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NASL invites DRG, MMA, Violet and Taeja to S4 - Page 13

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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
August 31 2012 00:40 GMT
#241
Can someone explain the decay? Is it minus 1 point from EACH achievement or minus 1 point each day for everyone overall?
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Darth Caedus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States326 Posts
August 31 2012 00:53 GMT
#242
Great job NASL. Cool invites that should really help the league continue to grow.

Keep up the good work.
Polt: "Those auto-turrets are cute." 10/26/13 commenting on MMA vs. Maru.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
August 31 2012 00:54 GMT
#243
On August 31 2012 09:40 Luepert wrote:
Can someone explain the decay? Is it minus 1 point from EACH achievement or minus 1 point each day for everyone overall?


-1 each day.

So if you win a tournament, you get 365 points.

1 year later, it will have decayed down to 0.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
August 31 2012 01:00 GMT
#244
On August 31 2012 09:54 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 09:40 Luepert wrote:
Can someone explain the decay? Is it minus 1 point from EACH achievement or minus 1 point each day for everyone overall?


-1 each day.

So if you win a tournament, you get 365 points.

1 year later, it will have decayed down to 0.


This is a little bit pointless isn't it? All it does is punish the first winner a little bit. You guys only pick the top 4, who will always have racked up some points early on because they are good and they would all be affected the same once they all have some points. Pretty sure if you did this without the decay all the top people would end up exactly the same.
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FrodaN
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
754 Posts
August 31 2012 01:13 GMT
#245
On August 31 2012 09:40 Luepert wrote:
Can someone explain the decay? Is it minus 1 point from EACH achievement or minus 1 point each day for everyone overall?


Per day. It's not per event otherwise there is literally no point in awarding top 32.
Toganas
Profile Joined February 2011
United States63 Posts
August 31 2012 01:19 GMT
#246
The decay makes sense as it will allow them to keep the system in the future without having results from the past influence it too heavily. At this point next year, Leenock's current MLG win will have no impact on his standings, but right now he has a lot of points from a recent tournament. People will always complain, but this seems like a good system.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
August 31 2012 01:20 GMT
#247
I hope MMA is back in shape by the time this starts, would suck if he didn't do well
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
August 31 2012 01:22 GMT
#248
On August 31 2012 10:19 Toganas wrote:
The decay makes sense as it will allow them to keep the system in the future without having results from the past influence it too heavily. At this point next year, Leenock's current MLG win will have no impact on his standings, but right now he has a lot of points from a recent tournament. People will always complain, but this seems like a good system.


The top 4 people will always have at lest 1 point right? So if they each lose 1 a day, they will still be in the same order.
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Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
August 31 2012 02:06 GMT
#249
The system they used for invites seems to be a decent way to get more top players into NASL and I think it will really help make the season stronger overall!
Through victory, my chains are broken.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 31 2012 02:18 GMT
#250
On August 31 2012 10:22 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 10:19 Toganas wrote:
The decay makes sense as it will allow them to keep the system in the future without having results from the past influence it too heavily. At this point next year, Leenock's current MLG win will have no impact on his standings, but right now he has a lot of points from a recent tournament. People will always complain, but this seems like a good system.


The top 4 people will always have at lest 1 point right? So if they each lose 1 a day, they will still be in the same order.

assuming no tournaments are played for the next year and that all these players will get eliminated from nasl ur point would matter
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 31 2012 02:25 GMT
#251
On August 31 2012 08:51 Dosey wrote:
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On August 31 2012 08:46 Whatson wrote:
On August 31 2012 03:29 Elem wrote:
Cool. I think you need to admit you kinda bullshitted in MMA though. He's done fuck all this year.

All this year? Really? I call total bullshit.
On August 30 2012 20:09 MrBitter wrote:
On August 30 2012 20:02 Derez wrote:
No way MMA is top 4 on any leaderboard. Only result he has had is Ironsquid and nothing else over 2012.


Won Iron Squid, Won IEM Kiev, 3/4 IEM Cebit, 3/4 IPL 4, 5/8 GSL S1, Top 32 GSL S2, Top 32 Spring Arena #2


We all know half of those events never even occurred and Bitter is just fabricating this information to put another Korean in the NASL.


I was listening to the Bitterdam cast yesterday and at some point they were talking about forming an NASL team. Now, after a thorough investigation literally littered with investigative journalism, I can uncover the truth to the world.

Bitter came up with this system because he is about to land MMA for his team. And the whole of season four is but a smokescreen for getting as much hype for the new team captain and figurehead as possible.

This is according to my sources yo.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
August 31 2012 02:30 GMT
#252
On August 31 2012 09:39 FrodaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 07:44 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I got a question.

Since this is mostly an online tournament, and we don't get to see much footage of the player's faces.
Will you guys be doing interviews or have exclusive footages of these korean players?

Fans want more than just the starcraft screen, they want the star power...which means air time seeing their favorite players' faces/hearing their voices/ and understanding their perspectives.


We agree and have been compiling them in the off-season for about a month now.



