Leenock (#15) - MLG Summer Champ, 9th place at Spring Championship, 3 Code S seasons this year
Scarlett (#16) - WCS Canada winner, WCS North American winner

I could go on, but the point is that Naniwa is #44 on the money list for 2012, how did he get the 5th invite? Also curious that Nerchio is #18 in the money list but was above MMA on the invite list.

On September 02 2012 11:57 Gatesleeper wrote:
Okay, maybe you guys can get by trying to justify MMA as one of the top 4 players to get invited, but Naniwa as the fifth? Now you're really stretching.

Either dozens of people declined your invitations or your ranking system is truly flawed. Or did you just say "fuck it" and decide to invite a player you wanted to see in the NASL? Not that there's anything wrong with that, I think Naniwa is a good choice from a fan perspective.

http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2012

There's the list for prize money winners from only this year. Your list should roughly line up with that list, no?
A f few of the top 10 are already in the NASL: MC, Stephano, Alive. You invited DRG, Violet, MMA, and Taeja. MKP and Nerchio turned down invites.

The highest player on the money list after that is MVP (#6). You explain that other than his GSL win and IEM win, MVP has not had a prolific tournament life in 2012. His GSL win skews his money ranking list because the 1st place prize of ~44k is huge compared to 1st place prizes of other tournaments. The same is true for Seed (#7), whose GSL winnings account for 95% of all the prize money he's earned. And since your system ranks GSL performance on the same tier as other premier tournaments, it makes sense that a single GSL season win would not automatically shoot you to the top of the system rankings. (Whether or not that it should is another debate)

That's well and good, but what about some other players like:
Squirtle (#8) - IPL4 - 2nd place, GSL - 2nd place, Red Bull - 4th place, WCS Korea - 2nd place
Leenock (#15) - MLG Summer Champ, 9th place at Spring Championship, 3 Code S seasons this year
Scarlett (#16) - WCS Canada winner, WCS North American winner

I could go on, but the point is that Naniwa is #44 on the money list for 2012, how did he get the 5th invite? Also curious that Nerchio is #18 in the money list but was above MMA on the invite list.

On August 31 2012 00:53 Yonnua wrote:
I make it something along the lines of:

1. MC ~2500
2. Violet ~1700
3. Stephano ~1500
4. DRG ~1450
5. MKP ~1400
6. Taeja ~1250
7. MMA ~1150
8. Alive ~1150
9. Puma ~1150
10. Polt ~1050
11. Hero ~1050
12. Nerchio ~1000
13. Ret ~950
14. Alicia ~900
15. Mvp ~850
16. Oz ~700
17. Naniwa ~700
18. Symbol ~700
19. Nestea ~650
20. Dimaga ~650

But those are only rough because the methodology isn't 100% explicit when it comes to in progress tournaments and how the decay works. Those are just rough values to give some kind of indication.

Which means Mvp might be the secret invite, or it could be Oz or Naniwa.