Well I'm sold
And I put my money where my post is.
good job, guys.

[image loading]


Those of you on the fence about this, please give NASL another chance.
They seem more legit every season.

And $15.99 is a very good deal for this amount of content.
moo...for DRG
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 03:06:10
August 31 2012 02:34 GMT
#253
nice^ I need to get mine too!! Go NASL and DRG!
Also can we has rematch? + Show Spoiler +
#TheOneTrueDong
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
August 31 2012 02:45 GMT
#254
On August 30 2012 11:59 digmouse wrote:
Why are they still using invites?

Whats wrong with invites. Invites can help ensure that the top level players who are competing for the GSL (actual contenders) will spend the time to go to foreign events. Making them go through a qualifier decreases the odds that they will take the time to go through the process.
QO Feasting
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
August 31 2012 03:26 GMT
#255
On August 31 2012 11:18 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 10:22 Luepert wrote:
On August 31 2012 10:19 Toganas wrote:
The decay makes sense as it will allow them to keep the system in the future without having results from the past influence it too heavily. At this point next year, Leenock's current MLG win will have no impact on his standings, but right now he has a lot of points from a recent tournament. People will always complain, but this seems like a good system.


The top 4 people will always have at lest 1 point right? So if they each lose 1 a day, they will still be in the same order.

assuming no tournaments are played for the next year and that all these players will get eliminated from nasl ur point would matter


I'm talking from a pure ranking system. No top pro would ever get to 0 and since they all have the same decay it will be like there is no decay at all.

So if they always take the top 4, it would never deviate from who the top 4 would be without decay.
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BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
August 31 2012 03:33 GMT
#256
On August 31 2012 12:26 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:18 sam05396 wrote:
On August 31 2012 10:22 Luepert wrote:
On August 31 2012 10:19 Toganas wrote:
The decay makes sense as it will allow them to keep the system in the future without having results from the past influence it too heavily. At this point next year, Leenock's current MLG win will have no impact on his standings, but right now he has a lot of points from a recent tournament. People will always complain, but this seems like a good system.


The top 4 people will always have at lest 1 point right? So if they each lose 1 a day, they will still be in the same order.

assuming no tournaments are played for the next year and that all these players will get eliminated from nasl ur point would matter


I'm talking from a pure ranking system. No top pro would ever get to 0 and since they all have the same decay it will be like there is no decay at all.

So if they always take the top 4, it would never deviate from who the top 4 would be without decay.


Except you don't earn points at the same rate.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 03:40:52
August 31 2012 03:40 GMT
#257
On August 31 2012 11:30 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 09:39 FrodaN wrote:
On August 31 2012 07:44 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I got a question.

Since this is mostly an online tournament, and we don't get to see much footage of the player's faces.
Will you guys be doing interviews or have exclusive footages of these korean players?

Fans want more than just the starcraft screen, they want the star power...which means air time seeing their favorite players' faces/hearing their voices/ and understanding their perspectives.


We agree and have been compiling them in the off-season for about a month now.



Well I'm sold
And I put my money where my post is.
good job, guys.

[image loading]


Those of you on the fence about this, please give NASL another chance.
They seem more legit every season.

And $15.99 is a very good deal for this amount of content.


on the same note, are you going to ask ppl to ask for refunds if DRG is eliminated ?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
HolyExlxF
Profile Joined March 2011
United States256 Posts
August 31 2012 03:42 GMT
#258
Love the implementation of a decay system. Nice pioneering of SC2 tournament organization.
ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
August 31 2012 03:42 GMT
#259
On August 31 2012 12:33 BathTubNZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 12:26 Luepert wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:18 sam05396 wrote:
On August 31 2012 10:22 Luepert wrote:
On August 31 2012 10:19 Toganas wrote:
The decay makes sense as it will allow them to keep the system in the future without having results from the past influence it too heavily. At this point next year, Leenock's current MLG win will have no impact on his standings, but right now he has a lot of points from a recent tournament. People will always complain, but this seems like a good system.


The top 4 people will always have at lest 1 point right? So if they each lose 1 a day, they will still be in the same order.

assuming no tournaments are played for the next year and that all these players will get eliminated from nasl ur point would matter


I'm talking from a pure ranking system. No top pro would ever get to 0 and since they all have the same decay it will be like there is no decay at all.

So if they always take the top 4, it would never deviate from who the top 4 would be without decay.


Except you don't earn points at the same rate.


Exactly. The people who earn more points are still on top.
Example: MMA has 1000 points. DRG has 1050 points. 300 days pass, MMA has 700, DRG has 750. Same difference.
The only way they would switch places is if MMA were to win more than DRG. But if he did, he would pass DRG by the same amount in both systems.

God this is hard to explain, people can still pass each other, but at any moment in the future when they take the top 4, it will be the same 4 people that would be on top in a no decay system because they would have the same amount of decay as each other.
esports
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 31 2012 03:45 GMT
#260
So we know the top 4 now. But can the actual ranking leaderboard be seen anywhere? I seem to have missed it.

Also, are the other participants of the next season already announced?

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